"Moral responsibility" doesn't exist

 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Consider these scenarios:

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1: A three-year-old takes his fathers gun, loaded and unsecured, and kills a woman.

2: A twelve-year-old, who has suffered continuous emotional and physical abuse, intentionally takes his father's gun and kills a woman for teasing him.

3: A twenty-five year old, who had suffered continuous emotional and physical abuse, intentionally kills a woman for leaving him for another man.

4: A twenty-five year old, who was raised by wonderful parents, intentionally kills a woman "for the fun of it".

5: A twenty-five year old, who was raised by wonderful parents, intentionally kills a woman "just for the fun of it." A subsequent MRI scan shows a tumour on his prefrontal cortex.
Take a minute to determine the moral responsibility - or immorality - of each individual perpetrator. Yes, there is a correct answer.

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All five cases are equal in their lacking of moral responsibility.

Why is this? Moral responsibility rests on the notion of free will - or the idea that we are the author of our own thoughts and desires - which is an increasingly unlikely aspect of human behaviour. If, as seems most probable, free will doesn't exist then the concept of individual moral responsibility must necessarily go out of the window, and with it retributive justice.

In most of those cases, we intuitively understand that they aren't in fact "responsible" for themselves either as a result of their upbringing or some sort of affliction (such as the tumour). That is not to disallow us from making moral claims, or condemning immoral actions, but merely to shift the priority to a more social level.

Imagine being in a cage with a particularly violent bear who had previously mauled three other individuals he had come across. The bear is, obviously, dangerous and unfortunately victim to a moral deficit. The bear, again obviously, should probably be kept separate from other bears. Yet to call the bear, itself, "immoral" is patently ridiculous.

Of course, humans have a better understanding of social consequences than pretty much all other known species. To say that people shouldn't be held accountable is to be facetious with the idea (prisons could still be justified on the basis of deterrence) and its clear that people are capable of choice.

However, we return to the idea that people aren't actually the author of their own desires or thoughts. That isn't to claim all people are equally moral or that all people are equally dangerous/docile. The point here is, merely, that "moral responsibility", as we currently understand it, is potentially harmful.

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Whilst 1, 2, 3 and 5 are obvious in why they are not morally responsible for their actions, can you elaborate on why number 4 also fits the bill?


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
why number 4 also fits the bill?
Besides free will being a generally obsolete idea, the criminal in no.4 is most likely a psychopath (or somebody similarly antisocial).

There's no way he turned out in such a way without some sort of aberration of the brain. If such a person existed (I doubt you'd be hard-pressed to find one >.>) he'd probably be in exactly the same position as number 5, neurologically, without the tumour.


 
 
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why number 4 also fits the bill?
Besides free will being a generally obsolete idea, the criminal in no.4 is most likely a psychopath (or somebody similarly antisocial).

There's no way he turned out in such a way without some sort of aberration of the brain. If such a person existed (I doubt you'd be hard-pressed to find one >.>) he'd probably be in exactly the same position as number 5, neurologically, without the tumour.

Ah so there is more to it then <.<
I thought we had an anomaly as an example lol, someone with no discernable reason for their actions in the vein of the others. But it's just an unknown explanation then >.>

Very good.


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Erm... Isn't this literally the first conclusion any hard determinist ever reaches?!


 
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Erm... Isn't this literally the first conclusion any hard determinist ever reaches?!

Depends how inclined any determinist is to think about morality.


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I think you and almost anyone else would be surprised at just how similar our views on philosophy are.