Extreme Islam can't melt steel beams
There is no "one" answer to why terrorism happens over there.
Quote from: Luciana on December 12, 2015, 10:10:13 PMThere is no "one" answer to why terrorism happens over there.This is just as bad as the people who rhetorically claim it's entirely about foreign policy, or people hating us for our freedom or whatever. The fact that no single factor will ever be the only cause of Islamic extremism is a totally uninteresting and unenlightening observation to make; pretty much nobody would substantially argue against that. The question is to what extent do factors like foreign policy, culture, domestic issues etc. affect the prevalence of Islamic terrorism. The answer, at least for the first, is "not a lot".
Although in the end it really wouldn't make sense considering people like ISIS kill people of their own religion constantly, so that kinda defeats the purpose.
You can't tell me some random drone strike in Yemen that kills someone's family entire family one day when they're out on the market, wouldn't help contribute to it.
Answer this honestly-Did the 129 people dying in Paris make you upset? Did you become angry?I was furious, myself.
Quote from: Luciana on December 12, 2015, 10:21:04 PMYou can't tell me some random drone strike in Yemen that kills someone's family entire family one day when they're out on the market, wouldn't help contribute to it.Actually, I can. In Palestine, the effect of Palestinian deaths on support for Hamas is statistically insignificant, and the number of Palestinians supporting strikes against Israel has fallen dramatically since the Gaza War. And, at least in the case of Palestine, causality is strongly heading in the direction of Israeli casualties leading to Palestinian casualties, and not vice versa. In Yemen specifically, there has never been a year since 2009 in which civilian casualties outnumber and, with the exception of 2010, none of them have civilian deaths as high as 50pc of insurgent deaths.In Iraq, just 12pc of the 92,000 civilian deaths were caused by Coalition forces. To come onto drones specifically though, it seems they have the opposite effect to what you claim: being associated with decreases in the frequencies of terrorist attacks, specifically with decreases in IEDs and suicide bombings. Even unsuccessful drone strikes are associated with these effects, demonstrating a rather effective deterrent channel. Of course, I'm not saying it has no effect. . . It's just a fucking weak argument.
How many times do we have to have this thread?
Quote from: THE CURRENT YEAR on December 13, 2015, 08:53:34 AMHow many times do we have to have this thread?Until the pussies, relativists and masochists of the West understand it.
Quote from: THE CURRENT YEAR on December 13, 2015, 09:04:06 AMQuote from: Metty Christmas on December 13, 2015, 08:55:46 AMQuote from: THE CURRENT YEAR on December 13, 2015, 08:53:34 AMHow many times do we have to have this thread?Until the pussies, relativists and masochists of the West understand it.Pretty sure like 90% of the forum already agree with the OP.I don't know if you haven't been on here lately or what but it's fucking full of people here who blame everything but Islam.
Quote from: Metty Christmas on December 13, 2015, 08:55:46 AMQuote from: THE CURRENT YEAR on December 13, 2015, 08:53:34 AMHow many times do we have to have this thread?Until the pussies, relativists and masochists of the West understand it.Pretty sure like 90% of the forum already agree with the OP.
ITT: "Foreign invasions have had no effect on local militias rising to fight said foreign invaders"Seriously, do you people even listen to yourselves when you talk?
Actually, I can. In Palestine, the effect of Palestinian deaths on support for Hamas is statistically insignificant, and the number of Palestinians supporting strikes against Israel has fallen dramatically since the Gaza War. And, at least in the case of Palestine, causality is strongly heading in the direction of Israeli casualties leading to Palestinian casualties, and not vice versa. In Yemen specifically, there has never been a year since 2009 in which civilian casualties outnumber and, with the exception of 2010, none of them have civilian deaths as high as 50pc of insurgent deaths.In Iraq, just 12pc of the 92,000 civilian deaths were caused by Coalition forces. To come onto drones specifically though, it seems they have the opposite effect to what you claim: being associated with decreases in the frequencies of terrorist attacks, specifically with decreases in IEDs and suicide bombings. Even unsuccessful drone strikes are associated with these effects, demonstrating a rather effective deterrent channel. Of course, I'm not saying it has no effect. . . It's just a fucking weak argument.
Quote from: challengerX on December 13, 2015, 09:05:39 AMQuote from: THE CURRENT YEAR on December 13, 2015, 09:04:06 AMQuote from: Metty Christmas on December 13, 2015, 08:55:46 AMQuote from: THE CURRENT YEAR on December 13, 2015, 08:53:34 AMHow many times do we have to have this thread?Until the pussies, relativists and masochists of the West understand it.Pretty sure like 90% of the forum already agree with the OP.I don't know if you haven't been on here lately or what but it's fucking full of people here who blame everything but Islam.And on the flip side, it seems you're the one to blame everything on IslamBut really, must every thread you make now be about ISIS? This section of the website should be changed to "Muslims discussions" or something. It's all you guys talk about now. I miss the other stuff.
Quote from: Luciana on December 13, 2015, 10:49:40 AMQuote from: challengerX on December 13, 2015, 09:05:39 AMQuote from: THE CURRENT YEAR on December 13, 2015, 09:04:06 AMQuote from: Metty Christmas on December 13, 2015, 08:55:46 AMQuote from: THE CURRENT YEAR on December 13, 2015, 08:53:34 AMHow many times do we have to have this thread?Until the pussies, relativists and masochists of the West understand it.Pretty sure like 90% of the forum already agree with the OP.I don't know if you haven't been on here lately or what but it's fucking full of people here who blame everything but Islam.And on the flip side, it seems you're the one to blame everything on IslamBut really, must every thread you make now be about ISIS? This section of the website should be changed to "Muslims discussions" or something. It's all you guys talk about now. I miss the other stuff.It was exactly like this last year when all those ISIS beheading videos came out.
"Islamic extremism is created by the U.S."
