"If the father wants an abortion, he shouldn't have to pay child support"

 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Surely this is just fucking ludicrous? You don't get to turn your back on the responsibility you have for your child simply because--had it been up to you--you'd have had an abortion. That's ridiculous. You accept the risks of sex when you commit the act.


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I think the issue is that women have all the power in this matter. It's all dependent on whether she wants the child or not, the father gets very little say.

Do you want to keep the child? She can still abort it.
Do you to abort the child? She can still keep it, and you still have to pay.

Seems a little one sided, even if the baby is shoved up her cunt.
Last Edit: September 08, 2015, 12:01:59 PM by Simseoooooooooooooooooo👌


 
 
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PUT SOMETHING ON THE END OF IT YOU GOD DAMN DEGENERATES


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I think a father should reserve the right to sever all connections to the child just as a mother has the right to terminate the pregnancy.

But it should be treated just like an actual abortion, wherein the father has absolutely no business interfering with the child's upbringing. I think that's the point most people are referring to in regards to paternal child support.


 
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You accept the risks of sex when you commit the act.
Agreed.

I have no sympathy for the male whatsoever. Which gender is more likely to initiate sexual intercourse?

Yeah.


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You accept the risks of sex when you commit the act.
Agreed.

I have no sympathy for the male whatsoever. Which gender is more likely to initiate sexual intercourse?

Yeah.
Are you serious? How is that relevant?

You do realise the other person has to respond to initiation?
They're both equally responsible, that doesn't change because men tend to be hornier.


 
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Are you serious? How is that relevant?

You do realise the other person has to respond to initiation?
They're both equally responsible, that doesn't change because men tend to be hornier.
How.


 
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Are you serious? How is that relevant?

You do realise the other person has to respond to initiation?
They're both equally responsible, that doesn't change because men tend to be hornier.
How.

Ahem.

Statisticly shown that men have more days where they want to be sexually active than women. Women's percentage is much lower.

Key word.

If you're going to have sex both parties have to be into the whole deal. If a guy, even in a relationship status wants to have sex and the missus isn't into it on that day, it ain't happening. Both parties have to be into it for it to start.

The guy might be the initatior by nature but it's the missus that ultimately decides when it's time to let that rowdy calvary through the gates.


 
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If men tend to be "hornier" than women, it logically follows that men ought to be more responsible. I don't think think that's terribly unreasonable.


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If men tend to be "hornier" than women, it logically follows that men ought to be more responsible. I don't think think that's terribly unreasonable.
Why is being horny = responsibility?

It takes 2 to consent to it, not 1.
Last Edit: September 08, 2015, 12:08:00 PM by Simseoooooooooooooooooo👌


 
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If men tend to be "hornier" than women, it logically follows that men ought to be more responsible. I don't think think that's terribly unreasonable.
Why is being horny = responsibility?

It takes 2 to consent to it, not 1.
Because it takes a measure of discipline to control your sexual urges.


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If men tend to be "hornier" than women, it logically follows that men ought to be more responsible. I don't think think that's terribly unreasonable.
Why is being horny = responsibility?

It takes 2 to consent to it, not 1.
Because it takes a measure of discipline to control your sexual urges.
And?

The issue is that the woman still has to accept the offer for sex. The super horny male is still at the mercy of the woman. So they have sex as often as she wants, hence she is just as responsible as the male.


 
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This is some Tumblr tier shit
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So when is the "men are hornier than women" myth going to die?


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So when is the "men are hornier than women" myth going to die?
verb tends to be quite sexist with his stereotypes, it's unfortunate :\


 
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The issue is that the woman still has to accept the offer for sex. The super horny male is still at the mercy of the woman. So they have sex as often as she wants, hence she is just as responsible as the male.
I don't think I ever denied this. Being responsible and taking responsibility are two different things. My only point is that I'll tend to have less sympathy for the male in these types of situations. Call me a misandrist. I do kinda hate men a whole lot.


 
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So when is the "men are hornier than women" myth going to die?
It would have to be a myth first, PSU.
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The issue is that the woman still has to accept the offer for sex. The super horny male is still at the mercy of the woman. So they have sex as often as she wants, hence she is just as responsible as the male.
I don't think I ever denied this. Being responsible and taking responsibility are two different things. My only point is that I'll tend to have less sympathy for the male in these types of situations. Call me a misandrist. I do kinda hate men a whole lot.

You should learn to include women into the hate list verb. They're all sorts of another kind of douchebagery.

You can't be called racist or sexist if you hate everybody equally!


 
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You can't be called racist or sexist if you hate everybody equally!
I already do--I just hate everyone in their own special way.


 
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You can't be called racist or sexist if you hate everybody equally!
I already do--I just hate everyone in their own special way.

Ah. I see.

Going with the special snowflake approach.


 
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So when is the "men are hornier than women" myth going to die?
It would have to be a myth first, PSU.

Well it is because women are just as horny as men. However a combination of societal factors and a differently working sex drive pressure them to express it differently in most circumstances.

In fact, this stereotype use to be flipped back before the 1900's in western society. Evidence for this can be seen as far back as the ancient Greeks.


 
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However a combination of societal factors and a differently working sex drive pressure them to express it differently in most circumstances.
Thanks for making my counterargument for me.


 
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However a combination of societal factors and a differently working sex drive pressure them to express it differently in most circumstances.
Thanks for making my counterargument for me.

That doesn't make women less hornier than men.


 
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That doesn't make women less hornier than men.
I never used the term horny until Simse hijacked it in.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.


 
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That doesn't make women less hornier than men.
I never used the term horny until Simse hijacked it in.

So when is the "men are hornier than women" myth going to die?
It would have to be a myth first, PSU.

You flat out told me that men being hornier than women isn't a myth.


 
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So when is the "men are hornier than women" myth going to die?
It would have to be a myth first, PSU.
You flat out told me that men being hornier than women isn't a myth.
Because it's not. Do you know what a myth is?


 
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So when is the "men are hornier than women" myth going to die?
It would have to be a myth first, PSU.
You flat out told me that men being hornier than women isn't a myth.
Because it's not. Do you know what a myth is?

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myth
miTH/Submit
noun
noun: myth; plural noun: myths
1.
a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.
synonyms:   folk tale, folk story, legend, tale, story, fable, saga, mythos, lore, folklore, mythology
"ancient Greek myths"
traditional stories or legends collectively.
"the heroes of Greek myth"
2.
a widely held but false belief or idea.
"he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"
a misrepresentation of the truth.
"attacking the party's irresponsible myths about privatization"
a fictitious or imaginary person or thing.
an exaggerated or idealized conception of a person or thing.
"the book is a scholarly study of the Churchill myth"
synonyms:   misconception, fallacy, false notion, old wives' tale, fairy tale/story, fiction;

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When is the "men are hornier than women" [widely held, but false belief] going to die?