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When is the "men are hornier than women" [widely held, but false belief] going to die?
>dictionary definitions

Why not just say, "I'm talking about the common stupid person version of the term"?


 
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When is the "men are hornier than women" [widely held, but false belief] going to die?
>dictionary definitions

Why not just say, "I'm talking about the common stupid person version of the term"?



Are we really going to engage in this mental gymnastics filled song and dance damage control again?


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I wouldn't say it's a myth.

I'd say for a fact men, overall, are the Hornier sex.


 
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Are we really going to engage in this mental gymnastics filled song and dance damage control again?
I hate when people misuse basic terms. You know this.


 
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Are we really going to engage in this mental gymnastics filled song and dance damage control again?
I hate when people misuse basic terms. You know this.

But it wasn't misused.


 
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But it wasn't misused.
Yeah, according to a fucking dictionary. They're designed to be elastic to the common vernacular's malapropistic dumbfuckery. It's not an accurate source.

The more people misuse a term, the more accepted its new definition becomes, but that doesn't make it any less wrong.
Last Edit: September 08, 2015, 01:25:21 PM by Verbatim


 
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But it wasn't misused.
Yeah, according to a fucking dictionary. They're designed to be elastic to the common vernacular's malapropistic dumbfuckery. It's not an accurate source.

The more people misuse a term, the more accepted its new definition becomes, but that doesn't make it any less wrong.

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Are we really going to engage in this mental gymnastics filled song and dance damage control again?


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
If you didn't want the baby, you should've made sure to use proper contraception. I'm looking at all the guys who don't use condoms because they don't like the feeling or whatever.

Once the woman is carrying the baby, it's her decision.


 
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Are we really going to engage in this mental gymnastics filled song and dance damage control again?
If that's what you want to call it. If that makes you feel better about being wrong.

Explain to me why I should feel as sympathetic towards the male in these scenarios even though both parties, male and female, consented to the act, and are therefore both responsible? Why should I lend them both the same amount of sympathy? Why should I feel sorry for the poor dumbfuck male who just couldn't keep it in his pants, huh?


 
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I'll be honest—I don't even like to fuck with this subject, because there's really just no way to solve it. It's just fucked.

It's a lot easier for me to point fingers and blame it on the ones who are actively causing the most strife, and guess what?
It's fucking men who are causing the most shit.

Men with their innately competitive natures that tend to manifest themselves in extremely sexually charged ways. If less men were such goddamn poonhounds, this would be a non-issue.
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Explain to me why I should feel as sympathetic towards the male in these scenarios even though both parties, male and female, consented to the act, and are therefore both responsible? Why should I lend them both the same amount of sympathy? Why should I feel sorry for the poor dumbfuck male who just couldn't keep it in his pants, huh?

What does any of this have to do with women being just as horny as men?


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The dictionary isn't an accurate source of word definitions. -Verbatim 9/8/2015

There really isn't much else to discuss since you have no interest in having an honest conversation.


 
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What does any of this have to do with women being just as horny as men?
Nothing—I decided to shift the discussion to a more relevant talking point that actually pertains to the thread's subject, Mr. Admin. I'm just trying to stay on-topic, Mr. Admin.
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There really isn't much else to discuss since you have no interest in having an honest conversation.
Dictionaries are guides. They don't describe words—they describe vernacular, as I have explained. It's silly to act like they're law. All you had to say was, "Well, I'm talking about the commoner's definition of a myth," and I would have been like, "Yeah, of course you are, you dumb pleb." And then we could've moved on.


 
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If you didn't want the baby, you should've made sure to use proper contraception. I'm looking at all the guys who don't use condoms because they don't like the feeling or whatever.

Once the woman is carrying the baby, it's her decision.
Yeah, the condom thing is another good point, too. I mean, yeah, women can take birth control, too, but it's a lot cheaper and easier to just use condoms, if you're going to have sex at all. Which, of course, is on the guy.

It's not terribly difficult to contrive the notion that the guys are typically the scumbags. I don't deny that a lot of women are skanky cunts who just want to fuck everyone and everything, but here's another thing—the guy can simply ask whether she's down with abortion. And if she isn't, STAY THE FUCK AWAY. That's on the guy.


 
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What does any of this have to do with women being just as horny as men?
Nothing—I decided to shift the discussion to a more relevant talking point that actually pertains to the thread's subject, Mr. Admin. I'm just trying to stay on-topic, Mr. Admin.

Considering that "men are hornier than women" was something being used in this thread to justify peoples views and arguments it is on topic. Or are we not allowed to engage in a discussion concerning other peoples opinions on the topic at hand?

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There really isn't much else to discuss since you have no interest in having an honest conversation.
Dictionaries are guides. They don't describe words—they describe vernacular, as I have explained. It's silly to act like they're law. All you had to say was, "Well, I'm talking about the commoner's definition of a myth," and I would have been like, "Yeah, of course you are, you dumb pleb." And then we could've moved on.

Verb, I'm going to say this as nicely as possible.

No one really cares about your made up definitions. If you want to discuss things with people in the real world you're going to have to be grounded in reality.


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If men tend to be "hornier" than women, it logically follows that men ought to be more responsible.
No it doesn't? The only thing that that establishes is that men are more willing to be more responsible than woman.
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Considering that "men are hornier than women" was something being used in this thread to justify peoples views
But not my view. I have no interest in talking about views that neither you nor I share, if what we're doing is arguing. No—you present your argument, I present mine. Whatever other viewpoint there is, I'm not really interested in that right now. It's irrelevant.

I'm saying, no, I don't think men are hornier than women, or vice-versa. That was Simse's dumbfuck interpretation of my post. All I said was that, generally speaking, men are societally conditioned, as you pointed out, to be more... I don't know, forthright with their desires than women are. You're saying...

I don't even know what the fuck you're saying. You're just asshurt for not knowing what a myth is.

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No one really cares about your made up definitions. If you want to discuss things with people in the real world you're going to have to be grounded in reality.
I'm going to say this as nicely as possible:

It's not a made-up definition, you stupid fuck.
The very definition you copy/pasted contained the real definition of the fucking word. The first. One. Listed.

YOU were applying the SECOND definition. A myth is a fucking story that is passed down from generation to generation and has some kind of collective historical significance. That's what a fucking myth is. I didn't take a whole fucking mythology course just to be told by some fuckhead on the Internet that that definition is actually made up. Cunt.


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Also. Just because the woman says she's on the pill, using condoms is still the smart thing to do.


 
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If men tend to be "hornier" than women, it logically follows that men ought to be more responsible.
No it doesn't? The only thing that that establishes is that men are more willing to be more responsible than woman.
Yeah, that's why the overwhelming majority of all rapists are men. Because they're willing to be more responsible.

What the fuck are you talking about?


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I don't understand the "sexual contract" perspective. If both parties agree that in the event of accidental pregnancy that abortion would happen there would be an abortion, should not the father be exempt from the contract once the abortion does not take place and thus his terms for the contract have been breached?


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If men tend to be "hornier" than women, it logically follows that men ought to be more responsible.
No it doesn't? The only thing that that establishes is that men are more willing to be more responsible than woman.
Yeah, that's why the overwhelming majority of all rapists are men. Because they're willing to be more responsible.

What the fuck are you talking about?
What the fuck are you talking about. You haven't given any reasoning as to why men having greater desire for sex creates an obligation for them to have greater responsibility. Nothing about wanting something more means you have to sacrifice more.


 
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What the fuck are you talking about. You haven't given any reasoning as to why men having greater desire for sex creates an obligation for them to have greater responsibility. Nothing about wanting something more means you have to sacrifice more.
Uh, yeah, it does. If the thing you want is something as dangerous and as stupid as sex. It ABSOLUTELY does.


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What the fuck are you talking about. You haven't given any reasoning as to why men having greater desire for sex creates an obligation for them to have greater responsibility. Nothing about wanting something more means you have to sacrifice more.
Uh, yeah, it does. If the thing you want is something as dangerous and as stupid as sex. It ABSOLUTELY does.
Uh no it does not. Sex requires responsibility because it can give rise to new life and STD's, etc. Women who have sex contribute to these acts and are thus equally responsible for the risks.

If a man and a woman have sex and take those risks, why does the male having a greater desire for sex create greater obligations for him? The only reason it would is because the man chooses to take on greater obligations because to him sex is more valuable. There is no requirement he take on more burden than the woman.
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What the fuck are you talking about. You haven't given any reasoning as to why men having greater desire for sex creates an obligation for them to have greater responsibility. Nothing about wanting something more means you have to sacrifice more.
Uh, yeah, it does.
You can't just keep saying "it does", you have to substantiate your claim.


 
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Verb pls

If you had no desire to discuss it then why did you engage in conversation with me?

You were proven wrong and now you're flip flopping and pretending that words can only have one definition. There's no need to get salty over this and make the thread head in a bad direction.


 
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The only reason it would is because the man chooses to take on greater obligations because to him sex is more valuable.
Exactly. And he's a stupid motherfucker for thinking sex is more valuable—that's my point.

So, you're not disagreeing with me at all, and you're either too stupid to realize that, or... I don't even know what's happening.
You can't just keep saying "it does", you have to substantiate your claim.
You can't just cut out the part where I substantiated my claim and then say that I failed to substantiate my claim. That's called being a shithead.


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The only reason it would is because the man chooses to take on greater obligations because to him sex is more valuable.
Exactly. And he's a stupid motherfucker for thinking sex is more valuable—that's my point.

So, you're not disagreeing with me at all, and you're either too stupid to realize that, or... I don't even know what's happening.
You can't just keep saying "it does", you have to substantiate your claim.
You can't just cut out the part where I substantiated my claim and then say that I failed to substantiate my claim. That's called being a shithead.
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If the thing you want is something as dangerous and as stupid as sex. It ABSOLUTELY does.
Except this doesn't substantiate your claim. Sex and procreation means both parties are equally responsible for the results. Just because the dude really wanted to fuck and the girl was just "meh" doesn't mean he is more responsible for the resulting pregnancy/child than she is.


 
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An estranged parent should be able to self-terminate any and all parental rights in exchange for not paying support, be they father or mother.


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The only reason it would is because the man chooses to take on greater obligations because to him sex is more valuable.
Exactly. And he's a stupid motherfucker for thinking sex is more valuable—that's my point.
I thought "ought to" implied there was obligation, sorry.