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1. Explain to me why you shouldn't use it, ever. I know he's not forced to use it. And I doubt anybody is forcing him. It's a choice.
Because it's a fucking retarded choice. I shouldn't have to explain why mind-altering drugs are fucking idiotic.
They alter your mind.

That's about as stupid as you can fucking get.

Oh boy, here comes some dumbass fucking video game comparison.
"But Verb! Video games alter the mind, too!! Doesn't that make you a hypocrite, Verb??"

No, fuck you. Video games don't alter your fucking mind. Not in the same way that drugs do.
Ah, now I see where your thick headedness stems from. You find that the act of altering your mind in any way is a bad thing. Did you know that physical exercise is mind-altering? Yes, in the same way that drugs are! No way!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22486393/


 
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1. Explain to me why you shouldn't use it, ever. I know he's not forced to use it. And I doubt anybody is forcing him. It's a choice.
Because it's a fucking retarded choice. I shouldn't have to explain why mind-altering drugs are fucking idiotic.
They alter your mind.

That's about as stupid as you can fucking get.

Oh boy, here comes some dumbass fucking video game comparison.
"But Verb! Video games alter the mind, too!! Doesn't that make you a hypocrite, Verb??"

No, fuck you. Video games don't alter your fucking mind. Not in the same way that drugs do.
Ah, now I see where your thick headedness stems from. You find that the act of altering your mind in any way is a bad thing. Did you know that physical exercise is mind-altering? Yes, in the same way that drugs are! No way!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22486393/

I think he meant in the manner of artificially. Or an alteration that otherwise wouldn't occur normally outside of normal human functions.

Everything we do is mind altering, obviously. But some mind alterations can only happen when exposed to things that aren't otherwise natural occurrences in our anatomy.


 
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But how about we discuss addiction? Because that exists in the video game world.
I'm not addicted to video games, so no, I have absolutely no desire to discuss that.

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You're aware that you're using the internet now right?
I would really appreciate it if you would stop asking these patronizing questions.

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You probably have a cell phone too.
Nope. Fuck cell phones.

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But you won't. Because you like using them to a degree. Logically speaking, it's pretty damn stupid to damage yourself now isn't it? And there it is. Choice.
The pros of the Internet FAR outweigh any minute chance of radiation poisoning or whatever the fuck it is you were going on about.

The pros of smoking pot don't outweigh the cons. Unless you're stupid, of course, and you're unable to realize that altering your mind to such an extent isn't a good idea.


 
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Yes, in the same way that drugs are!
Nope. NOT in the same way that drugs are.

Either way, you don't exercise to get high, and if you do, you're an idiot.
You exercise to get fit/healthy.

You do drugs to get high. You do drugs SPECIFICALLY to alter your mind.
THAT'S fucking retarded.
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ey yo verb, do you consider the mind altering drug caffeine on the same caliber as marijuana?
No. I still think consuming caffeine is stupid, but relatively speaking, caffeine isn't anywhere near as potent as marijuana.


so are you against the concept of altering your mind more so than the individual effects of Psychoactive foods/drugs?


 
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so are you against the concept of altering your mind more so than the individual effects of Psychoactive foods/drugs?
Uh, sure.


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so are you against the concept of altering your mind more so than the individual effects of Psychoactive foods/drugs?
Uh, sure.

these next batch of questions may seem weird...

how many soda cans would you say you drink in a day?


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Well guys the truth is if you do anything to enhance your enjoyment of life you're pretty much a loathsome, petty, low-tiered ingrate that doesn't know how to love life in it's singular, stale state. Play video games to have fun? Fuck you, you should know how to have fun without 'em. Go outdoors for some hiking and to enjoy the scenery? Fuck you, you shouldn't need that to make you happy. Like to listen to music and let it run with your imagination? Lazy fuck, why do you need music for anything? If you require any external sources to enhance your happiness of life you should probably just fuck off and kill yourself, because you're clearly not good enough to enjoy life straight as it is.


 
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But how about we discuss addiction? Because that exists in the video game world.
I'm not addicted to video games, so no, I have absolutely no desire to discuss that.

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You're aware that you're using the internet now right?
I would really appreciate it if you would stop asking these patronizing questions.

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You probably have a cell phone too.
Nope. Fuck cell phones.

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But you won't. Because you like using them to a degree. Logically speaking, it's pretty damn stupid to damage yourself now isn't it? And there it is. Choice.
The pros of the Internet FAR outweigh any minute chance of radiation poisoning or whatever the fuck it is you were going on about.

The pros of smoking pot don't outweigh the cons. Unless you're stupid, of course, and you're unable to realize that altering your mind to such an extent isn't a good idea.

I can start discussing just how much the radiation exposure effects you. Because there are a major fuck ton of verified studies that show all the wonderful avenues of damage it does to people and their systems. It's not mere simple radiation poisoning.

And I wouldn't drag the whole dodgy "end justifies the means" cop out of "the pros outweigh the cons." What exactly do you gain from the internet that you can't do through another means?

Because everything you do get from the internet can be done through another means without using the internet.

Unless, you specifically use it because it makes things simpler and easier to access which is fair. But ring that by. Using something because it's easier despite the damage done to yourself. That's almost a carbon copy of what you're arguing against. Smoking pot because it's far easier to be happy that way than doing it normally.

And again, you are right, it's not quite comparable scale wise in terms of damage. Smoking versus gradual radiation damage breakdown. But if you're going to preach in absolutes here, well, don't bother because you're essentially doing the exact same thing he is, just in a slightly different context.


 
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But, I'm not gonna poke a stick at you here any further because I do agree on the stance. Personally, I don't see the need to ever do it. But, my perspective isn't the only one. And just because somebody goes up against my perspective doesn't mean that they have to be completely invalid automatically.

That's narrow headed and open to trouble. You don't need to antagonize people so hard over mere points of perspective. Especially when 90% of the conversations held here in this site's lifetime will never amount to anything.

These are just mere conversations. And of course, naturally, took me fucking long enough to get my fucking marbles in gear here. My original point to be made was this.

You've got a viewpoint. The other guy has a viewpoint. No need to get harsh. Especially over text. Defending or advocating your ideals with venom is a piss poor way of making your ideals seem remotely welcoming.

I apologize for the off the rails conversation here.

I'll be up front and say that I have no idea what I was originally trying to communicate here before it got all.....messy and jumbled. Either way I did a piss poor job. Sorry Verb.
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how many soda cans would you say you drink in a day?
0.

Haven't drunk soda in years.


 
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how many soda cans would you say you drink in a day?
0.

Haven't drunk soda in years.
I drank one just now
LOOK AT THIS BITCH ASS NIGGUH


 
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cannabis enhances this experience for me and makes it much more enjoyable.
It shouldn't. The fact that it does is pathetic. The fact that you need it just to enhance an experience that you enjoy is fucking loathsome.

It was a dumbfuck piece of shit post that deserved nothing more than complete dismissal.
Are people who are prescribed antidepressants pathetic?


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Yes, in the same way that drugs are!
Nope. NOT in the same way that drugs are.

Either way, you don't exercise to get high, and if you do, you're an idiot.
You exercise to get fit/healthy.

You do drugs to get high. You do drugs SPECIFICALLY to alter your mind.
THAT'S fucking retarded.
People aren't going to think about the "high" you get from exercise as being the same thing as the high you get from a drug, but they're more alike than you think. Once you start exercising and you experience that endorphin high, that part hooks people into wanting more. It's a pleasurable experience that people become addicted to.

And I'm still waiting for some concrete evidence that suggests altering one's mind through cannabis causes any significant long-term damage to adults. Because as it stands now, no such evidence exists(largely because of how the drug is scheduled in the Controlled Substances Act, making research difficult), so your entire argument is based off of your own preachings while sitting atop your high horse.


 
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Are people who are prescribed antidepressants pathetic?
No. Unless you abuse your prescription to get high.

Then you're the lowest of the low, as far as I'm concerned.


 
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Once you start exercising and you experience that endorphin high, that part hooks people into wanting more. It's a pleasurable experience that people become addicted to.
I must be immune, because after exercising, I've never ever wanted to do it again.
I've never experienced pleasure while exercising. It's a fucking chore.
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And I'm still waiting for some concrete evidence that suggests altering one's mind through cannabis causes any significant long-term damage to adults.
I've never said there is any, because I don't care. Altering your mind is still buttfuck retarded.
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I've never experienced pleasure while exercising.
Who the fuck does?


 
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I've never experienced pleasure while exercising.
Who the fuck does?
Arnold Schwarzenegger?

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Are people who are prescribed antidepressants pathetic?
No. Unless you abuse your prescription to get high.

Then you're the lowest of the low, as far as I'm concerned.
But antidepressants are mind altering drugs. How could they possibly be acceptable?


 
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But antidepressants are mind altering drugs. How could they possibly be acceptable?
Because you're hopefully not using them for that purpose.

I would never use a drug like that, either.

If an antidepressant changes who I am, even temporarily, then fuck antidepressants.
FUCK them.

But obviously, people are going to feel different than me. People aren't going to want to maintain their depression (and it's not even that I want to maintain my depression--I just fucking hate drugs with every fiber of my being). Other people are going to want to take that drug to alleviate their problems, and I say to that, whatever.

But if you're doing it for the sole purpose of getting high... I mean, I can't think of a more scummy, pathetic excuse for a human being. And that goes for alcohol, too. If you drink your sorrows away, you're amongst the biggest pieces of shit on the planet. Congratulations.


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I've never experienced pleasure while exercising.
Who the fuck does?
I find weight lifting to be an extremely pleasurable activity, as do many others


 
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I've never experienced pleasure while exercising.
Who the fuck does?
I find weight lifting to be an extremely pleasurable activity, as do many others
But you don't do it for that express purpose. And at least you're actually getting something done.

Smoking pot does nothing productive at all, on top of fucking with the most important organ in your body.
How intelligent.


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I've never experienced pleasure while exercising.
Who the fuck does?
I find weight lifting to be an extremely pleasurable activity, as do many others
But you don't do it for that express purpose. And at least you're actually getting something done.

Smoking pot does nothing productive at all, on top of fucking with the most important organ in your body.
How intelligent.

It helps some artists or writers to think and get a little more creative.


 
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It helps some artists or writers to think and get a little more creative.
Then they're shitty artists and writers.

Being able to write something great while sober is far more impressive than using drugs as a crutch.
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It helps some artists or writers to think and get a little more creative.
Then they're shitty artists and writers.

Being able to write something great while sober is far more impressive than using drugs as a crutch.

Why?


 
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Why?
Because you're not using a crutch. You're doing it with your own natural wit alone.

You, by yourself. No help whatsoever.


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Why is using a crutch a bad thing?

Yeah not using a crutch is more impressive but using one isn't bad at all.
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Why is using a crutch a bad thing?

Yeah not using a crutch is more impressive but using one isn't bad at all.
If something is less impressive, it's worse. You shouldn't want to be worse--you should want to be better.