I kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 08:46:57 PMQuote from: A E S T H E T I C S on September 21, 2015, 08:44:10 PMOkay, but that's still not a viable justification to not make it significantly more problematic for 'dumbfuck' teenagers to endeavour in their dumbfuck activities.Again--I'm not arguing against it. Really, I'm just making fun of the fact that you're under the impression that age restrictions, as ineffective as they are, are some great solution. Enough to adulate them in your first post in this thread.Where exactly did you get the impression I did?Once again, looking too much into other people's posts as usual.
Quote from: A E S T H E T I C S on September 21, 2015, 08:44:10 PMOkay, but that's still not a viable justification to not make it significantly more problematic for 'dumbfuck' teenagers to endeavour in their dumbfuck activities.Again--I'm not arguing against it. Really, I'm just making fun of the fact that you're under the impression that age restrictions, as ineffective as they are, are some great solution. Enough to adulate them in your first post in this thread.
Okay, but that's still not a viable justification to not make it significantly more problematic for 'dumbfuck' teenagers to endeavour in their dumbfuck activities.
And that's why we have minimum age requirements.
The OP is about teenagers simply being teenagers, and his conflation with that of responsible adults. I'm simply illustrating why we have sensible laws in place to make it difficult for these 'dumbfuck' teenagers to engage in egregious behaviour.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.
What I observed in high school was people continued down the same path they were on before smoking. There were the people who were responsible and consistent who kept that up after they started smoking and still got good grades and went to college. Then there was the class clowns who just let weed control them, blowing off friends and lying just to smoke. They were gonna be losers before weed.
Quote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.Now resurrected in bastard form as vaping no doubt.
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:15:01 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.Now resurrected in bastard form as vaping no doubt.Vaping doesn't use tobacco though, fam. Only nicotine, and that's to ween a smoker off of it.
Quote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:40:31 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:15:01 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.Now resurrected in bastard form as vaping no doubt.Vaping doesn't use tobacco though, fam. Only nicotine, and that's to ween a smoker off of it.Gotta start somewhere I guess. I never really did buy into that whole weening off to quit thing though.All the people who I've ever seen set themselves up to ween themselves off have failed. Little bit of psychology in there. They set their own barriers from the get go and fail because of it. It's just mental trickery with themselves. The only people who I've ever seen quit smoking did it cold and hard. My bad. Ramblings. Anyway. Whatever gets those folks through I guess. We might eventually drag our way to some semblance of a functioning society.Neat.
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:45:04 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:40:31 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:15:01 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.Now resurrected in bastard form as vaping no doubt.Vaping doesn't use tobacco though, fam. Only nicotine, and that's to ween a smoker off of it.Gotta start somewhere I guess. I never really did buy into that whole weening off to quit thing though.All the people who I've ever seen set themselves up to ween themselves off have failed. Little bit of psychology in there. They set their own barriers from the get go and fail because of it. It's just mental trickery with themselves. The only people who I've ever seen quit smoking did it cold and hard. My bad. Ramblings. Anyway. Whatever gets those folks through I guess. We might eventually drag our way to some semblance of a functioning society.Neat.Except vaping actually works because a bigger cloud = more nicotine at once, even though the doses are smaller. Over time you can drop from 15mg to 10mg, 10mg to 5mg, and so on until you're free of it. It's not the same as weening off of cigarettes where you get the same amount of nicotine in every hit (unless you constantly switch brands).
Quote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:54:45 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:45:04 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:40:31 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:15:01 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.Now resurrected in bastard form as vaping no doubt.Vaping doesn't use tobacco though, fam. Only nicotine, and that's to ween a smoker off of it.Gotta start somewhere I guess. I never really did buy into that whole weening off to quit thing though.All the people who I've ever seen set themselves up to ween themselves off have failed. Little bit of psychology in there. They set their own barriers from the get go and fail because of it. It's just mental trickery with themselves. The only people who I've ever seen quit smoking did it cold and hard. My bad. Ramblings. Anyway. Whatever gets those folks through I guess. We might eventually drag our way to some semblance of a functioning society.Neat.Except vaping actually works because a bigger cloud = more nicotine at once, even though the doses are smaller. Over time you can drop from 15mg to 10mg, 10mg to 5mg, and so on until you're free of it. It's not the same as weening off of cigarettes where you get the same amount of nicotine in every hit (unless you constantly switch brands).Interesting. Although once more, folks as always seem to find a way to bugger shit up. Some people don't use vaping to quit, I assume you're aware?
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:56:24 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:54:45 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:45:04 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:40:31 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:15:01 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.Now resurrected in bastard form as vaping no doubt.Vaping doesn't use tobacco though, fam. Only nicotine, and that's to ween a smoker off of it.Gotta start somewhere I guess. I never really did buy into that whole weening off to quit thing though.All the people who I've ever seen set themselves up to ween themselves off have failed. Little bit of psychology in there. They set their own barriers from the get go and fail because of it. It's just mental trickery with themselves. The only people who I've ever seen quit smoking did it cold and hard. My bad. Ramblings. Anyway. Whatever gets those folks through I guess. We might eventually drag our way to some semblance of a functioning society.Neat.Except vaping actually works because a bigger cloud = more nicotine at once, even though the doses are smaller. Over time you can drop from 15mg to 10mg, 10mg to 5mg, and so on until you're free of it. It's not the same as weening off of cigarettes where you get the same amount of nicotine in every hit (unless you constantly switch brands).Interesting. Although once more, folks as always seem to find a way to bugger shit up. Some people don't use vaping to quit, I assume you're aware?Well yeah. In which case, it's a safe hobby that also costs hundreds of dollars to do.
Quote from: Prime Uta on September 22, 2015, 12:01:19 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:56:24 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:54:45 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:45:04 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:40:31 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:15:01 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.Now resurrected in bastard form as vaping no doubt.Vaping doesn't use tobacco though, fam. Only nicotine, and that's to ween a smoker off of it.Gotta start somewhere I guess. I never really did buy into that whole weening off to quit thing though.All the people who I've ever seen set themselves up to ween themselves off have failed. Little bit of psychology in there. They set their own barriers from the get go and fail because of it. It's just mental trickery with themselves. The only people who I've ever seen quit smoking did it cold and hard. My bad. Ramblings. Anyway. Whatever gets those folks through I guess. We might eventually drag our way to some semblance of a functioning society.Neat.Except vaping actually works because a bigger cloud = more nicotine at once, even though the doses are smaller. Over time you can drop from 15mg to 10mg, 10mg to 5mg, and so on until you're free of it. It's not the same as weening off of cigarettes where you get the same amount of nicotine in every hit (unless you constantly switch brands).Interesting. Although once more, folks as always seem to find a way to bugger shit up. Some people don't use vaping to quit, I assume you're aware?Well yeah. In which case, it's a safe hobby that also costs hundreds of dollars to do.Hmm. Well, people find a way I guess. No more expensive than smoking or any other form of drugs I'd wager. I don't think Nicotine is exactly the best for the human body though, no?
Quote from: Sandtrap on September 22, 2015, 12:05:05 AMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 22, 2015, 12:01:19 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:56:24 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:54:45 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:45:04 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:40:31 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 11:15:01 PMQuote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 11:12:20 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on September 21, 2015, 10:31:15 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on September 21, 2015, 09:13:44 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 21, 2015, 09:11:57 PMI kinda feel like legalization would totally burn out contemporary weed culture in a few years or so.I kinda get that feeling, too, actually.But I dunno. There's still "alcohol culture". We don't normally think of it like that, but it's there.Alcohol culture is a much older, deeply ingrained aspect to western society though, isn't it? That one's a little bit harder to curb.I dunno, the tobacco market (which is older than the USA) has been a thing since the 17th century and smoking is on the decline.Now resurrected in bastard form as vaping no doubt.Vaping doesn't use tobacco though, fam. Only nicotine, and that's to ween a smoker off of it.Gotta start somewhere I guess. I never really did buy into that whole weening off to quit thing though.All the people who I've ever seen set themselves up to ween themselves off have failed. Little bit of psychology in there. They set their own barriers from the get go and fail because of it. It's just mental trickery with themselves. The only people who I've ever seen quit smoking did it cold and hard. My bad. Ramblings. Anyway. Whatever gets those folks through I guess. We might eventually drag our way to some semblance of a functioning society.Neat.Except vaping actually works because a bigger cloud = more nicotine at once, even though the doses are smaller. Over time you can drop from 15mg to 10mg, 10mg to 5mg, and so on until you're free of it. It's not the same as weening off of cigarettes where you get the same amount of nicotine in every hit (unless you constantly switch brands).Interesting. Although once more, folks as always seem to find a way to bugger shit up. Some people don't use vaping to quit, I assume you're aware?Well yeah. In which case, it's a safe hobby that also costs hundreds of dollars to do.Hmm. Well, people find a way I guess. No more expensive than smoking or any other form of drugs I'd wager. I don't think Nicotine is exactly the best for the human body though, no?People who vape for recreation use nicotine-free juice, just like ex-smokers eventually do.It costs around $150 for a "good" vape, and $10 for 15g bottles of juice. The former is an initial cost, the latter is a constant cost.
Quote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 04:04:43 PMThere is nothing wrong with occasional consumptionWouldn't even say that.I mean, good for your friend. But no, it's never okay. Ever.
There is nothing wrong with occasional consumption
If you smoke pot, you should be shot 30,000 times in the head, to be honest.
This is serious and we're trying to have a serious discussion. Could you please tone down the immaturity?
Quote from: aDUMBgenius on September 22, 2015, 01:50:07 AMThis is serious and we're trying to have a serious discussion. Could you please tone down the immaturity?Right, sorry.100 trillion times.