information shouldn't be banned merely because it was contained in a PM

 
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it's the information itself that should be subjectively allowed or disallowed, and it shouldn't matter if it came from a private message or a skype chat

a blanket "you can never share any information you get via PM" rule is retarded, and it should only apply to sensitive information that the sender has explicitly forbade you from sharing
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if the PMer wanted it shared, he wouldn't have sent it as a PM

not hard


 
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if the PMer wanted it shared, he wouldn't have sent it as a PM

not hard


yeah man I totally should have made an entire public thread about this

that wouldn't get locked for spam, and I wouldn't have been told to take it to PMs

face it, not every PM is some deeply secret thing that can never be shared with the rest of the world


 
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yeah man I totally should have made an entire public thread about this

that wouldn't get locked for spam, and I wouldn't have been told to take it to PMs
no

it wouldn't have

threads like this are literally made ALL the time

face it, not every PM is some deeply secret thing that can never be shared with the rest of the world
it doesn't matter how implicating the information is

if you send a private message, it's implied that you want it to be kept private

hence the name

private

message
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yeah man I totally should have made an entire public thread about this

that wouldn't get locked for spam, and I wouldn't have been told to take it to PMs
no

it wouldn't have

threads like this are literally made ALL the time
face it, not every PM is some deeply secret thing that can never be shared with the rest of the world
it doesn't matter how implicating the information is

if you send a private message, it's implied that you want it to be kept private

hence the name

private

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yes

it would have

and yes, the severity of the content definitely matters. If someone PMd me "what's your favorite color", and then told someone else that color in some thread, they would have to be punished by the current rule system

that's straight up retarded


 
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yes

it would have
nope

people make threads asking specific users specific questions ALL the time

like, every single day

no one gives a fuck

threads like this are literally made ALL the time
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and yes, the severity of the content definitely matters. If someone PMd me "what's your favorite color", and then told someone else that color in some thread, they would have to be punished by the current rule system

that's straight up retarded
how is that retarded

it's retarded to care about your privacy, yes, but private messages are private messages
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yes

it would have
nope

people make threads asking specific users specific questions ALL the time

like, every single day

no one gives a fuck

threads like this are literally made ALL the time
Except they're literally not

and if they are, that's even worse

the whole point of PMs are to clear up small little shit that doesn't warrant an entire thread

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and yes, the severity of the content definitely matters. If someone PMd me "what's your favorite color", and then told someone else that color in some thread, they would have to be punished by the current rule system

that's straight up retarded
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how is that retarded
Because it's trite and meaningless. The whole concept of "well if it's in a PM, it means that no one wants this big secret to get out" is just wrong. Believe it or not, not everyone uses the PM system to keep shit from people. If it's a blatant secret, a big personal discussion, that's obviously an entirely different thing.


 
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not to mention the fact that I broke the big bad "no sharing information in PMs" rule with the mere title of this thread and nothing has been done

it's almost like it's a retarded, arbitrary rule


 
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Except they're literally not

and if they are, that's even worse

the whole point of PMs are to clear up small little shit that doesn't warrant an entire thread
actually, the point of PMs is to discuss private matters that you'd rather not be shared with anyone else

and that's why you should be banned for sharing them, unless you have permission

you can assume that someone won't care if you share their favorite color on the mains--you can ASSUME that, and you'd probably be right, but if they DO care, then you're going to get banned, and you'd deserve it
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Because it's trite and meaningless.
that's not for you to decide

to YOU it might seem trite and meaningless, but someone's favorite color could have a deep, personal meaning to them, and you have no technical right to share it with anyone else without their permission, if you are told about it in private

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it sounds retarded, but that's just because it is

people are irrational as fuck when it comes to their personal matters--but that doesn't give you the right to violate their rights

welcome to humanity


 
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you can assume that someone won't care if you share their favorite color on the mains--you can ASSUME that, and you'd probably be right, but if they DO care, then you're going to get banned, and you'd deserve it
and I can correctly assume that turkey wouldn't give a shit about me telling people this trite and meaningless fact about his avatar

but guess what - I got banned anyway

so that's wrong


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you can assume that someone won't care if you share their favorite color on the mains--you can ASSUME that, and you'd probably be right, but if they DO care, then you're going to get banned, and you'd deserve it
and I can correctly assume that turkey wouldn't give a shit about me telling people this trite and meaningless fact about his avatar

but guess what - I got banned anyway

so that's wrong
you didn't get banned, you dumb fuck
you got warned

turkey has not confirmed whether or not he gives a fuck--and if he has, then you should've said something


 
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also, you were basically inciting other members to post PMs illicitly

which is bannable in itself


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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you can assume that someone won't care if you share their favorite color on the mains--you can ASSUME that, and you'd probably be right, but if they DO care, then you're going to get banned, and you'd deserve it
and I can correctly assume that turkey wouldn't give a shit about me telling people this trite and meaningless fact about his avatar

but guess what - I got banned anyway

so that's wrong
you didn't get banned, you dumb fuck
you got warned

turkey has not confirmed whether or not he gives a fuck--and if he has, then you should've said something
No, there are no warnings on this site. There are bans and customization bans. The whole point of a warning is that it's a precursor to privileges being revoked or punishment being inflicted. If the warning is the punishment, it's not a warning.


 
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No, there are no warnings on this site. There are bans and customization bans. The whole point of a warning is that it's a precursor to privileges being revoked or punishment being inflicted. If the warning is the punishment, it's not a warning.
wow all of this is wrong

you don't understand this website at all


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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also, you were basically inciting other members to post PMs illicitly

which is bannable in itself
not really

no different than when I make "no rules threads" that are obviously still under the rules

if someone thinks it's legit that's on them

So this is tonight's argument. . . probs gonna find another forum to lurk.
yeah this is bad drama

go stir up some actual exciting shit please


 
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No, there are no warnings on this site. There are bans and customization bans. The whole point of a warning is that it's a precursor to privileges being revoked or punishment being inflicted. If the warning is the punishment, it's not a warning.
wow all of this is wrong

you don't understand this website at all
Except it's all right. A warning, by definition, can't have any actual punishment attached to it.

Did you miss the many threads I made bitching about this when it was changed to a customization ban?


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
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yeah this is bad drama

go stir up some actual exciting shit please
Why would I do something that isn't in my nature to do? smh.
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not really

no different than when I make "no rules threads" that are obviously still under the rules

if someone thinks it's legit that's on them
those threads are obviously satirical in nature and no one takes them seriously

you actually posted a real PM in the PM thread


 
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A warning, by definition, can't have any actual punishment attached to it.
and no punishment was issued


 
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not really

no different than when I make "no rules threads" that are obviously still under the rules

if someone thinks it's legit that's on them
those threads are obviously satirical in nature and no one takes them seriously

you actually posted a real PM in the PM thread
a really mundane PM that the sender would have no problem with being public

A warning, by definition, can't have any actual punishment attached to it.
and no punishment was issued
there's a reason I switched my avatar to purple shirt winona

my nameplate is no longer greyscale


 
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not to mention the fact that I broke the big bad "no sharing information in PMs" rule with the mere title of this thread and nothing has been done

it's almost like it's a retarded, arbitrary rule
also the best point I've made here is ignored

there's no reason the OP shouldn't be edited out by a mod here if keeping this huge secret is so precious