I like video communities when it's not about fueling entertainment careers. This whole career-minded mentality creates a divide in the community between fans and producers IMO. Videos are better when they're a hobby and not a job.

Quote from: eggsalad on March 27, 2016, 01:04:23 PM

ends justify the means?
inevitably fail at everything i do?
close enough

Spoiler

And you're secretly really human?

yes
i am very human

ends justify the means?
inevitably fail at everything i do?
close enough

Evolution only moves in one direction lmao.

This is one of those terms that really has become a buzzword.
It exists much better as a term to describe aggregate behavior than it does individual interactions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/03/23/north-carolina-passes-bill-blocking-lgbt-protections/

Why? Because they're afraid of sexual predators.

North Carolina on Wednesday passed a sweeping law overturning gay and transgender protections at the local level and requiring students to use restrooms that correspond to the sex listed on their birth certificates.

The measure was introduced Wednesday morning as part of a hastily called special session, passed both chambers later in the day and was signed by Gov. Pat McCrory (R) that evening. In a statement, McCrory said legislative action was necessary to prevent local governments from enacting nondiscrimination ordinances that overstep their authority in a way that might allow “a man to use a woman’s bathroom, shower or locker room.”

Rango no 1. lmao

just because it has the best animation for years doesn't mean the story wasnt shit the characters werent shit and overall mediocre film

So we're finally entering post 9/11 hysteria a second time?

It doesn't matter which one holds more merit

So the amount of which something has a more factual and empirically verified basis is irrelevant to you?

Choosing to value emotion over fact is harmful to society

The fact is that mental health is about improving overall emotional well-being as long as it coincides with a sustainable model and doesn't interfere with health in other areas. The fact is that transition is a well documented procedure for a well documented condition. The fact is that trans people are worse off right now if they don't try to transition. The freedom you take to declare some things as being irrational or as not being valid CUZ DUR IT ALLIGNS WIT THE DELUSIONAL IDEALS rather than aligning with your own is really irritating. I just posited something that serves to differentiate between gender dysphoria and otherkin, but you choose to just ignore it, because SLIPPERY SLOPES YO.

Why the fuck is the suicide rate so high for transgender people then

Because it isn't perfect and still needs a lot of improvement. Passability is going to drastcally effect results as people on the negative end of that spectrum are going to experience a lot of negative social repercussions that can result in them losing swathes of their social network.

Don't act like suicide rates with transition or those who do not transition are the same. I've only seen citations on pre and post-op SRS.
Let's not neglect to mention that people who choose not to transition also probably choose not to identify as trans, and can go uncounted if they inevitably kill themselves from depression.

It is my subjective truth that gender roles are meaningless
Except I don't force it on anyone
I've said many times in this thread that you don't have to care whether I think being transgender is good or not

Just don't, for the millionth time, force your ideals on society

You were just trying to use your subjective truth as a means to say no one should care about gender in a social context.

You misunderstood

I say that forcing society to accept your truth as the truth is harmful 
If subjective truth replaces objective truth, our society will become a clusterfuck of ideals
Anyone can say whatever they like and we would have to accept it as truth

So my argument is not of a physical one but an ideological one

Well the difference between identifying as an attack helicopter and identifying as the opposite sex is one of these things has a much, much longer history of documentation as the other and has far more discernible characteristics.

Tbh putting otherkin on the same pedestal as transgender people is pretty insulting and trivializing. And again, one of these conditions is wanting to emulate a role that already exists in society. The other is emulating something that ranges from primal, to inanimate, to non-existent. There is a clear distinction.

I have no doubt that people are working on it now

But the trans community is impressing on society there is nothing wrong with transgenderism
And there is nothing wrong with transgenderism socially but they are destroying any chance those people might have of fixing their problem by saying there is no problem

Again with the poorly defined boogeyman of "the trans community"?
Regardless, you're just refusing to comprehend that when people say that being trans is okay, they aren't saying that gender dysphoria isn't a horrible condition that feels awful, because it is. They are saying that trying to transition is a perfectly acceptable choice for someone to undertake, and that that decision should be respected and understood, because failing to do so just encourages people to not adequately cope with a debilitating condition.

If a cure popped up tomorrow how many people do you think will go get treatment?
Very little because transgenders today are perfectly happy living in their bubble of delusion

Probably because transition is pretty effective and has high satisfaction. (inb4 another erroneous SRS statistics citation)
Luckily no miracle cure will feasibly exist for a long time, and doing nothing is the worst thing we can do.

Personally I think the concept of gender is irrelevant in today's society
Pink dresses no longer need to be associated to females and fighting no longer needs to be associated to men

That's not to say that transgender people still don't have mental disease but yes gender is a meaningless construct in today's society

"Personally", okay, so it is of your opinion.

"Gender is a meaningless construct in today's society", wait which is it? Is your subjective truth now the objective truth?

Don't be intentionally ignorant of still present gender roles to suit your argument.

I agree, if gender roles were completely abolished, the need for transition would be greatly diminished and for all I know could largely disappear. But bodily dysphoria can be as much a component of GID as social roles, and those exist in vacuum.

the people who hate it win because the others are all fat fucks

chocolate milk is a meme among jocks dude

Quote from: Tsirist on March 18, 2016, 12:32:22 PM

Does anyone have any evidence of there being a suppression of research into dysphoria-nullifying drugs? i.e. something that would "make the feelings go away" in contrast with transgenderism. i still don't understand why people say "we should be researching this and clearly something would be found" if they're not experts in the research area and if they haven't already checked to see what has been done

ironically, i remember reading about a schizophrenic and gender dysphoric patient whose dysphoria was dispelled by his schizophrenia drugs but i can't find the research article anymore. . . .

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that research will no longer continue if society no longer considers it a mental illness

Once you stop classifying something as a mental disease, you stop trying to cure it
It's first grade logic

You're literally contradicting yourself.
It is a literal fact that people are working very hard to try and solve it right now.
And you've stated that people are trying to make it not classified as a mental illness.
These two groups overlap immensely.

Did Trump's "make people we support pay us more" rhetoric include Israel?...yknow the biggest receiver of US aid?

Have you ever taken the moment to analyze the difference between an untreated schizoids ability to function in society compared to a "untreated" (transitioned) trans person?

I mean I'd hope for someone as pathologically obsessed as you, that thought has crossed your mind.

No the trans community don't see a problem at all
They pretend there's nothing wrong with the mind
I'm saying cure as in making them mentally normal again
And in order to make something normal, you have to admit that it's abnormal
And the transgender movement has made it so that we're not allowed to admit there's a problem anymore

Define "the trans community". Because from what I can tell, it's just a boogeyman you can use to say does this or does that, as credible as citing the Gay Agenda or blaming Zionist Cults.
The "professionals" I refer to are sexual health clinics that follow SOC regarding ensuring that patients are full informed on the effects and expectations of treatment.

Yes let's fuck up their head even more shall we

If anti-depressants produce good results, you're fine with it. If hormones produce good results, you're not. Unless you can produce a distinction between the two other than "Dere DELusional!" and just restating the fact they're not cis, I'm going to remain convinced that you don't give an actual shit about the well being or quality of life of dysphoric individuals, you just want them to be cis. Why? Probably because you find the idea of a trans individual inherently upseting, which, I mean it as literally and clinically as I can, is transphobia.