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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:26:41 PM »
Cars that are faster, safer, and more fuel efficient are better for those highly specific purposes.
But those purposes aren't relevant to everybody.
Kinda are, especially from either a money saving or professional racing standpoint. Otherwise you're just gonna keep appealing to a variable that doesn't seem to exist. but you do you
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:25:11 PM »
"Better" at what?
Combat? Sure, you're absolutely correct. It's not better than a modern weapon.
That's what those types of guns are invented for. Sorry Verb, you're wrong in this regard. Hence why I said the sentimental value as compared to the technology it goes with. I'm done talking about it since I keep running into the same wall of "what if???" and "says who???" I'll stick with the arguing from authority fallacy. I've said my piece and made my point (only to have them simply tossed away because you don't agree with them, without offering any counter argument other than what I just mentioned above). I've got other things to do.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:23:00 PM »
I'm not saying, nor did I ever say that you can or cannot do that. I'm saying it's simply more difficult and doesn't allow as much creativity. And I'm more than certain no developers do that now a days, even with games that are going for the 8bit feel/look. Because that's the progress of technology allowing them to do more. By all means, if you want to go into developing, you can be the first to do it, but to my knowledge, it's not happening, because you can't stop the progress of machines, like my Ottoman bro said. Once again, you're appealing to the "what if?" factor, without even taking into account it never happens. https://youtu.be/kq3JjNzd3gY?t=352
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:14:24 PM »
Woah woah woah.
Who is forcing anybody to do anything here?
I'm more so speaking from a figurative standpoint. Not quite literal. As for your first bit, I explained why it would, but you're either ignoring it or completely discounting it by restating the same thing again (you just keep saying "some may believe it, but some may not, so it doesn't matter"), so I won't go further with it.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:13:41 PM »
A WW2 veteran (let's say we're speaking from 15 years ago) can like a gun from the 1900's during his time of service. That doesn't sudden mean it's better than its modern counterpart. It means he has an emotional attachment to it. Emotional attachments don't suddenly mean the product in question is better or worse from a factual standpoint in the field it is in.
Cars are another prime example I can think of with this. It's why antique cars still have value in money. That doesn't mean they're faster, safer, or more fuel efficient.
I'm rather proud of this comparison. Good job, Luci. Thanks, slut.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:12:08 PM »
A WW2 veteran (let's say we're speaking from 15 years ago) can like a gun from the 1900's during his time of service. That doesn't sudden mean it's better than its modern counterpart. It means he has an emotional attachment to it. Emotional attachments don't suddenly mean the product in question is better or worse from a factual standpoint in the field it is in.
Cars are another prime example I can think of with this. It's why antique cars still have value in money. That doesn't mean they're faster, safer, or more fuel efficient.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:08:08 PM »
called it
i'm sure there is 'art' of almost everything
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:07:29 PM »
"Moldy bread tastes better than fresh bread"
No it doesn't. There's something seriously wrong with you if you think it does.
Bread isn't comparable to art.
I'm sure you can find some creative bread. Art comes in all forms, even if it is stupid. I think "art" is one of the most subjective things around. Which means when people argue about what is and isn't art, it's about as annoying as when people are what is and isn't good music.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:05:19 PM »
eh, lost interest. Who cares.
I've never met someone who doesn't like music.
Is it fallacious to point out that there very well could be someone out there who dislikes music?
And therefore makes the statement "everybody likes music" incorrect, because liking music is purely subjective?
I believe that has to do more so with the human brain and its creativity factor. Something I don't have enough knowledge, time, or effort to invest in. I wasn't raising this point anyway, I'm focusing specifically on what I posted a long post for.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 10:01:49 PM »
If we're talking about the progression of technology and what it allows, then yes it is better from that perspective.
If you want to stagnate, and not advance, then sure, it doesn't? But you're always arguing that progression is the key to a lot of things in life and that stagnation is a cancer. Something I completely agree with.
Art is the exception to that rule. An artist can choose to stagnate--or even regress--if that's what he wants to do.
Likewise, a consumer has every right to appreciate art in any way that he wants. He's allowed to think that Super Mario 64 has the best graphics ever and that Nier: Automata looks ugly as in. That's his right.
We have to disagree, because every other form of art I can think of isn't inherently rooted in technology. Video games (and movies I suppose) are the exception for that rule (as in they didn't exist until the technology allowed it. Something quite different to say, painting), because technology has stagnated creativity countless times in the past, and developers and directors have expressed that. Look at George Lucas of all people, one of the pioneers of technology in movies. Arguing if he ruined things is one story, but he's said that technology has held back things he wishes he could have done, which he later did do, both in the older movies and in the prequels. Video game developers have expressed this too, having to sacrifice things because the technology isn't there to express things. When it's rooted in technology, creativity and progression go hand in hand. One could argue that further progression allows people to regress in looks/sounds (think Undertale) more effectively because they can do it far easier, and far more creatively, while still maintaining something of an old look and feel. The window widens and allows them to be more creative with their ambitions and creativity, not constrain them and suck it away. Now you could argue they should think more creatively if the tech doesn't allow it, but I believe from an artistic standpoint, that forcing someone to do something they can't quite achieve, hinders that creativity at its roots.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:56:43 PM »
I never do it.
I've seen you do it plenty of times. Don't ask me for an example, because I'm not digging up anything. I'll just bring it up the next time I see it.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:56:05 PM »
If we're talking about the progression of technology and what it allows, then yes it is better from that perspective.
If you want to stagnate, and not advance, then sure, it doesn't? But you're always arguing that progression is the key to a lot of things in life and that stagnation is a cancer. Something I completely agree with.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:53:02 PM »
eh, lost interest. Who cares.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:52:31 PM »
Maybe 'Argument from Authority'? An argument from authority, also called an appeal to authority, is a form of logical and persuasive argument using expert opinion to defend the likelihood of the truth of the matter asserted. More precisely, it is a defeasible argument and a statistical syllogism taking this form
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:49:47 PM »
Verb, that's some kind of fallacy I can't think of.
"I didn't say that but the POTENTIAL someone doesn't care suddenly means it's not valid."
Maybe base rate fallacy? Something.
I don't think so, you'd have to find the exact fallacy, but I'm pretty sure that's not a fallacious argument.
The argument doesn't regard validity--it regards subjectivity. If everybody in the world enjoyed the movie Suicide Squad, does that mean Suicide Squad is objectively good?
That's a pretty good question from a subjective standpoint, but comparing a movie to a video game is way too different because if we're to compare the two, you'd have to argue from a more technical perspective such as the frames, the type of camera used, the lighting, etc. Otherwise a more apt comparison of the two would be if stories in so and so games are shit or not if everyone enjoyed it.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:48:53 PM »
I do think you're arguing from a fallacy. I shall do research to find out what kind of fallacy it is, but you're arguing from a stance where arguing doesn't matter because you'll always discard it with a "yeah but some people may not like it", as if that somehow negates the base statement.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:45:15 PM »
Maybe somebody doesn't fucking like that. It's not that complicated.
You don't HAVE to understand it.
Just because you don't care about something doesn't mean you're suddenly correct when it comes to technology and progression in technology.
That can apply to a lot of things in life.
It's not a matter of being "correct." My entire point is that it's subjective.
We're not talking about technology, here--we're talking about art. I'd say in order for you to even participate in this conversation, you have to concede that video games are an art form. They're not just for entertainment.
You would also have to concede though that video games at their very definition are created due to technology, and focus around it. It's not a board game. There is nothing subjective about technology progressing for more particles, stable frame rate, and other various things being fit on the screen. It's even apparent for your wet dream of a game Breath of the Wild from the new system to the Wii U. It doesn't even matter if it's not going for a hyper realistic look. Some things apply across all spectrums of games.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:43:58 PM »
Verb, that's some kind of fallacy I can't think of.
"I didn't say that but the POTENTIAL someone doesn't care suddenly means it's not valid."
Maybe base rate fallacy? Something.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 09:41:37 PM »
Maybe somebody doesn't fucking like that. It's not that complicated.
You don't HAVE to understand it.
Just because you don't care about something doesn't mean you're suddenly correct when it comes to technology and progression in technology. That can apply to a lot of things in life.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 08:13:33 PM »
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
What do I win
An orgy.
Just like the simulations
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« on: April 26, 2017, 08:09:06 PM »
Nobody bitched about it then, maybe it was because CoD wasn't as big as it is now.
It has more so to do with society and the alt righty's splerging on the internet boards now a days at anything that might feel """""inclusive""""" Or the more logical thought. People are stupid in essence
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« on: April 26, 2017, 06:16:56 PM »
Might possibly be a new engine as a friend of mine pointed out. It appears to handle smoke, fog, fire, and facial animations differently.
We'll have to wait for gameplay though to be sure.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 05:58:25 PM »
I wish Activision would just pull the plug on this series already
As long as it keeps raking in cash, it won't. They'll do to it what they did to Guitar Hero.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 05:00:22 PM »
Fair enough
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« on: April 26, 2017, 04:46:35 PM »
I'm so glad that Call of Duty decided that adding diversity to their character list was a priority.
I'm not sure that's sarcastic or not knowing you, but I would love to see some bits of the African American squads, as I only know one CoD that did it (Finest Hour). That and female French Resistance fighters, who did actually fight. People joke the French for surrendering quickly, but the French Resistance was pretty bad ass.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 04:45:10 PM »
Savage af
i like when corporate twitters have some fun, but
couldn't that lead to potential bad PR
someone's gonna end up saying the wrong thing
If you're not careful about it, yeah. So long as it revolves around the food, I'm sure it's fine.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 04:39:49 PM »
Tbh though, I'm glad this is its own thread. It'll help focus the discussion which tends to go on for a while sometimes.
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« on: April 26, 2017, 04:35:17 PM »
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« on: April 26, 2017, 04:33:32 PM »
Savage af
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« on: April 26, 2017, 04:30:54 PM »
That'd be me  Smug Wendy 
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