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« on: February 28, 2015, 12:56:27 AM »
And I never said there is no morality without religion, only that there is less morality without it.
I'm sorry what?
sometimes I am overly pessimistic, and also the post was sort of a retort to the OP, which I found offensive.
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« on: February 28, 2015, 12:47:47 AM »
Because the human race would be lost and devoid of morality without it.
Do you really believe that?
Considering the kind of laws that exist in secular nations today, yes.
Like what?
Legal abortion, euthanasia, religion not allowed in public (in some places, like France), religion not allowed in schools, religious things not allowed on public property, etc.
You'd better pray to god that my pimp hand is too weak to do any permanent damage to your face with that kind of attitude.
You literally embody the stereotypical kind of bible-thumper. The inverse of a fedora-tipping atheist who calls out any Church goers on Sundays for worshipping an evil god, and who shames Muslims for following a child rapist, as if those were the only ideals of their respective religions.
Yes, of course, morality is entirely lost without religion. That makes perfect sense, naturally, if you assume that HELL IS THE ONLY REASON NOT TO DO SOMETHING. That's looking at something from a toddler's point of view. What you're suggesting is that people say, "Man, I don't wanna stab that guy or I'll go to hell" instead of "Man, I really don't wanna stab that guy because stabbing someone is a shitty thing to do."
Do you not understand the concept of empathy at all? Do you not understand why people don't go on murder sprees in usual society? I can pretty much guarantee you it wasn't because of religion. One of the first religions was that of the Assyrians; Ashurism. Ashur spoke through Ashurbanipal, and commanded the Assyrians to conquer and slaughter so that he would not have to destroy the world in a fiery rage. What noble beginnings, amirite?
Of course modern day radical sects of Islam such as wahabism, old-age Christians such as those during the first and third crusades, Japanese lords who crucified dutch priests, a written justification for owning slaves, and of course the lovely Hong Xiuquan who started a horrific rebellion which ended in the slaughter of millions due to a following which believed that he was the younger sibling of Christ all prove that religion works as an absolutely superb moral compass, yes? Naturally, those who are spiritual tend to be less shitty than those who are not, right?
No, not really. Some people are shitty, and others aren't. Religion has little to do with those things. I won't shit on your personal beliefs, but it's when you try to force them onto others that it becomes an issue. Governmental support of religion, school-system support of religion, and other things as such are all banned BECAUSE of those exact reasons. Nobody is saying that your child can't say a prayer in school, they're simply saying that the school can't force the secular child in the corner to say a prayer along with him.
Of course, you're also anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia, so it's not as though I see you on the moral high ground of many standpoints.
Why on earth would you think I don't like Muslims? I said no such thing. And I never said there is no morality without religion, only that there is less morality without it. And by the way, a Christian who only doesn't stab people because they'd go to hell for it, is probably still going to hell.
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« on: February 28, 2015, 12:43:01 AM »
That's fantastic. I'm not getting into the first part just because I'm lazy, but I can understand your view on marriage. Just not the thing about secular vs religious thing. But as for the 2nd, no it wasn't a direct attack to YOU. You took it as that. I said that to literally everyone in general. I didn't say "lol look at this Max fgt and his stupid beliefs, right fam?"
Relax.
ok fine
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« on: February 28, 2015, 12:21:26 AM »
Because the human race would be lost and devoid of morality without it.
Do you really believe that?
Considering the kind of laws that exist in secular nations today, yes.
Like what?
Legal abortion, euthanasia, religion not allowed in public (in some places, like France), religion not allowed in schools, religious things not allowed on public property, etc.
I'm failing to see how this stuff is a bad thing.
A woman's right to chose isn't "devoid of morality".
Neither is government not respecting the establishment of any religion. By not promoting any single religion it's keeping all of them equal. I mean, unless you see the government keeping your religion equal to all others as "devoid of morality".
"society is immoral without religion" "why?" "because, x" "x isn't immoral tho" see, you're kind of proving my point to me.
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« on: February 28, 2015, 12:17:47 AM »
]Who are you? If you're someone I know elsewhere, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I do get pissy when people mock my religious beliefs.
Also, really, you insulted my religious beliefs for basically no reason, made a bunch of unfounded assumptions, while moments before just telling people not to act like fedoras. Insulting people's beliefs unpovoked is exactly what a typical fedora tipper does.
You taking it personally like it was a direct attack is the funny thing here.
I was calling out both religious and non religious people about their non negotiable thing. It's retarded.
Edit: And I'm sure half the people posting these in this thread are basement dwelling virgins anyway.
It has been said already, marrying someone with extremely different views is unwise. Why would I marry someone who wouldn't allow me to raise my children Catholic, when I find it morally obligatory to do so? And why do you think a religious person would rush into a marriage like a dolt and then get divorced? First of all, I don't even believe in divorce, and second of all, devout people take marriage more seriously then secular people do. Marriage to me, is a lifelong insoluble contract between me and a potential spouse, in the eyes of God, that can never be undone, I do not take it lightly. And what do you mean I 'took it like a direct attack'? It kinda was a direct attack...
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« on: February 27, 2015, 11:37:49 PM »
-Willing to practice abstinence and have a Catholic wedding
Yes, let's listen to what some random old man in the old days suddenly said was wrong, and not was Jesus said at all. Let's also listen to them saying women having any power in the Catholic church being wrong, and then turn a Saint into a whore because women are bad!
Let's also have an expensive wedding and then get divorced in 4 years because we focused on the idea of marriage rather than the marriage itself, and what we'd do if the other suddenly came down with a disease or the first wave of "excitement" in the relationship fades away.
It's rather amusing that you told people to put down their fedoras only a few posts before this, then proceed to make a fedorarific post like this.
It's rather amusing to find you get annoyed when people call your art shit :^)
Who are you? If you're someone I know elsewhere, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I do get pissy when people mock my religious beliefs. Also, really, you insulted my religious beliefs for basically no reason, made a bunch of unfounded assumptions, while moments before just telling people not to act like fedoras. Insulting people's beliefs unpovoked is exactly what a typical fedora tipper does.
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« on: February 27, 2015, 11:35:48 PM »
Because the human race would be lost and devoid of morality without it.
Do you really believe that?
Considering the kind of laws that exist in secular nations today, yes.
Like what?
Legal abortion, euthanasia, religion not allowed in public (in some places, like France), religion not allowed in schools, religious things not allowed on public property, etc.
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« on: February 27, 2015, 11:27:07 PM »
-Willing to practice abstinence and have a Catholic wedding
Yes, let's listen to what some random old man in the old days suddenly said was wrong, and not was Jesus said at all. Let's also listen to them saying women having any power in the Catholic church being wrong, and then turn a Saint into a whore because women are bad!
Let's also have an expensive wedding and then get divorced in 4 years because we focused on the idea of marriage rather than the marriage itself, and what we'd do if the other suddenly came down with a disease or the first wave of "excitement" in the relationship fades away.
It's rather amusing that you told people to put down their fedoras only a few posts before this, then proceed to make a fedorarific post like this.
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« on: February 25, 2015, 12:49:52 AM »
Because the human race would be lost and devoid of morality without it.
Do you really believe that?
Considering the kind of laws that exist in secular nations today, yes.
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« on: February 24, 2015, 06:48:40 PM »
-Pro-life
-Willing to raise children as exclusively Catholic
-Willing to practice abstinence and have a Catholic wedding
There's more things then just 3, but those were the first to come to mind.
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« on: February 24, 2015, 06:46:13 PM »
Because the human race would be lost and devoid of morality without it.
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« on: February 15, 2015, 03:03:10 AM »
Should be in prison for life.
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« on: February 10, 2015, 11:24:46 PM »
Because he's great at his job. He presents the doctrine of the Catholic Church in a more accessible way, without changing the doctrine itself.
Seems like those doctrines are pretty flimsy if you can get opposite view points from the same text.
if by flimsy you mean infallible
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« on: February 10, 2015, 12:32:49 AM »
Because he's great at his job. He presents the doctrine of the Catholic Church in a more accessible way, without changing the doctrine itself.
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« on: February 09, 2015, 04:10:28 PM »
Yep. No sprint please.
Sprint can be turned off
Not good enough. It needs to be out completely, or else maps will be built around sprint, and suck as a result.
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« on: February 09, 2015, 12:42:48 AM »
Yep. No sprint please.
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