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« on: July 10, 2018, 07:11:45 AM »
OH NO NO NO
Nigel "fuck the EU but let me continue making a 6 digit salary as a member of the European parliament and also don't take away my personal EU pension for the family so that I can move abroad when Brexit goes wrong" Farage? Amazing some people still support people like that.
I love that he went to Ireland to promote "Irexit", and we told him to fuck off.
Truly delusional.
hahaha why the fuck would Ireland rally behind a British aristocrat what a fucking retard
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« on: July 09, 2018, 04:42:50 PM »
I would love to drop a deuse on your doorstep
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« on: July 09, 2018, 04:12:42 PM »
I can't believe Ian is going to become Mickey Mouse.
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« on: July 09, 2018, 02:48:12 PM »
She need to like my finger in her pusy
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« on: July 09, 2018, 06:55:09 AM »
You're not getting the last word, though Neither are you. You've already lost this argument. You have nothing to say other than crying for a utopia where everything is free but people also somehow make money. You haven't thought this through at all. Yes it is, there's no difference. The difference is one is locked on the disc and the other is legitimate extra content. Then you would know that games, especially in the triple A industry, haven't innovated shit for the past twelve years. Except for Nintendo. Yes, the exact same Mario games over and over are really innovative. Physics in games haven't been improved at all. What a joke lmao. I don't care if you bought it for a dollar, you said it was $30 originally. That's theft. Except it isn't. It's exactly what you said, enough content to justify almost a whole new game sold for half the price of a new game. It's how ODST should've been priced. Yes Zero rebuttals, you know you're wrong. I probably typed "the most the envelope has ever been pushed," thought that sounded too awkward, rephrased it to "the biggest envelope pushers," but forgot to delete the "most." It happens, even to the biggest English scholars such as myself. 📸 No, there it doesn't go. You said "everywhere else," which implies it was $10 more everywhere else, which implies that you got some kind of deal. A deviation from the standard price, or who knows, they didn't realize it was supposed to be priced at $60. So nope. Or, you know, I meant everywhere else I had checked locally in my area. Or how Amazon also routinely sells games for cheaper than retailers. It's never $60 across the board. If you're legit still paying $60 for a new game, you're getting shafted. So ticket prices to museums should skyrocket the instant more exhibits are added, is what you're saying. This is a bad analogy because museums are generally cheap or even free, as "art belongs to the people". Games are art, too, but you don't just look at them hanging on a wall. It's something you play, it's a product. It's still not the norm, therefore it doesn't matter. It's normal enough to be included in any conversation about pizza. It doesn't, because you can't return DLC. That's what I'm saying. Pizza and DLC are different things. You can return a pizza, you can't return DLC. Among one hundred trillion other differences that make it a stupid comparison. That has nothing to do with the analogy that toppings are DLC and pizza is the game. In any case, maybe refunds should be added for DLC in the way Steam does it. You wouldn't. I never said that. Everyone obviously would enjoy having access to all the DLC, but not everyone is going to enjoy all the DLC itself. So if you're not interested, you don't have to take advantage of it. That's why the comparison doesn't work.
With a GOTY edition, you have the option to access the DLC that you want, despite having all of it. With a pizza that has everything you don't want on it, the pizza is ruined. Shit comparison, never make comparisons again. This is your own personal opinion, though. Because there are plenty of people who enjoy all toppings. The original building wasn't really completed if they added something ten years later. There's nothing I'm not understanding, this is basic logic. So a building built before the advent of elevators isn't complete even though it's literally complete and construction is finished. Right. In the opinion of a discerning consumer. But you're not really a consumer. You just want free shit. A game isn't a burger, it's a meal. A meal comes with that burger, the fries, and a drink. If any of these things are missing, you just fucked me out of my money, because I paid for a meal. You realize a full meal costs more than just a single burger, right? That's like saying you bought the game and the season pass then didn't get DLC. Then I'd agree with you. By since that never happens, I don't agree with you. DLC coming out months after the fact doesn't make a difference, it's just saying "we forgot your fries sorry" three months late, and saying I have to pay for it. Oops, we forgot that we're not morally supposed to add more shit to my bill after I've already paid for everything. If a burger costs $1 fries and a drink would cost more. You don't just get fries and drink for the price of one burger. Yes they are. 😴😴😴 I know exactly what it means, and DLC fits the definition quite perfectly. 😴😴😴😴😴 Except I didn't lose, I did give you a rebuttal, and I know you're wrong. I don't give a fuck about whatever plight the developers go through, at all whatsoever. I don't care. I care about the consumer only. You did lose. Because I'm talking my plight as a 7 year old consumer seeing my cousin have more content than me in a game we both have, and me being unable to ever get the content unless I buy a GameCube and SA2B. DLC would've remedied the problem and been much cheaper. That highly benefits the consumer. I paid for the drink. If I didn't get one, then you're agreeing with me. Thanks. You didn't, though. $60 covers just the base game. If you're a small brained consumer who doesn't care about art and only wants to be entertained. Much of the value of the best games ever can't be fully appreciated unless you experience them yourself. It's just a fact.
I will play any game, I don't care if I'm interested in it from a cursory glance. I want to play everything, but not if I have to pay an arm and a leg to get the full experience. And in this industry, I never will. Because of people like you, who think DLC is okay. It's not. Games go down in price and there are sales. These people need to make money, they're not a charity service. You're the person with a small brain for not understanding how this works, having it explained to you, then simply saying "I don't care". No dude, we don't care about your whining. You're not entitled to try every game in existence if you can't afford to. That's just life. Because modding is the active destruction of art, so obviously I'm going to fucking hate mods. More than DLC, in fact. At least DLC is official content. An artist pissing on his own art is a million times less offensive than consumers pissing on art. Fuck anyone who thinks they have control over anyone else's art. Never gets old😂😂😂 And maybe I should start supporting piracy, but ONLY for games that have DLC.
If the game doesn't have DLC, it's not okay to pirate it. That game was made by someone with integrity. Whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. Pirating games is trash, these people barely make that much money as it is. Hours isn't enough. I want literal days worth of the HIGHEST quality content, or make a new game all together. 😿 Being an angry, entitled brat is the only proper state of being. You're living your life incorrectly. It's the worst way to live. People who think society owes them something are the worst. Not far at all because Sturgeon's law is a commonly accepted truism. Butthurt law doesn't apply to everything, and you only accept it because you're under the impression everything sucks and developers owe you free games. Now you're getting it A man who is never taken seriously. And it ended up being 10x more intelligent, sorry to disappoint you. You've just been throwing a temper tantrum. This is what I'm saying. The fact that I'm PRESSURED into buying this stupid shit is part of the problem.
How can I be MISSING OUT on "good content" if I already have the complete game, according to you? That makes no fucking sense.
Because it's extra content that is good.
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« on: July 08, 2018, 03:28:06 PM »
There's no difference. Being against disc-locked content doesn't make sense if you're not going to be against all DLC. It would've been regular-ass downloadable content anyway if it weren't locked to the disc, so what difference does it really make? It's all cancer, you can't pick and choose what you like. Because disc locked content is a scam. Normal DLC isn't. They're not, not in any impressive ways anymore. Knowing you, you only care about graphics or some shit. Graphics stopped being impressive a long time ago, and I'll go back to the 8-bit era for all I care about graphics. There's more to games than just that. Except you don't know me at all, I don't really care about graphics. I'm talking about how games play. How ARMA 3 for example has incredible real life shit in it. Only if the missions are the only thing that has any value to you about the game, and nothing else. Which is foolish. That game isn't worth $60, maybe $25 at best. You were stolen from. It's foolish to care about more missions? Lmao did you hit your head? I bought it for a dollar. If anything I feel like I robbed them. If they're a good publisher, they won't have to worry about that. Because good people just get money for free?😂👌 Stupid, foolish, mental midget
Your IQ is double digit Peepee poopoo can't you see That you can't keep up with me >compete
📸 >comparing a typo to writing "most biggest" English scholar status revoked Also, no it isn't. It's a completely functioning car, but that doesn't mean anything. How much did you pay for it? Cars vary in terms of price, especially from dealer to dealer, and that's why they aren't comparable to video games. Because the market says they're all worth the same price (and therefore, have the same amount of value in content). Which is retarded.
I bought MW2 on launch week for $10 less than everywhere else, so there goes another flimsy argument of yours. The car is complete. Cheap or not, shoddily made or not, it's complete. I don't care. It could be the fucking shittiest and most disappointing DLC ever, and I won't care. I don't play games to have fun, I play them to experience art—and if some aspects of it are locked out, I'm not getting a complete picture of the painting, and I have every fucking right to be pissed off about it.
How would you like it if you visited the Louvre, but when you got to the Mona Lisa, you noticed they covered it up with a curtain. Your tour guide tells you that you aren't worthy to gaze upon this painting unless you pay an extra fee—you've already paid to visit this museum, and now you're being obliged to pay extra to see one more painting. Maybe not even the Mona Lisa—one entire section of the museum is sequestered off, and you only have access to it if you pay.
Would that be okay with you? Terrible analogy. You paid in advance knowing the Mona Lisa is in there, and then you come to find out it's blocked. Not at all like buying DLC 3 months after playing the game. No, they don't. Nobody. Maybe you do, because you're gross and fat or something, but no normal person does this. hahaha, tons of people do this. I personally think it's gross too but I'm not gonna sit here and deny facts of life because they'd make my argument look bad. That'd just be childish. uhhhh
I didn't. Read that sentence again. It still doesn't make sense. If the pineapple is DLC, and the game is pizza, where in this equation does returning the DLC come into play? And why does it matter? It makes perfect sense, and I have no idea what you're even struggling with. What I'm saying isn't hard. Why would you be displeased with having all the DLC? That building wasn't completed before.
You can't add to something if it's already finished. That's what the fucking word means. If you honestly expect to change my mind on this, you never ever will, so you might as well give up the ghost now if you SERIOUSLY think that you can change the definition of words that brutally. I get accused of doing the same thing, but never to that extent. Buildings can be finished and then have something added to them afterwards. The original building was completed, then 10 years later they add an elevator. What are you not understanding about this? You can say it 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0000,000,000,000,000 more times, and it still won't make it a reality. I don't care if it's added after the fact. It's an unacceptable practice that should never be done. In your opinion. No game is worth $60, In your opinion. so the fact that anyone should be expected to pay MORE than $60 for a complete game experience when most games aren't worth $30 is completely asinine, and what you're basically doing here is saying consumers should be relentlessly fucked for every nickle and dime they can swallow. And I'm supposed to agree with you. I'm supposed to love DLC and think it's this great thing. So let me get this straight. I sell you a burger, you buy it and eat it. I then say that there are also fries for sale 5 minutes later, because the potatoes just arrived. Fries are sold separately either way and I couldn't have sold it to you with your burger because the guy that delivers potatoes was late. The potatoes cost me money, the oil I fry them in costs money, the man hours, the electricity, and so on. If I were to just give fries away I'd lose a lot of money. If I were stop offering fries completely, I'd lose business to my competitors. How am I fucking you out of your money? Just because you don't make a lot of money doing something doesn't mean you can't be greedy. What kind of retarded shit is that? Obviously the money isn't the only or even main interest. Nobody owes ME anything, not personally.
Every single player is owed the DLC, though, if they already paid full price for the game. It's not just about me.
In fact, I'll take the fall for my cause—all DLC should be free for EVERYONE except for me. I'll vow to pay for every DLC from this point on if it means that everyone can have it for free tomorrow. Now you can't play this retarded "you're so entitled" game, as if being entitled is at all a bad thing. It's GOOD to be entitled.
But no, they do deserve to be paid. For the base game. Which I did already. You, and anybody that thinks like you, are wrong. You are not entitled to anything. Nobody is. Yes. Less content = less money being extorted = objectively better. Yes. You clearly have no idea what extortion means. Whatever, that game is booboo buttcheeks anyway. Well you clearly lost the argument right here. You have no rebuttal, and you know I'm right. Whether you like the game or not doesn't refute my argument that DLC is a good way for developers to offer more content they might not be able to fit on the disc or that they just didn't have time to make or finalize. There is such a thing as having a deadline. LMAO
No, paying for the base game is paying for the meal. DLC is like having to pay for refills. How is DLC a refill, when you never had the drink? It's not the same, I have to play it for myself. It's not like a movie, where I can see a clip and see if it looks interesting to me. Games are interactive, and if I can't interact with it, then I don't really know what the game is like.
Most of my favorite games probably looked uninteresting as fuck to me when I first saw gameplay of them. It was only until I played it for myself that I realized how awesome they actually were. Well this is just bullshit. There's a reason gameplay videos and reviews exist and have so many views. It's because people can make up their minds (more or less) if the game is for them. Probably Yet you oppose piracy and modding. It's all shit. If you're saying I can judge it all without playing it myself, then I'm judging it by not playing it myself.
It's all shit, and you're all fucking stupid for buying into it. Except that's factually untrue, because there is good DLC that adds hours of content and shitty microtransactions or $15 map packs. They fail, but they succeed in spreading the meme. The game isn't to succeed, that would be a waste of life. There are better hills to die on. Thats's what succeed means, to spread the word and be viewed positively. If you just look like an angry entitled brat, you're not really gonna rally people to your cause and it's gonna be really easy to dismiss you. Like I'm doing right now. And 90% of games are shitty.
The 10% of games that aren't shitty don't have $60 worth of content, either. Maybe $50 tops.
Then there's the magic 0.001% of games that really are worth $60, or above and beyond that.
You can't base the industry on outliers like this. Wow, how far up your ass did you have to reach to pull out these numbers? That's because you're not a discerning consumer, and you're not interested in games as an art form. You're just in it to have fun. You're the consumer that the industry wants. Yeah you can be as pretentious as you want dude but games are by their very nature made to have fun. That's why people make games, because they like to see other people have fun playing something they made. They absolutely have artistic value but to act like some snobby art critic and that it's wrong to have fun playing a game, just lol. I feel bad for you. If it were all free, I'd agree with you. 😴 Do you really think I can trust anyone's fucking shit-ass opinions on fucking anything? You serious? "EVERYBODY IS AN IDIOT EXCEPT FOR ME" I am entitled to extra content, because without it, I'm not getting a full game. 😿 This is why I said don't bother to argue with me on this. I haven't budged an inch, and I'm only ever going to double down on this. I know I'm right, I know everyone else is wrong. Nothing will change. You're wasting your time and fucking up my thread. You fucked up your own thread, and you have horrible arguments to support your point. Most anti DLC people just take this angle of microtransactions and a few bad practices by greedy publishers then paint the whole industry as evil. I was hoping your point of view would be a little more intelligent than this. But fine, I'll drop it. It really makes no difference to me whether or not you buy DLC, but you'll be missing out on a lot of good content. That's your life, though. You deprive of yourself of all sorts of pleasures to be this kind of martyr as if to try and justify your own existence to yourself.
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« on: July 08, 2018, 11:59:28 AM »
Whoever wins France Vs. Belgium will win the cup. I'm pretty sure it will be France but Mbappe needs to show up to get past that strong defensive.
mbappe you should stfu
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« on: July 08, 2018, 11:31:49 AM »
Anything less than utopia is trash, but that's not the point. You seem to think we're closer to that utopia than I do, when we're not. Close enough to be okay with being swindled and stolen from. Nobody is stealing anything from you unless we're talking about disc locked content. And games should either be less expensive to make, or developers should be pressured less to make expensive games. Fuck "pushing the envelope," the envelope hasn't been pushed since the '90s. Games fucking suck today. DLC is only a small part of the problem. Games are much more advanced these days, are you kidding me? Delightful, so fuck Activision and Microsoft for pushing this shit. Nothing else changes. What changes is that you need to apologize to developers😏 And how much did they cost you? It cost me $1 but the regular price these days is $5, and when it was released it was $30. So pretty much half a game for the same rate. Seems fair to me. 8 missions, 4 new multiplayer maps, 2 new game modes and 9 new weapons. The publisher, fucking obviously. It's not ever going to happen, but it's what needs to happen regardless. Where are the publishers supposed to get money from if there's no money to be made from sales? Extremely horrible. I'll never support it again, and fuck anyone who does. lol No it doesn't, not at all. The most biggest envelope pushers in the industry are indies and Nintendo. No one else has ever pushed the envelope. We've, by and large, been getting the same shit since the mid-2000s. Hardly anyone is innovating anymore in the AAA industry. >most biggest >indies and Nintendo 📸 Not if your IQ is high enough 📸 Yeah 📸 Who's to say a car is complete without those things? Cup holders were considered a cushy luxury at one point. Now, if a new car doesn't have any cup holders, it's considered a cheap piece of shit. Incomplete. It may be cheap but it's still a compete car. Bad analogy, again. It's not a complete game without the DLC. I'll never get the complete Dark Souls experience unless I buy the DLC, and that pisses me the fuck off. You're really not missing out on anything, trust me. I didn't say "a lot" of toppings, I said EVERY topping. No one realistically does this, and this is why this is a shitty analogy too. It's not a logical equivalent, because there's NO ONE who would be displeased with having all DLC available to them. Plenty of people eat pizzas with all the toppings available. Try again. If you don't like pineapple, you don't put it on your pizza. If it's on your pizza, you return it. Then why the hell did you order all the toppings? If you don't like a DLC, but you still have it because you bought the GOTY edition, you don't have to access it. wtf? You paid for it anyways this doesn't make any sense. An extra that makes the game incomplete without it. Nope, extra. It's an addition. An expansion. If a building is expanded, it doesn't mean it wasn't a complete building before, it simply has had an expansion. I'm going to design a game halfway, sell it to you for $60, and then sell you the other half for $30. And you'll buy it, apparently, because that's how gullible you apparently are. I'll even tell you that the DLC was designed well after the game was already """finished.""" And you'll take my word for it, because you're a genius. I already agreed with you that there a lot of shady practices in regards to DLC. I'm not sure why you're being so emotional. I vigorously refuted it with great strength, and smashed it up with my huge, throbbing, vascular verbal musculature.
They're 100% necessary, especially if you want to complete the game. It's an expansion added after the fact. How many times do I need to say this? I never admitted that. You just did. You said "all the more reason to not fucking bother" when I said devs don't make a killing on DLC. So you admit they're not greedy. It's not that I can't afford it. It's that I shouldn't have to pay for it, even if I were wealthier than Bill Gates. So, again, why should all this stuff be free? Nobody owes you anything. They worked hard on the DLC, they deserved to be paid. And that was better. Way better. >less content = better 😂 You're not acting like it. You're acting like a dumb Gen Z-er who never knew how much better things used to be. Sorry I don't look at the past through rose tinted glasses. It sure was awesome that my cousin had more content in Sonic Adventure 2 because he had the GameCube version. Content I couldn't access because I had it on the Dreamcast and there was no DLC. I'm not talking about the pricing of the food. I'm talking about tipping. Then you're conflating the two. Paying for DLC isn't tipping. It's paying for the meal. How the fuck am I supposed to know what's good or bad until I pay for it and play it first? You realize that's fucking impossible, right? You can look up reviews and ask your friends and try to use your best judgment, but sometimes, that's just not good enough. You could be missing out on the best gaming experience of your life, and I'll never be able to experience it because I'm not willing to pay extra for content that should already be in the goddamn game itself. That's ridiculous. In this modern age where you can find entire playthroughs of a game on YouTube. Come on man. I textbook am. You textbook aren't. They made the product, they're selling it. End of story. Extortion, and you should be more pissed about it than me, because you've paid for more DLC garbage. You're right, I should just hack Microsoft and get the DLC for free. I shouldn't ever have to pay people for things they make and are selling. Do what I do. I don't expect to change anything, but I'm not going to sit quietly and just accept this practice. Ever. I'm going to bitch and piss and moan for the rest of my life about it if I have to, and I'll be happy doing it. It's my right. Or just don't buy shitty DLC and shit like gun skins. People like you are why I have to be extreme. If no one else sees it your way, you have to be extreme. That's the only way the meme can truly spread. If you look at any movement ever, extremists almost always end up failing. It's an axiomatic truth, there's no proof required. Extra content that must be paid extra for is basically extortion. There's literally no good or acceptable way to go about it. If I follow your insane line of thinking, sure. It's not an obsession, it's me wanting exactly what the fuck I paid for. A complete game, with ALL of its content available to me. If I paid $60, I want $60 worth of content. Period. Unless it's a shitty game you're getting $60 worth of content. No game on the market in the last twelve years has been worth $60. Not a single goddamn one, and you're a moron if you think otherwise. Taking DLC into account might have actually made some games worth that much, but when you buy DLC, you no longer just paid $60. You paid $70, or $80, or $100—all for content that only really amounts to $60 on a good day. I have played a ton of games worth that much where I get hundreds of hours of enjoyment. Movie tickets are like $20 just for an hour and a half and the movie might not even be that good. But yes, there's a lot of overpriced DLC. Most games aren't worth $10 even with all the DLC. If you pay more, you are wasting your money. See above. Why is that bullshit? I'm not entitled to all the game's content, apparently. You're backpedaling.
Why shouldn't I be nickled and dimed over every little possible thing in the game? I don't HAVE to buy it, after all.
It doesn't make the game incomplete, after all. Right? Right? Nope, I've always agreed there's a lot of bad DLC that's way too expensive. My main point has always been that DLC in and of itself is not a bad thing. I can't know if it's good unless I buy it and try it myself. That's the fucking trick. It's not like when I buy ten apples, and I receive exactly ten apples, so I couldn't possibly be dissatisfied. A game's quality is a lot more nuanced than that. You can know. Just look up gameplay and ask people. Why is it ridiculous? I don't want DLC, I want full games. That's all I want for the rest of time.
You get full games. Acting like you're entitled to extra content the developers make after the game is finished, and that it should be free, is ridiculous.
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« on: July 08, 2018, 07:42:28 AM »
That shit honestly should have left the internet years ago. I'm currently trying to keep running to other mediums for shitposting if this feminist crap doesn't fucking get killed. I've had people tell me "Oh you're just socially impaired," and I guess I am, but again that is not the fucking reason. Dude, this website is nothing more than just a cheap backwater internet forum that everyone, especially sjw's, uses for shitposting.
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« on: July 08, 2018, 05:01:50 AM »
Kids will all be total nobodies... the coach will be played by some famous actor from Thailand being if they cast a different race people will bitch. Then the entire film, it's high budget, will really just focus on Mark Wahlberg being in charge of the group of men trying to get the kids out.
As he seems willing to do these sort of shitty retell an event base films.
Yet I doubt it will get a big budget film made as the event is not really that dynamic. They don't move around, it's a flooded cave and yeah that's about it. Direct to netflix low budget with some random B list British actor as one of the main divers, still mostly just focus on getting the kids out.
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« on: July 08, 2018, 04:20:07 AM »
Wow
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« on: July 07, 2018, 07:56:29 PM »
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« on: July 07, 2018, 06:08:46 PM »
Slowly rub her pusy yes she's like it ; )
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« on: July 07, 2018, 05:34:28 PM »
I've been here for too fucking long. That's not my Original join date btw.
This is a zombie account.
liar
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« on: July 07, 2018, 02:14:12 PM »
I'm surprised that nobody brought this up yet, but veganism is not a perfect solution. Veganism saves animals at the cost of killing plants. Well, so what is the problem with this? The problem is that we showing preference for animals over plants. Reason why it`s acceptable is that plants are harder to extinquish than animals and we extinquished quite a lot of animals in the past, but that doesn`t mean that plants are impossible to extinquish and world is not set in stone. There might come time when we have to kill animals in order to save plants, which brings me to second point:
Being vegan or not being vegan is fine as long as you don`t extinquish either animals or plants.
We just happen to live in time when animals are closer to dying than plants.
How the hell are we gonna extinguish plants we literally grow them. Cows, pigs, and chickens are also nowhere near extinction.
Oh, thats not that hard if there will be much much more animals. In fact, some forests on our planet are already gone due to people cutting them to gain money for example and build there some stuff on it`s place.
Deforestation doesn't have have much to do with growing fruits and vegetables. In fact a lot of it is hydroponic these days. Also I told you already you're using ` instead of '. It's two different symbols with different meanings. I won't knock on the fact that you have trouble constructing a sentence in English but it's like you don't give a fuck that you're doing it wrong.
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« on: July 07, 2018, 01:54:06 PM »
You're ignoring that there is no magical button though. It's nothing that couldn't be invented.
It depends on what you define as killing off everything. If by that we mean to kill of every single person, animal or plant, we can just continuosly nuke same place over and over again until our nukes reach magnetic core of Earth and disrupt it, which cause magnetic field of Earth to dissapear and everything to die from radiation sooner or later, well almost everything. Some things will survive and adapt to new conditions. It`s however, a temporary solution, it probably be enough to put our planet down long enough until Sun explode or whatever happens to it.
Well, we might create a black hole, but it`s unreliable solution either, because no one knows how it works. I can only say that living or being in it, if it`s possible, will be different from your or any other human definition of word "living" or "being" so that accomplishes goal of destroying everything living.
Life isn't anime
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« on: July 07, 2018, 01:51:40 PM »
I'm surprised that nobody brought this up yet, but veganism is not a perfect solution. Veganism saves animals at the cost of killing plants. Well, so what is the problem with this? The problem is that we showing preference for animals over plants. Reason why it`s acceptable is that plants are harder to extinquish than animals and we extinquished quite a lot of animals in the past, but that doesn`t mean that plants are impossible to extinquish and world is not set in stone. There might come time when we have to kill animals in order to save plants, which brings me to second point:
Being vegan or not being vegan is fine as long as you don`t extinquish either animals or plants.
We just happen to live in time when animals are closer to dying than plants.
How the hell are we gonna extinguish plants we literally grow them. Cows, pigs, and chickens are also nowhere near extinction.
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« on: July 07, 2018, 12:19:30 PM »
My perfect utopia is never going to exist, which gives us a free pass to be greedy, avaricious scum. No, it's that you act like the world is either complete trash or it has to be a utopia. It's a deep flaw in society that should not be the consumer's job to fix. Agreed, devs should have much larger profit margins. Oh my god, you're right. That makes it so much fucking better! I LOVE DLC now! My point being you're blaming the devs when it's usually Activision and Microsoft pushing this shit. How many mission campaigns were in the base game of the first Ghost Recon? 15 I think Free DLC doesn't really count, obviously. It sucks that you only get it free on an inferior platform, though. lmao ODST being its own game was the right decision, only it should've been priced accordingly. The fact that games tend to be $59.99 across the board nowadays is completely fucking asinine. Well now we're jumping into a different topic. But I shouldn't be the one doing it. Who the hell is gonna pay them, then? Are they supposed to just get money for free? They have to make and sell their product, that's how it works. No, it's abused 99% of the time. You have to be so foolish to believe that the vast majority of game developers and publishers don't make plans for DLC very early into development. None of them are angels who would only think to add DLC after the game is already released and fairly successful. That's the real dream world. So developers have found a way to make more money because game sales really don't make them that much. How horrible. So you're the problem. Maybe if games were less expensive to make these days, we wouldn't be in this position. Except it takes a big budget to push the envelope. You can make a great game for a few hundred bucks, but it's the same tired old 2D adventure. It gets old. Sounds good to me. Games were better decades ago anyway. "I'm fine with thousands of people being out of work and a thriving industry dying because some price adjustments need to be made" What? Where do you eat where pickles cost extra? You have to specifically tell them not to add pickles if you don't want pickles. It doesn't make the burger cheaper. You're paying less for an incomplete burger, but if you don't like pickles, you don't like pickles. There's burger joints that charge extra for onions, pickles etc. This is why the analogy is fucking dumb and doesn't work. These are different things we're talking about. There's no parity between ordering food and buying a video game. It's two different worlds. It works, you're just being hardheaded. The game is not complete until you have all the DLC. You can't get MORE complete than complete. That's not how English or logic works. Except it's a complete game. A car is complete when it's built, seat warmers and Bluetooth capabilities are extras. great more shitty food analogies 😴
You don't want every topping on a pizza, because that'll ruin the pizza. That's your opinion. Plenty of people like pizzas with a lot of toppings. Having every DLC package for a game won't ruin it. It'll COMPLETE it. You get a sense of completion—I have full access to EVERYTHING the game has to offer. It's complete. It's not more-than-complete, because there's no such thing as more-than-complete. It wasn't complete before you bought the DLC, and it lost "completed" status when they announced DLC after the game was released. The game that was once complete is now not complete anymore. Now you have to pay more.
That's how this works. DLC is an extra. It's not arbitrary at all, I've given numerous and detailed reasons for why I think the way I do, and you haven't been able to properly respond to anything so far. Just bad food analogies and simple quandaries that are easily answered with basic logic. But you still fail to refute even the most basic point I've made, that DLC's are extras and not necessary. There's everything wrong with it. Fuck them for forcing it on us, and fuck us for taking it up the ass. Again with the forcing. DLC is not necessary. All the more reason not to fucking bother. So you admit it isn't about greed. But I DO have to buy DLC if I want a complete experience.
Let's say I get Nioh, and I get it on a superior console platform where none of the expansions are free. I beat the game and I thoroughly enjoy it, it's a 9/10 and one of my new favorite games. I then discover that there's DLC, and I have people like you saying "So you liked the game then? Are you gonna get the DLC now? The DLC is awesome, you should buy ALL of them. So are you gonna do it? Huh? Huh? Huh?" Why would I pester you to buy the DLC if I know you can't afford it? It cheapens the experience. It's not complete anymore, knowing there's SO MUCH content that I'm missing out on that I'll never get to play because of developer greed. There is absolutely no justification for this whatsoever, when back in the day, you never had to worry about any of this. You could just unlock everything for free through gameplay, and the entire game was in your hands. Back in the day we just probably would've never had the content. Remember unlocking shit? There was a time when you could unlock stuff in video games, for free, through gameplay. I don't know if it's because you're too young to remember, but that's how video games were. It was a better time, and I'll destroy the current state of the game industry to go back to that. wtf nigga we're the same age And I never said I don't tip. It's a fucking FACT that I shouldn't have to, and I'll scream it from the mountaintops. But I just don't go to restaurants. I mean, obviously. Where would I eat? It shouldn't be my fucking job to pay you for the work you do. I'm sorry. So I'm never ever going to do it. You are paying for the work the chef does, the rent, the cost of upkeep, payroll, everything. That's what goes into pricing the food at a restaurant. Same thing with DLC for video games. I'm never buying it, you don't have to tell me not to. It's decided. Everyone should follow me on this if they're smart. No it isn't smart. Don't buy bad DLC that's overpriced. Good DLC is a way for us to get more content they'll never make and put in the game before launch. You were sold an incomplete product, tough shit that's life. Yeah okay, I guess I'll just take that sitting down. You act like you're being screwed out of something. You're not. You should be. You're a victim, and I sympathize with you. No, I shouldn't be, because that's childish behavior. I'm a victim of what lmao? Because people are FUCKING MORONS who don't realize that this is all their fault. It's their doing. If they didn't support horse armor DLC twelve years ago, we wouldn't be here right now. No one is allowed to be upset except for me, because I saw the writing on the wall from the beginning. A lot of us saw this coming. There's just a lot of people who seem to have no problem with microtransactions. Fallout 4's creator club wasn't horse armor "all over again." Horse armor is something we've not only endured, not only accepted, but normalized. The fact that anyone could ever be pissed about anything DLC-related these days is pigshit because that's what the ENTIRE INDUSTRY revolves around these days, and it's our fault for causing it. I agree. But there's not really anything we can do. Fuck anyone who got upset at that who doesn't also hate the entire industry like I do, since the very beginning. There's no need to be an extremist. Literally all of them. Proof? But you DO need them, if you want to complete the game. Complete what? What is this obsession with completion? There are fighting games that have you pay for characters. You have to pay to have a full roster of playable characters. Are you seriously going to tell me that it's possible to have a complete fighting game if you don't have every fighter available to you? No, that's bullshit. But it doesn't mean video games should be nuked. Why are you giving me advice? Did this conversation not already start with me saying that I'm never buying DLC again? Why do you feel the need to tell me this? I'm telling you to buy good DLC. I can and I will, because they all are and I'd like it if they starved and died. They're not, they're just trying to make some money like everybody else. Waiting until they can make another game (if they even get the go ahead and the funding) is ridiculous.
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« on: July 07, 2018, 10:02:14 AM »
Fuck I decided to check cause why not...Ive been registered here since Jan 2015...wtf is this suffering
alternatively, that's why i'm not logged on here motherfucker aussie spongebob backwater forum
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« on: July 07, 2018, 07:21:06 AM »
Wrong thread
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« on: July 07, 2018, 07:17:18 AM »
Where do you get these from?
I write them. It's a little thing called having a brain.
Yeah your brain is a little thing
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« on: July 07, 2018, 06:50:36 AM »
Verbatim never has any real solution apart from kill everybody and everything.
mainly because there is no other solution
It's a cop-out.
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« on: July 07, 2018, 06:49:19 AM »
Only I'm going a step further than you and saying that the concept of a "living" shouldn't exist. The fact that it does it the real problem. This utopia you're dreaming of is never going to exist, and if it does it'll be long after we're dead. It's pretty tiresome that you rely on this and use it as a crutch in very argument. If you want to step into the world of art, don't come in with dollar signs in your eyes. Otherwise, what you're making barely qualifies as art, and there's absolutely no chance of me ever supporting anything you do or create. And if I do, it was because I was duped, because that's the game developers have to play in our capitalist system. I don't understand why art and money are mutually exclusive to you and you're acting like money is disgusting and below art. I guarantee you all the great artists who died poor and have their art selling for millions in snooty art galleries would've preferred to have had that money while they were alive. The term "starving artist" isn't a badge of honor, it's a criticism of a deep flaw within our society where we don't value art enough and don't encourage it so artists can be successful and also make a living. Because it's immoral as fuck. You can't just take advantage of people like that and call yourself a good, honest person who deserves to make money doing what he loves. A lot of these decisions to sell gun skins etc aren't made by the people who actually even make the game most of the time, it's usually the suits around who say "hey this is making money we should do it too". Name a good DLC that is priced fairly. None exist, only what you thought was worth it. It probably wasn't, especially if it was more than $5. lmao so you're basically just gonna ask me questions and then answer them yourself in your own post. There's plenty of DLC that's worth it. Way back to the first Ghost Recon, Desert Storm and Island Thunder were true expansions packs with like 8+ mission campaigns and new multiplayer maps with new weapons. Or just recently Nioh, which has 3 great expansion packs with a ton of work put into them which I might add were free for those of us who bought it on Steam. But that's the developer's choice, or sometimes it's out of their hands. Like Bungie who got forced by Microsoft to make ODST into another (half ass) game when it would've been awesome as DLC. Because it shouldn't be your primary focus. It shouldn't even be your secondary focus. If an artist were told that he could never make money off of his art again, a true artist wouldn't be discouraged by that. He'd continue making art, because that's what he does. "a true artist" Or maybe realizing he'd starve to death would have to put his artistic talents to the side while he does something else for money. Of course artists still want to create art even if they won't get paid, the point is they should be. Most game developers would quit, and those who would quit are the ones I don't want in the industry anyway. And if the industry would die without those people, then so be it. Fuck it all, let's just build a new industry off of independent game developers and hobbyists. I've been looking into playing some indie games anyway. "BURN EVERYTHING DOWN BECAUSE DLC IS ABUSED SOMETIMES" Yeah no offense to indie developers because they make great games on a limited budget, but I like big budget games. I don't see why the video game industry should be destroyed and reduced to sidescrollers because you now have an unfounded hatred for DLC. I mean, by this logic, all games should be free too. In which case nobody would ever make money so it'd be like 10 years until a game comes out and it'd drive the industry back decades. There'd be no new consoles, no controllers, no innovation of any kind. You just repeated yourself. I don't buy the analogy, come up with something different. Food and video games are way too different, because people are going to have different ideas of what they want to have on their cheeseburger.
If I want a plain cheeseburger, then the plain cheeseburger I get is what I paid for. That's the completed product. If they add extra shit I don't want, then I'm returning it. Likewise, if I actually DO want extra shit, and they forget the pickles or whatever the fuck, then they sold me an incomplete product. So we agree. The video game at launch is simply a cheeseburger, pickles cost extra. Some places give you pickles for free, but that's up to them. The past of me is about dietary shit, I don't want a whole new industry anyway. And you had the entire cheeseburger for free. When I buy a game, I'm under the impression that I'm going to be able to play the entire experience. And to me, if DLC doesn't come with, then it's not complete. How could it be? There's several hours worth of content that I'm missing out on, that I can't play, unless I pay extra. That's so fucking stupid. It's content they worked on after completing the game. It doesn't come included because it is EXTRA CONTENT. Hahaha holy shit how are you not getting this. Where do you draw the line? There has to be a point where you realize the game isn't complete without the DLC. There's no line to draw. It's literally extra content. It's like saying the cheese pizza you ordered should have every topping on it for free. It cost the pizza place money to stock pepperoni, why the hell should they give it to you for free? I draw the line at DLC, because any other line you draw is going to be completely arbitrary and based on personal whim. What's so bad about releasing a complete game with no DLC? What's wrong with that? Why can't they just do that? Why do they need more money out of me? YOU are the one drawing arbitrary lines based on a whim hahaha what the fuck is this. There's no way this is you arguing, you have to be parroting someone else just for argument's sake. They haven't made the DLC yet, that's why it's not on the game. They want more money and there's nothing wrong with that. It's the point for me, I'm not terribly interested in whatever your point is honestly. Find another fucking job if you don't think you're getting paid enough, because I'm not paying you extra. I shouldn't have to, so I never fucking will, from the day I posted that forward. And if people are smart, they'll follow suit. Because I'm talking about your point. They don't make that much more profit on DLC. You don't have to buy DLC, you do have to tip unless you're an insane asshole. Not tipping a waiter isn't gonna change the world and have their boss start paying them more. That's ridiculous. Do you have any idea how much that wouldn't work? Like at all? Correct, and that's been the model for the past twelve-odd years. Games stopped being completed the moment the first ever DLC was created. Wrong. DLC is extra content, you don't need to buy it. If you can't afford it, tough shit that's life. I couldn't buy almost any DLC for years, you don't see me complaining. You don't see me saying the entire industry should bend and warp to my every complaint and want. Remember when Oblivion's horse armor came out, and everyone hated it and thought it was the stupidest fucking waste of money ever? That's been normalized. People eat that shit up, now. It's not just accepted, but highly encouraged. What the fuck? Did you not see the backlash the Fallout 4 Creator Club got and how people were saying it's Oblivion horse armor all over again? No, the golden years were when you could buy a game for the PS2 and you'd never have to pay anything extra for it. A quick $50 payment for some game, like Ratchet & Clank, and you had to pay for fuck else. And you had the entire game, right there in your hands. You never had to worry about playing anything else, except for sequels, but if you liked the game enough, you're gonna buy the next one anyway. And you know it's gonna be worth it, because it's a whole new game.
Now everything is fucked. You're lucky if you're not spending $100 on a game you're into just to make sure you're not missing any of the extra content. Absolutely unacceptable.
lol There is literally nothing wrong with DLC. Unless it's a shady developer that puts good ideas on pause to be sold as DLC later, most (good) games come out with a ton of content. I never feel like I NEED DLC for any game I own. There's like 4 DLC expansions for ARMA 3 I don't have and they're overpriced garbage. I could make better missions myself in a few hours on the editor or even download some for free on the Workshop. If you see DLC like that, simply don't buy it and don't show any support for it, or buy it on sale. That's the only way to make sure we get good DLC that's priced fairly. This is simple shit, I shouldn't have to tell you this. You can't blame all DLC because some devs are greedy.
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« on: July 07, 2018, 06:04:54 AM »
Verbatim never has any real solution apart from kill everybody and everything.
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« on: July 06, 2018, 05:31:55 PM »
Yes, fuck them. They don't do it for free—the games are already $60, and I don't care how much of a tiny fraction they actually make off of game sales. If they don't make enough, they can work somewhere else. And they'll hate it, but that's life. I'm not going to have a discussion with you when you're just playing devil's advocate. People that believe this are dumbasses. Everybody deserves to be able to make a living, THAT'S life. I don't want to make a living off of writing. I hate that I live in a world where you must make a living to begin with. People should just be able to live, period, and do whatever they want. That's not how it works. In any case, I care more about the consumer. It pisses me off to see people get practically stolen from when they buy shit products, because they're the people who are actually working real jobs, doing real things. How is the consumer being screwed? If it's good DLC that's priced fairly, what's the problem? "Preying" on dumbass people who buy gun skins is a myth and the only people to blame are the consumers. Why shouldn't people make money off of stupidity? Making video games is not something we need, so I don't view it as a real career. I wouldn't view my writing career as a real career, either, especially since I wouldn't be doing it for the money. I'd be doing it for the art, and that's the only reason any artist should ever want to make anything. We absolutely do need entertainment. That's how life works. There's nothing wrong with being passionate about what you do and wanting to make money, too. It's a product, why should it be exempt from having monetary value because it's art? Says who? Why can't I say you're wrong about that? Maybe a cheeseburger DOES need to have all of those things.
Either way, video games and food are different. Because a cheeseburger is just that, meat, cheese, and buns. Pickles are basically DLC. Fucking sucks ass for them, then. I'm against tipping for the same exact reason, too. Maybe they should get paid more in general. Why the fuck do honest regular working people have to pick up the tab for them? That's bullshit. Wow ok Tarantino. Hahaha come on dude that's not even the point. I agree devs should make more profits but it has nothing to do with DLC being free or not, because the profit margins aren't all that different. False, by definition of the word.
So a game on launch day is incomplete even if DLC hasn't been announced?
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« on: July 06, 2018, 04:22:22 PM »
they aren't obliged to
you make it if you want to
and if none of them ever want to because they know they won't make money off it anyway, then good, fuck them Fuck people who want to make money off something they created for you to enjoy? Why should they do it for free? Why are you dooming them to have to work somewhere else that they hate and not be able to make money off of games? Isn't this one of the things you hate the most about the world, about how (you think) you can't make a living off of writing? Why should DLC be free, apart from you basically saying you don't want to pay for it? lmao
If a game has DLC, it seizes to be a complete game until it's installed. You can't have a completed game be more than complete. That doesn't make any sense. Completed means finished, it's done. It's extra content. A cheeseburger is complete with meat and cheese. Ketchup, mustard, pickles, onions, peppers, and so on are extras. I don't care You should care, because you're acting like developers are these greedy assholes who who just want to screw us out of our money for no reason when they're the ones getting the shit end of the stick on profits. If you want to have a complete game, yes, you do.
Nope. The game is complete at launch. Any and all DLC released months later is extra content which you should absolutely pay for. Are a lot of DLC's overpriced? Sure, but that doesn't mean that they should all now be free because there are some greedy companies.
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« on: July 06, 2018, 03:55:50 PM »
>there are people who sit down on a computer to browse sep7
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« on: July 06, 2018, 03:22:26 PM »
Brazil will lose to Belgium.
Is this a joke
Haters absolutely getting fucked right now. GG Belgium going strong.
idiots automatically thinking Brazil are gonna win the world cup.
But clearly European teams are far superior.
📸
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« on: July 06, 2018, 03:20:36 PM »
Put finger slowly in her pusy she get ready for big fuck
hello i make big cums
sometimes three finger for her pusy make big mess
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« on: July 06, 2018, 02:00:19 PM »
Cool would it be trusted for threads insulting me bleeding vag ability
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