Halo fucking sucks and the fans should die in a fire

You watch and enjoy anime. Shut the fuck up.

Quote from: Vien on July 11, 2017, 06:13:12 AM

Kill me

later

first Gotham burns

I think I have likes 2,000 saves on Skyrim

Quote from: challengerX on July 10, 2017, 05:45:35 PM

Why would you have anything other than an American flag in your room?

Because that's lame and American flags are everywhere.

America is lame?

Dude it's just random bullshit

My only worry about Charlie is he'll blackmail me by threatening to release my private information if I post a gif in one of his threads

We're really dead now.

challengerx play halo  3 with me

now that it's backwards compatible we can play Halo 3 The Game

Quote from: Flee on July 09, 2017, 05:59:27 PM

Doesn't the same hold true for any game though? I don't care much about fighting games, but I think it's pretty well accepted that some characters just have higher potential and are harder to master than others.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean they're deliberately designed that way. Ryu in Street Fighter is designed to be basic and easy to learn, but mastery requires a lot of training—as with any other character in the game.

It's true that some characters are harder to master than others, but that's not deliberate—competitive games aren't supposed to be easy like that. It may be impossible to make a perfectly balanced roster of characters, but you can still try. If you could master a character in a day, because he has a low skill ceiling, that's not very good design. These kinds of games are meant to be much more intense and challenging than that.

Challenger is trying to tell me that the fact that there are weapons in Halo that are easier to master than others is just a function of arena shooters, and they're not meant to be well-designed. Of course I'm gonna take issue with that.

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How high a skill gap/cap is can also be kind of subjective. Think Quake for example. What takes the most skill or is the hardest to master: rail gun, grenade launcher or lightning gun?

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It's pretty impossible to pick out one that is harder or easier than the others.

(edit: nvm, seems like you already got that from your other post)

Yeah. And while I don't disagree that balance is a difficult thing to quantify for most games, I think Halo (as a whole) is a very blatant example of an unbalanced mess of a series, and I've played my fair share of Halo games with my friends to know that there is no balance whatsoever—especially Halo 2 (despite having the most fun with it).

Challenger himself admitted earlier that Needlers are low-skill weapons that are easy to use and master. In Halo 2, the needler was notoriously OP, especially because you could dual-wield them.

Halo 1 had the stupid pistol.

And if Halo 3 were balanced at all, challenger wouldn't be so keen on banning all weapons except for the BR. That's all I'm saying, and I really don't think it's that unreasonable. To say that the BR puts both players on a level playing field would be tacitly admitting that other weapons would throw that balance off, hence the game is unbalanced. And therefore bad.

lmao I said to ban all power weapons because he was whining about me hogging the power weapons. It takes the most skill to 1v1 with just BR's and no ammo or grenades on the map, just what you get off the dead body.

What did you think I was saying?

Quote from: challengerX on July 09, 2017, 08:18:08 PM

I was playing a video game

me too

what Video Game did you play ?

I was playing a video game

nobody cares about your shitty opinions

Mine matter cause I'm not dumb.

every weapon needs to require as much skill to master as the other

it's how they should work

otherwise arena shooters are ALL bad

Woah

It's like I just told you nobody cares about emotionally charged shitty opinions. You done crying now?

which is a completely appropriate thing to do when stupid people start saying stupid shit

If I'm stupid then why are you active out if I'm predictably saying stupid shit?

Dumbass even your insults don't make sense

the majority of my posts have been substantiating why i think halo is shitty and boring, actually, and you haven't been able to respond to any of the points

in order to be a good game, every single weapon must take as much skill as the battle rifle does to master, to a point where you would never want to play a game with battle rifles only

the fact that you'd ever want to play a game with BRs only pretty much proves by itself that it's a bad and boring game, because you're actually removing tools from the game to make it more competitive

That's not how old school arena type shooters are at all. That's why I'm saying you're ignorant and you have no idea how shooters work. The weapons sandbox has balance by having weaker and stronger weapons. That's how shooters like Halo function. This is basic shit.

Fuck it. This thread is now a Verbatim vs Chally thread on why Halo 3 is a shit game or not a shit game.

Let the discussion continue!

I'm out for the day. Later faggots.

thanks I was waiting for your permission

Quote from: challengerX on July 09, 2017, 03:10:22 PM

"this game is bad because I say it is"

Woah another intelligent post from ya boy verbatim

The game is bad because I gave my reasons and you don't have a response to them.

I gave you my responses. You're just too much of a fucking stubborn mule to ever concede anything in a discussion. You immediately go to insult me and try to put me down over a conversation on a video game.

You know damn well you wouldn't speak to me or anybody else like that face to face, so stop acting like your parents didn't bring you up right and show a little respect.

Halo is balanced, get the fuck over it.