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« on: October 13, 2018, 02:59:51 PM »
I don't want to get into big discussion over what moderates actually are. The crux of my argument was based on swing voters which a lot of moderates are. It doesn't really matter what constitutes a moderate, there are still people who will vote either way and you don't convince those people by acting uncivil towards them.
”It doesn’t really matter that I’m wrong, I still think I’m right”
My whole point was that there are people who will vote either way and the left shouldn't be insulting to them. I wasn't trying to argue over what is or is not a moderate. I was only using it as a descriptor for people torn between the two parties.
I don't understand why you want me to admit I was wrong about what a moderate is so much, when I never even implied my idea of what a moderate is was the only right one. I don't even have a very specific idea of what constitutes being politically moderate. It was just a general term I used for people who aren't strictly partisan. Flee's idea is almost certainly way more thought out and refined than mine, and I'm not gonna act like I know enough to tell him he's wrong, especially because I was never trying to argue over what a moderate actually is.
My whole argument in the second half of this thread was never once, "I know what moderates actually are." It was always, "these types of people exist, regardless of how we want to label them, and we shouldn't attack them as voters "
I don't know how much more clear I can be than that. If you still want to attribute some sort of attitude to me that I don't actually have then I don't know what else to say.
You should know what a moderate is when you’re saying a large amount of them voted for a guy who is extremely partisan and trash talks all his opposition. You’re only pointing out the flaws in your argument by continuing this notion that level headed intelligent people voted for trump. This isn’t to say people that voted for Hillary are inherently more intelligent, but there is obviously a clear cut difference here and you’re pretending it doesn’t exist.
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« on: October 13, 2018, 12:18:08 PM »
>(0 buddies)
483
« on: October 13, 2018, 12:16:00 PM »
I don't want to get into big discussion over what moderates actually are. The crux of my argument was based on swing voters which a lot of moderates are. It doesn't really matter what constitutes a moderate, there are still people who will vote either way and you don't convince those people by acting uncivil towards them.
”It doesn’t really matter that I’m wrong, I still think I’m right”
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« on: October 12, 2018, 05:27:51 PM »
I’d hardly consider every Trump voter a radical. If you remember back to 2016, basically all the Trump supporters on this website were just a bunch of floodposters that wouldn’t ever respond when challenged on it. That’s basically how I view a large chunk of his voters: they may not necessarily agree with him or know why they voted for him, they just did it anyways.
Yeah... that’s what makes people radicals. Uninformed and quick to jump to conclusions on issues they know nothing about. They base all their opinions on emotion.
This is some shit
Shut your faggot ass up boy. Dumbass motherfucker
Thank you
If you don’t think people who support a man who puts children in cages and denies scientifically proven climate change are radicals, I really don’t know what to tell you. Apart from calling you a dumbass motherfucker.
Yeah... that’s what makes people radicals. Uninformed and quick to jump to conclusions on issues they know nothing about. They base all their opinions on emotion.
It’s cute how badly you want to participate in this discussion but you just don’t have the brainpower. I’ll pray for you 🙏
You seem to be reacting emotionally an awful lot there Chally.
Not really, I’m just talking shit to you and laughing at you. I never said there anything wrong with reacting emotionally at anything, the problem arises when you vote for someone out of emotion. Reactionary politics and voting on certain issues because you’re misinformed and buy into manufactured outrage. Like voting for trump thinking he’s gonna build a wall. You’d understand this if you weren’t such a blithering moron.
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« on: October 12, 2018, 04:30:06 PM »
qunem gyot berant
Speak English, towelhead.
486
« on: October 12, 2018, 04:27:10 PM »
I’d hardly consider every Trump voter a radical. If you remember back to 2016, basically all the Trump supporters on this website were just a bunch of floodposters that wouldn’t ever respond when challenged on it. That’s basically how I view a large chunk of his voters: they may not necessarily agree with him or know why they voted for him, they just did it anyways.
Yeah... that’s what makes people radicals. Uninformed and quick to jump to conclusions on issues they know nothing about. They base all their opinions on emotion.
This is some shit
Shut your faggot ass up boy. Dumbass motherfucker
Thank you
If you don’t think people who support a man who puts children in cages and denies scientifically proven climate change are radicals, I really don’t know what to tell you. Apart from calling you a dumbass motherfucker.
Yeah... that’s what makes people radicals. Uninformed and quick to jump to conclusions on issues they know nothing about. They base all their opinions on emotion.
It’s cute how badly you want to participate in this discussion but you just don’t have the brainpower. I’ll pray for you 🙏
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« on: October 12, 2018, 12:22:23 PM »
People like Challenger who have no ability to comprehend why some people may see things differently and then characterize them as stupid sheep who are beneath him is ironically funny and already have their answers if they would bother to look in a mirror
Trump voters literally are stupid sheep. You’re voting for some rich kid who wasted all of his dads money and failed in everything he tried to do, and he’s working for the Russians. He’s not some average joe who became president.
Beyond that I don’t give a fuck what you “think” about.
Trump is worth 3.5 billion, how exactly has he wasted all his Daddy's money and failed at everything he does? He became the fucking president by running a joke campaign.
LOL
Why do you think he’s a puppet for the Russians dumbass. He went to them for money after nobody else would loan him any.
He's worth 5.3 billion, he doesn't need a small loan of a million dollars.
Wow 1.8 billion overnight absolutely based
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« on: October 12, 2018, 12:21:31 PM »
I’d hardly consider every Trump voter a radical. If you remember back to 2016, basically all the Trump supporters on this website were just a bunch of floodposters that wouldn’t ever respond when challenged on it. That’s basically how I view a large chunk of his voters: they may not necessarily agree with him or know why they voted for him, they just did it anyways.
Yeah... that’s what makes people radicals. Uninformed and quick to jump to conclusions on issues they know nothing about. They base all their opinions on emotion.
This is some shit
Shut your faggot ass up boy. Dumbass motherfucker
Thank you
If you don’t think people who support a man who puts children in cages and denies scientifically proven climate change are radicals, I really don’t know what to tell you. Apart from calling you a dumbass motherfucker.
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« on: October 12, 2018, 01:56:16 AM »
People like Challenger who have no ability to comprehend why some people may see things differently and then characterize them as stupid sheep who are beneath him is ironically funny and already have their answers if they would bother to look in a mirror
Trump voters literally are stupid sheep. You’re voting for some rich kid who wasted all of his dads money and failed in everything he tried to do, and he’s working for the Russians. He’s not some average joe who became president.
Beyond that I don’t give a fuck what you “think” about.
Trump is worth 3.5 billion, how exactly has he wasted all his Daddy's money and failed at everything he does? He became the fucking president by running a joke campaign.
LOL
Why do you think he’s a puppet for the Russians dumbass. He went to them for money after nobody else would loan him any.
No one has found connection with Trump and the Russians. Don't believe in mainstrean media propaganda.
eat my shorts
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« on: October 11, 2018, 09:56:31 PM »
People like Challenger who have no ability to comprehend why some people may see things differently and then characterize them as stupid sheep who are beneath him is ironically funny and already have their answers if they would bother to look in a mirror
Trump voters literally are stupid sheep. You’re voting for some rich kid who wasted all of his dads money and failed in everything he tried to do, and he’s working for the Russians. He’s not some average joe who became president.
Beyond that I don’t give a fuck what you “think” about.
Trump is worth 3.5 billion, how exactly has he wasted all his Daddy's money and failed at everything he does? He became the fucking president by running a joke campaign.
LOL Why do you think he’s a puppet for the Russians dumbass. He went to them for money after nobody else would loan him any.
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« on: October 11, 2018, 09:55:10 PM »
I’d hardly consider every Trump voter a radical. If you remember back to 2016, basically all the Trump supporters on this website were just a bunch of floodposters that wouldn’t ever respond when challenged on it. That’s basically how I view a large chunk of his voters: they may not necessarily agree with him or know why they voted for him, they just did it anyways.
Yeah... that’s what makes people radicals. Uninformed and quick to jump to conclusions on issues they know nothing about. They base all their opinions on emotion.
This is some shit
Shut your faggot ass up boy. Dumbass motherfucker
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« on: October 11, 2018, 08:31:00 PM »
it's hard for me to imagine someone not doing this, to where i'd be inclined to believe that someone who claims that they don't is either lying, or they just don't understand what it means to have an inner voice, because it wasn't explained to them properly—they might be interpreting the question as "do you hear voices" or "are you schizophrenic" or something
i even listen to music in my head, which is why i never found it necessary to get an mp3 player or anything like that as a kid—and to this day, i still think listening to music with your phone is a little strange—because what's the point if i can just play back any song i want in my head at will
"anyone who doesnt agree with me is lying", classic
your drug addled brain is incapable of thought
493
« on: October 11, 2018, 04:40:45 PM »
People like Challenger who have no ability to comprehend why some people may see things differently and then characterize them as stupid sheep who are beneath him is ironically funny and already have their answers if they would bother to look in a mirror
Trump voters literally are stupid sheep. You’re voting for some rich kid who wasted all of his dads money and failed in everything he tried to do, and he’s working for the Russians. He’s not some average joe who became president.
Beyond that I don’t give a fuck what you “think” about.
Maybe they’re just tired of people like you telling them everything is their fault for being white
FUCKING LOL This is why I never discuss anything on here anymore. It’s like every single time you have to state who you are and what you stand for, what your general views are. I don’t know why you guys have such a short memory. This was always one of the main points I’d bring up with leftists on this site that you’re pushing people to become radical with this anti white mentality. But above all of this, white people are just as culpable as the Jews are of living with a victim mentality and that everyone is out to get them. And you, fuckhead that you are, bought into this culture of victimhood too.
494
« on: October 11, 2018, 04:10:05 PM »
I’d hardly consider every Trump voter a radical. If you remember back to 2016, basically all the Trump supporters on this website were just a bunch of floodposters that wouldn’t ever respond when challenged on it. That’s basically how I view a large chunk of his voters: they may not necessarily agree with him or know why they voted for him, they just did it anyways.
Yeah... that’s what makes people radicals. Uninformed and quick to jump to conclusions on issues they know nothing about. They base all their opinions on emotion.
495
« on: October 11, 2018, 04:07:03 PM »
People like Challenger who have no ability to comprehend why some people may see things differently and then characterize them as stupid sheep who are beneath him is ironically funny and already have their answers if they would bother to look in a mirror
Trump voters literally are stupid sheep. You’re voting for some rich kid who wasted all of his dads money and failed in everything he tried to do, and he’s working for the Russians. He’s not some average joe who became president. Beyond that I don’t give a fuck what you “think” about.
496
« on: October 11, 2018, 02:53:13 PM »
Well, yeah. Proof of it is that people think in their own language.
497
« on: October 11, 2018, 02:49:09 PM »
All I ever heard Trump talking about in his campaign was, "Jobs jobs jobs," and , "we need better immigration control." Well maybe you should’ve listened a little harder. You would’ve heard the vile shit he promised he was going to do, and has done now that he’s president. Which a huge percentage of the population obviously cares about or they wouldn't have voted for him. What makes an issue populist if not being something that a giant portion of the average population cares about? You can have both left populist ideas like healthcare for all, or right populist ideas like stronger immigration laws. Because appealing to people’s hatred and fear isn’t populism. Bernie was a populist, trump is masquerading as one. I don't want to get into how awful Trump is and how vile everyone who voted for him is. Whatever idea you have of half of this country isn't something I'm gonna change anytime soon and it's not really useful to the point I was making. Oh ok. So we’re just supposed to discuss this within your frame of reality and I can’t bring up any counterpoints to your argument because you simply don’t want me to. Not to mention you just delete my entire post and quote me reiterating your previous post ad nauseam, avoiding my questions completely without providing specific answers for anything. Instead, you’re trying to preach to me how I need to hold hands with people who hate me and somehow that will repair the country. All I'm trying to say is that there are people who voted for Trump who will vote the other way, Democrats need to appeal to those people, and they aren't going to do it by being insulting to them. So why did they all vote for trump instead of Hillary? And I never said anybody should be insulted. My question is with the low turnout last election and trump barely scraping by, how exactly does that lead you to believe that democrats need to appeal to trump voters and not the disenfranchised democratic voters that didn’t vote last election? If all you want to reply back to that now is, "every Trump voter is far right," then I don't really have anything else to discuss here.
You don’t have anything you want to discuss at all. You have no idea what you’re talking about, so you’re trying to play the role of the intelligent centrist looking down on us pitiful people who have real opinions.
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« on: October 11, 2018, 02:22:34 PM »
Maybe for Bernie, but he was so weak
How exactly was he weak? From what I've seen he ran a really respectable campaign and seemed much "stronger" than Clinton.
Personally I lost all respect for him when he let those two fatass BLM girls take the mic from him at one of his speeches.
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« on: October 11, 2018, 02:08:52 PM »
Saying that absolutely no one who voted for Trump would have voted for Hillary is an absolute. So why didn’t they? Why did they all vote for trump? My point about moderates is based on the fact that swing voters exist, and traditionally always have. Both sides are moving away from each other and the percentage of swing voters is declining, but they still count. Trump was able to sway a lot of them to his side when he embraced a populist campaign. LOL The crazy shit he was saying was not populist. He was appealing to bigoted and fearful whites, which this country is full of. That’s how he won, as well as self hating minorities that want to be white. I'm not trying to say Hillary would've been able to win somehow by swaying swing voters. I think she was an awful candidate with way too much controversial baggage, and she made a huge mistake by insulting voters and playing the game of identity politics. What I'm saying is the left needs a candidate that can actually attract moderates.
Where were all these moderates when trump was elected? How can you look at trump as a “moderate” and say hmm, this guy is better than Hillary.
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« on: October 11, 2018, 01:32:08 PM »
I never said the country wasn't growing more partisan, but just because society is becoming more polarized doesn't mean there aren't still millions of moderates that will vote either way. And you’re basing this on what, exactly? You're dealing in absolutes which is just foolish. I’m not dealing in anything, this is the way America has been for a decade now. Maybe only a small number of people that voted for Trump would have voted for Hillary if she had held a better campaign, but I'm willing to bet that a whole lot more Trump voters would've voted Democrat if they had a better candidate than the two awful ones we ended up with. But again, this has nothing to with Hillary. She bullied her way into being the candidate. THAT I’ll agree drove more people to vote for trump. But again, I doubt many of them would’ve voted for Bernie.
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« on: October 11, 2018, 12:41:17 PM »
People aren't going to consider themselves the exception when you degrade them for very specific actions, like supporting a movement or candidate. One of the main reasons Hillary's basket of deplorables comment was so damaging for her. You insult voters for who they're considering to vote for and it certainly isn't going to bring them over to your side, especially when your opponent is painting you as a condescending elitist. If Trump insulted average citizens then he made a big gamble in doing so and he's lucky it didn't backfire on him badly.
I don't know what candidate this country needs right now. I don't know much about this Avenatti guy besides him being a lawyer who is highly opposed to Trump. I just know that the next democratic candidate needs to appeal to the average citizen the way Trump was able to by embracing issues the average american citizen actually cares about (hopefully genuinely) instead of playing the game of identity politics, and they need to avoid upsetting the millions of voters who are currently torn over supporting a party that is perceived as elitist and uncaring of the working class.
Those people were never gonna vote for her. You’re just constantly talking out of your ass here and it’s sickening. There is no reasoning with these people. These are the same people that believe she’s part of a pedophile ring with kids in kept in pizza store basements.
Staunch Trump supports were never going to vote for Hillary, but I thought I made it pretty obvious that I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about the millions of moderates that actually gave Trump the advantage. The people that will vote either way depending on the candidate. Not everyone in this country is so strictly partisan.
You’re blind if you can’t see just how partisan America has been since Obama was elected. Nobody that voted for trump was ever going to vote for Hillary. Maybe for Bernie, but he was so weak and had such leftist ideals it would have never worked out in a million years.
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« on: October 11, 2018, 12:03:06 PM »
People aren't going to consider themselves the exception when you degrade them for very specific actions, like supporting a movement or candidate. One of the main reasons Hillary's basket of deplorables comment was so damaging for her. You insult voters for who they're considering to vote for and it certainly isn't going to bring them over to your side, especially when your opponent is painting you as a condescending elitist. If Trump insulted average citizens then he made a big gamble in doing so and he's lucky it didn't backfire on him badly.
I don't know what candidate this country needs right now. I don't know much about this Avenatti guy besides him being a lawyer who is highly opposed to Trump. I just know that the next democratic candidate needs to appeal to the average citizen the way Trump was able to by embracing issues the average american citizen actually cares about (hopefully genuinely) instead of playing the game of identity politics, and they need to avoid upsetting the millions of voters who are currently torn over supporting a party that is perceived as elitist and uncaring of the working class.
Those people were never gonna vote for her. You’re just constantly talking out of your ass here and it’s sickening. There is no reasoning with these people. These are the same people that believe she’s part of a pedophile ring with kids in kept in pizza store basements.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 10:37:13 PM »
You have to download an app to redeem a digital prize from a box of crackerjacks.
504
« on: October 09, 2018, 10:07:07 PM »
We need to tell women to step forward but step forward with evidence LOL
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:22:37 PM »
Please delete this thread
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:21:07 PM »
Ok
Just don't pretend as if you didn't already have your mind made up about the guy and you were actually hoping for evidence to change your mind to be presented during the course of this thing. The way you talk about Kavanaugh being a rich white kid, I swear you're on one of those SJW compilations
Because he is a rich white kid who started life on 3rd base.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:17:23 PM »
Also, false accusations aren't punished in the US. There's literally no consequences for ruining someone's life.
lying to the FBI isn’t a crime lmao perjury doesn’t exist
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:08:08 PM »
Just gunna step in to point out that the two people going ham in here aren't even American #notmyusa
Except I am American and live in LA, which is where I grew up. Even if I was fucking Chinese, who gives a shit? How does that invalidate my points?
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:05:55 PM »
He is a shame to jiu-jitsu for doing that disgusting act. The louder they bark, the shitful they are.
510
« on: October 09, 2018, 05:08:48 PM »
Which is absolutely irrelevant. The unimportant information her brain threw turns out to be vital if you want to actually put together a timeline and gather alibis for both parties How brain dead can you be? This is the same with kidnapping/mugging victims. You’re talking out of your ass if you think victims of violence are going to remember every detail. Republicans are just virtue signaling. They're trying to grant her credibility so they don't get completely mauled by the left. I'll just say it straight, I think she's lying Based on what? She was the first to say she’d be fine with an FBI investigation. False accusations would have her going to prison. Again, what are you basing your bullshit on?
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