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39931
« on: September 27, 2014, 04:50:04 PM »
It's true.
39932
« on: September 27, 2014, 04:35:21 PM »
And that teacher will loose their job. 1st Amendment violation. Rights even apply to students
Just enforcing the school policy.
I still don't understand why atheists can't just stand for 50 seconds and not say it. Just stand, thats it. But then again 90% of atheists are miserable assholes so....
I've never been religious, and I'd always say everything.
However, I'd rather it's changed because America is a secular state which focuses on freedom. I should have the freedom to not have to swear loyalty to something I don't believe in. I'm sure you'd feel the same way if you had to swear loyalty to Allah or Mahmad.
I 100% agree.
But why can't someone stand for our troops/country and not say the pledge.
Half my class wouldn't say the pledge and they would just stand and be quiet.
Not standing is just plain rude. If you don't like America that much, fuck off to somewhere else. My problem is just having to swear to god. Either way I'd say it because I'm not going to be a whiny little bitch, and I'm mostly swearing allegiance to my country.
39933
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:32:01 PM »
remove zesty
I bet you like it the sweet way.
Gotta remove fast.
39934
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:30:06 PM »
And that teacher will loose their job. 1st Amendment violation. Rights even apply to students
Just enforcing the school policy.
I still don't understand why atheists can't just stand for 50 seconds and not say it. Just stand, thats it. But then again 90% of atheists are miserable assholes so....
I've never been religious, and I'd always say everything. However, I'd rather it's changed because America is a secular state which focuses on freedom. I should have the freedom to not have to swear loyalty to something I don't believe in. I'm sure you'd feel the same way if you had to swear loyalty to Allah or Mahmad.
39935
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:19:59 PM »
remove zesty
39936
« on: September 27, 2014, 02:00:36 PM »
Hurr Durr In b5 PSU
fukn rekt m16a4
39937
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:58:48 PM »
inb4rocketpower
39938
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:57:03 PM »
Did I say "in all cases"? No.
Yes. "Anyone who disagrees" includes everyone who disagrees.
*sighs*
I was referring to THIS obvious thread, not every other issue ever -_-
But as I said, I got my fun out if it.
I'm done. Peace 
Darn. Foiled by the tricksy banterman again.
39939
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:53:02 PM »
Of course they are.
Is that your final answer?
*walks in holding bags of groceries*
.......why is there a game show in my house?
Spoiler They make choices like everyone else. DUH they are responsible!
Good shrek have mercy.
Alrighty, well let's do this properly rather than with rustling and le raeg feces.
Do you know/understand the concept of Compos Mentis?
Basically being of sound mind, I might not be using it 100% correctly in a legal sense but the term and the meaning is the point here. Being in control of your mental faculties, i.e not having your mind warped and twisted into thinking something abnormal.
I'll give a few examples.
A seemingly normal person living their life, suddenly decides to kill someone. Are they morally responsible for their actions? Well, first you have to figure out why they did it.
In case one, the person does it to cover up a secret that they don't want revealing.
In case two, the person has been hearing voices, hallucinating and has been convinced that the person they just killed was out to get them.
In case three, the person was bored and wanted to see what it would be like to kill someone.
1 - Morally responsible, guilty and is a piece of shit.
2 - Likely to be suffering from Acute Schizophrenia, this removes the choice from their actions as they are not made under proper circumstances but under a warped and flawed set of thinking borne of intensive fear.
3 - Chances are that this person is a Psychopath*, I'll come back to this one in a moment.
The reason the Schizophrenic is not morally responsible or fully legally responsible is because their mind is not right. They are ill and instead of receiving the treatment they needed, they slipped under the radar and ended up killing someone.
Do you blame a cancer patient for dying of cancer? Are they morally responsible for the tumour?
Of course they aren't, they can't help it if they are genetically predisposed to such a condition/ailment. The same applies to many people with severe mental illness, they don't choose to go crazy and kill someone - Their mental imbalances are out of their control and to assign moral responsibility and thus guilt to them for their subsequent actions is just downright wrong.
By no means is what they did alright, but it isn't their fault that they are ill. So instead of punishment for their 'crime' they will end up sectioned to a psychiatric hospital until they it is determined that they are no longer a threat to the public or themselves.
The tl;dr is that you cannot blame people for circumstances that are out of their control, mental illness falls under this category.
That being said, severity plays into this. Someone with an eating disorder murdering someone over 'normal' circumstances doesn't give them a get out of jail free card. The situation plays a very important role in determining responsibility.
But as a rule of thumb, Mentally ill people are not morally responsible for their actions as they are not in direct control of what they do.
EDIT: Whoops forgot the psychopath bit. I'll do that in a separate comment.
You took me serious and typed all that?
YOU FELL FOR MY TRAP CARD!
He didn't fall for anything. He showed you how wrong you were, you understood, and to save face you're acting you weren't serious the whole time.
Why people insist on being so prideful instead of just saying "I see, I guess I was wrong.", I have no idea. Especially when he wasn't being rude.
Then it seems I fooled you as well
You haven't fooled anybody.
You see, this is why I have no interest in being civil and having a discussion. You guys go full retard and act like jackasses no matter what.
Please, continue to pretend you tricked people and that people should either not take you seriously, or the fact that you will not listen to reason. Your move, they're both bad.
Your mad when I wasn't even trying to make you mad. That's just a bonus.
The OP makes the answer obvious, so you taking me seriously is just your mistake
So people aren't being serious in the Serious section. Gotcha.
39940
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:50:32 PM »
I just don't even know what to say anymore. A little more common sense from the dude, and the cop could've shot a taser while he had his back turned. If you're just gonna shoot anyway, might as well incapacitate him on the off chance he's holding a BB gun.
Mostly I blame the faggot that called the cops. "He's like pointing it at people". Well is he fucking pointing it and acting crazy or are you just a pussy? God fucking damn it. The world is just FULL of idiots.
39941
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:45:13 PM »
Why people insist on being so prideful instead of just saying "I see, I guess I was wrong.", I have no idea. Especially when he wasn't being rude.
I would say this bit puzzles me but it really doesn't.
It's very rare to see someone admit they were wrong or that they made a mistake online, but that applies to the real world too >.>
Indeed. It doesn't really puzzle me, it just baffles me how stubborn some people are over absolutely nothing.
39942
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:37:32 PM »
Of course they are.
Is that your final answer?
*walks in holding bags of groceries*
.......why is there a game show in my house?
Spoiler They make choices like everyone else. DUH they are responsible!
Good shrek have mercy.
Alrighty, well let's do this properly rather than with rustling and le raeg feces.
Do you know/understand the concept of Compos Mentis?
Basically being of sound mind, I might not be using it 100% correctly in a legal sense but the term and the meaning is the point here. Being in control of your mental faculties, i.e not having your mind warped and twisted into thinking something abnormal.
I'll give a few examples.
A seemingly normal person living their life, suddenly decides to kill someone. Are they morally responsible for their actions? Well, first you have to figure out why they did it.
In case one, the person does it to cover up a secret that they don't want revealing.
In case two, the person has been hearing voices, hallucinating and has been convinced that the person they just killed was out to get them.
In case three, the person was bored and wanted to see what it would be like to kill someone.
1 - Morally responsible, guilty and is a piece of shit.
2 - Likely to be suffering from Acute Schizophrenia, this removes the choice from their actions as they are not made under proper circumstances but under a warped and flawed set of thinking borne of intensive fear.
3 - Chances are that this person is a Psychopath*, I'll come back to this one in a moment.
The reason the Schizophrenic is not morally responsible or fully legally responsible is because their mind is not right. They are ill and instead of receiving the treatment they needed, they slipped under the radar and ended up killing someone.
Do you blame a cancer patient for dying of cancer? Are they morally responsible for the tumour?
Of course they aren't, they can't help it if they are genetically predisposed to such a condition/ailment. The same applies to many people with severe mental illness, they don't choose to go crazy and kill someone - Their mental imbalances are out of their control and to assign moral responsibility and thus guilt to them for their subsequent actions is just downright wrong.
By no means is what they did alright, but it isn't their fault that they are ill. So instead of punishment for their 'crime' they will end up sectioned to a psychiatric hospital until they it is determined that they are no longer a threat to the public or themselves.
The tl;dr is that you cannot blame people for circumstances that are out of their control, mental illness falls under this category.
That being said, severity plays into this. Someone with an eating disorder murdering someone over 'normal' circumstances doesn't give them a get out of jail free card. The situation plays a very important role in determining responsibility.
But as a rule of thumb, Mentally ill people are not morally responsible for their actions as they are not in direct control of what they do.
EDIT: Whoops forgot the psychopath bit. I'll do that in a separate comment.
You took me serious and typed all that?
YOU FELL FOR MY TRAP CARD!
He didn't fall for anything. He showed you how wrong you were, you understood, and to save face you're acting you weren't serious the whole time.
Why people insist on being so prideful instead of just saying "I see, I guess I was wrong.", I have no idea. Especially when he wasn't being rude.
Then it seems I fooled you as well
You haven't fooled anybody. You see, this is why I have no interest in being civil and having a discussion. You guys go full retard and act like jackasses no matter what. Please, continue to pretend you tricked people and that people should either not take you seriously, or the fact that you will not listen to reason. Your move, they're both bad.
39943
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:30:33 PM »
Of course they are.
Is that your final answer?
*walks in holding bags of groceries*
.......why is there a game show in my house?
Spoiler They make choices like everyone else. DUH they are responsible!
Good shrek have mercy.
Alrighty, well let's do this properly rather than with rustling and le raeg feces.
Do you know/understand the concept of Compos Mentis?
Basically being of sound mind, I might not be using it 100% correctly in a legal sense but the term and the meaning is the point here. Being in control of your mental faculties, i.e not having your mind warped and twisted into thinking something abnormal.
I'll give a few examples.
A seemingly normal person living their life, suddenly decides to kill someone. Are they morally responsible for their actions? Well, first you have to figure out why they did it.
In case one, the person does it to cover up a secret that they don't want revealing.
In case two, the person has been hearing voices, hallucinating and has been convinced that the person they just killed was out to get them.
In case three, the person was bored and wanted to see what it would be like to kill someone.
1 - Morally responsible, guilty and is a piece of shit.
2 - Likely to be suffering from Acute Schizophrenia, this removes the choice from their actions as they are not made under proper circumstances but under a warped and flawed set of thinking borne of intensive fear.
3 - Chances are that this person is a Psychopath*, I'll come back to this one in a moment.
The reason the Schizophrenic is not morally responsible or fully legally responsible is because their mind is not right. They are ill and instead of receiving the treatment they needed, they slipped under the radar and ended up killing someone.
Do you blame a cancer patient for dying of cancer? Are they morally responsible for the tumour?
Of course they aren't, they can't help it if they are genetically predisposed to such a condition/ailment. The same applies to many people with severe mental illness, they don't choose to go crazy and kill someone - Their mental imbalances are out of their control and to assign moral responsibility and thus guilt to them for their subsequent actions is just downright wrong.
By no means is what they did alright, but it isn't their fault that they are ill. So instead of punishment for their 'crime' they will end up sectioned to a psychiatric hospital until they it is determined that they are no longer a threat to the public or themselves.
The tl;dr is that you cannot blame people for circumstances that are out of their control, mental illness falls under this category.
That being said, severity plays into this. Someone with an eating disorder murdering someone over 'normal' circumstances doesn't give them a get out of jail free card. The situation plays a very important role in determining responsibility.
But as a rule of thumb, Mentally ill people are not morally responsible for their actions as they are not in direct control of what they do.
EDIT: Whoops forgot the psychopath bit. I'll do that in a separate comment.
You took me serious and typed all that?
YOU FELL FOR MY TRAP CARD!
He didn't fall for anything. He showed you how wrong you were, you understood, and to save face you're acting you weren't serious the whole time. Why people insist on being so prideful instead of just saying "I see, I guess I was wrong.", I have no idea. Especially when he wasn't being rude.
39944
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:04:14 PM »
Do you think its funny to tell someone to kill themselves online?
You really need to take a look in the mirror and reevaluate your life. Even if you are joking, its still not something you say.
I gotta agree with you here. It's very pathetic.
39945
« on: September 27, 2014, 09:11:10 AM »
Seriously, you really need to consider killing yourself. How many people legitimately love you right now? Your parents don't count. I don't think you have much to look forward to in life. get rekt m9
Are you Rose?
Sounds like kinder.
Yeah I'm thinking so because I got him banned.
39946
« on: September 27, 2014, 08:54:46 AM »
Nobody cares.
inb4 lol you do because you posted
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Apparently you cared enough to post.
I inb4'd you retard.
I don't care?
Apparently you cared enough to post.
I cared about argumenting, but not about your argument.
No, you care about me.
It's "arguing". Work on that English.
Just fuck already.
Nah, I'm having too much fun messing with him.
39947
« on: September 27, 2014, 08:46:27 AM »
Nobody cares.
inb4 lol you do because you posted
Apparently you cared enough to post.
I inb4'd you retard.
I don't care?
Apparently you cared enough to post.
I cared about argumenting, but not about your argument.
No, you care about me. It's "arguing". Work on that English.
39948
« on: September 27, 2014, 08:43:12 AM »
Seriously, you really need to consider killing yourself. How many people legitimately love you right now? Your parents don't count. I don't think you have much to look forward to in life. get rekt m9 Are you Rose?
39949
« on: September 27, 2014, 08:39:07 AM »
What is stopping me from shoving my hard throbbing cock down your little boy ass? LOL So I guess you're one of those gay pedophiles you were ranting about. FYI I'm not a kid, sorry to disappoint. 
39950
« on: September 27, 2014, 08:29:09 AM »
Atheists can be good people too, but on average they're not. I think that's the key distinction.
Most definitely.
Just yesterday I stoned a woman for talking out of turn (I didn't give her permission to talk you see) and then later I blew up a school because girls were attending it. Then I threw acid in the face of a 6 year old girl. Then I hit my dormmate in the head with a hammer because he's a homosexual. Spoiler Oh wait. That would be the shit you hear on the news that Theists do.
Muslims are less advanced than Christians so that doesn't really make a difference. On the topic of homosexuality, there seems to be a lot of gay pedophiles, so you really can't blame people for being upset with them over it. Proportional to the gay population, there are far more gay pedophiles than straight. And of course, it's simply God's will that homosexuality one of the deadly sins. We might not know why, but that doesn't make it any less of a sin to commit.
LOL You almost had me there for a minute. The username and Density avatar had me suspicious but all that sin talk gave you away.
Are you trying to say I'm a troll for saying what billions of people believe? Figures, it's so much easier to just say someone's a troll than to actually form a rebuttal. Good luck in college by the way.
There's no rebuttal necessary to superstitious mumbo jumbo. Don't get mad because I don't take your bullshit seriously. All you're doing is pulling. Statistics out of your ass from your limited and close minded perspective of life. Pedophiles are irrelevant, and it was a Crhistian who smashed a mans head in for being homosexual. Let's also not forget the WBC, and the fact that Christian politicians make laws using the bible as a reference.
Funny how you call atheists argumentative, yet here you are trying to argue. If you're so firm in your beliefs, why do you care what I think? I've met real fundamentalists, and they're not the least bit interested in discussing things like this. So yes, you're either a troll or very stupid. You can pick whichever you lets you sleep at night. And I'm not in college. If I were, what religious fundamentalism have to do with anything?
>Dustbin
The opinions of one person in a group of people do not represent the whole, and that's what you're saying entirely throughout your post. What? Christians are evil because one of them committed murder? Well then I guess atheists must be really evil for killing hundreds of millions in the twentieth century.
>Your logic
Well since you brought up the past, then I guess you never heard of the Crusades. Also, Hitler and Stalin did not kill because they were atheist. They killed people who opposed them. But I guess you're too busy sending me PMs which presumably have shock images.
39951
« on: September 27, 2014, 08:02:48 AM »
Atheists can be good people too, but on average they're not. I think that's the key distinction.
Most definitely.
Just yesterday I stoned a woman for talking out of turn (I didn't give her permission to talk you see) and then later I blew up a school because girls were attending it. Then I threw acid in the face of a 6 year old girl. Then I hit my dormmate in the head with a hammer because he's a homosexual. Spoiler Oh wait. That would be the shit you hear on the news that Theists do.
Muslims are less advanced than Christians so that doesn't really make a difference. On the topic of homosexuality, there seems to be a lot of gay pedophiles, so you really can't blame people for being upset with them over it. Proportional to the gay population, there are far more gay pedophiles than straight. And of course, it's simply God's will that homosexuality one of the deadly sins. We might not know why, but that doesn't make it any less of a sin to commit.
LOL You almost had me there for a minute. The username and Density avatar had me suspicious but all that sin talk gave you away.
Are you trying to say I'm a troll for saying what billions of people believe? Figures, it's so much easier to just say someone's a troll than to actually form a rebuttal. Good luck in college by the way.
There's no rebuttal necessary to superstitious mumbo jumbo. Don't get mad because I don't take your bullshit seriously. All you're doing is pulling. Statistics out of your ass from your limited and close minded perspective of life. Pedophiles are irrelevant, and it was a Crhistian who smashed a mans head in for being homosexual. Let's also not forget the WBC, and the fact that Christian politicians make laws using the bible as a reference. Funny how you call atheists argumentative, yet here you are trying to argue. If you're so firm in your beliefs, why do you care what I think? I've met real fundamentalists, and they're not the least bit interested in discussing things like this. So yes, you're either a troll or very stupid. You can pick whichever you lets you sleep at night. And I'm not in college. If I were, what religious fundamentalism have to do with anything? >Dustbin
39952
« on: September 27, 2014, 07:54:12 AM »
I love how all you small government faggots are so in favor of their local or state government running everything like fucking tyrants.
You realize the smaller governments have the most corruption right? They're not in the spotlight, they hire their friends. It's like you guys are blind and deaf.
39953
« on: September 27, 2014, 07:51:46 AM »
Atheists can be good people too, but on average they're not. I think that's the key distinction.
Most definitely.
Just yesterday I stoned a woman for talking out of turn (I didn't give her permission to talk you see) and then later I blew up a school because girls were attending it. Then I threw acid in the face of a 6 year old girl. Then I hit my dormmate in the head with a hammer because he's a homosexual. Spoiler Oh wait. That would be the shit you hear on the news that Theists do.
Muslims are less advanced than Christians so that doesn't really make a difference. On the topic of homosexuality, there seems to be a lot of gay pedophiles, so you really can't blame people for being upset with them over it. Proportional to the gay population, there are far more gay pedophiles than straight. And of course, it's simply God's will that homosexuality one of the deadly sins. We might not know why, but that doesn't make it any less of a sin to commit.
LOL You almost had me there for a minute. The username and Density avatar had me suspicious but all that sin talk gave you away.
39954
« on: September 27, 2014, 06:31:53 AM »
what if a trap sucks your dick but you think it's a girl but then you figure out that it's a dude
is that gay because i need to know
A "trap"?
Fuck you. Seriously.
guise dun be meen to trap doors they're door liek nubudy els dun b jelly b sensitive
39955
« on: September 27, 2014, 06:29:14 AM »
Nobody cares.
inb4 lol you do because you posted
Apparently you cared enough to post.
I inb4'd you retard.
I don't care?
Apparently you cared enough to post.
39956
« on: September 27, 2014, 05:49:16 AM »
The amount of failure Zesty brings to this forum really drags us down as a community. Honestly, it's embarassing. We had to deal with him on b.net, but at least his shitty ass threads would get pushed to page 2 quickly enough.
I don't see why we need to deal with him here. I think we can all agree not a single person here likes him. He's bad for our image as a community.
If you do that, who'll brink the dank to the bank? lel stupid skrub
Further proving my point.
39957
« on: September 27, 2014, 05:45:52 AM »
The amount of failure Zesty brings to this forum really drags us down as a community. Honestly, it's embarassing. We had to deal with him on b.net, but at least his shitty ass threads would get pushed to page 2 quickly enough.
I don't see why we need to deal with him here. I think we can all agree not a single person here likes him. He's bad for our image as a community.
39958
« on: September 27, 2014, 05:42:40 AM »
Nobody cares.
inb4 lol you do because you posted
Apparently you cared enough to post.
I inb4'd you retard. What the hell is with the pringle ad?
39959
« on: September 27, 2014, 05:38:57 AM »
Nobody cares.
inb4 lol you do because you posted
39960
« on: September 27, 2014, 05:37:56 AM »
Leave.
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