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36721
« on: December 08, 2014, 07:10:51 PM »
Denying anybody service because of their beliefs is wrong.
And it should be up to the consumers to show them how wrong they are.
In other words, put them out of business. Set social standards without having to get the law involved.
That's against everything America and all other Western nations stand for.
What if you're a minority in a town of white people? You can't get a bottle of water because they don't want to serve you (apart from the degradation and humiliation of that), you have nobody who will rally with you to bring the place down financially because all the other white folks keep going.
No. Hell no. We just got rid of this shit half a century ago and you want to bring it back? What's next, segregated schools and water fountains?
>tfw you can order a case of water on amazon
MURICA
>tfw you'll die of dehydration before it gets to you
>tfw you have to send a picture of your skin color before Amazon sells you anything
>tfw you can't get gas at any gas station
>tfw you can't get internet because the ISP is bigoted
Amazon is a pretty huge corporation, as are gas stations and most internet providers.
And yet buying water from Amazon isn't really viable if you're thirsty. They can afford to refuse customers all they want it you give them the freedom to do so. It's retarded and we need to be moving away from that, not trying to bring it back.
36722
« on: December 08, 2014, 07:08:45 PM »
]Nope, people can say what they like on the Internet. Freedom of speech. So authors aren't allowed to convey their ideas on paper?
I mean I'm just trying to wrap my head around your logic here. Apparently internet fascism = okay, but book fascism is a big no no for some reason.
A book is more official, holds more weight, Which is no different than a blog, or a comment, or a thread. Really, the only difference is the physical aspects in which they're printed on, and maybe their length.
and has more authority when it comes to reading and learning new ideas. What authority would this be exactly?
I didn't say you couldn't learn from talking to people on the Internet, I said somebody saying "The Jews should be killed because they're ruining the world" is not the same as reading "The Jew is the sole source of corruption and evil in our species" in a Nazi book. I don't see the difference besides the eloquence.
You know, I like you Challenger, I really do, but you have this annoying tendency to refuse to concede to a stance or point and bring up really stupid arguments when you've been flipped on your arse or backed into a corner. I don't even mean this as an insult, merely advice in your future debates.
Don't patronize me. I'm discussing this with you because you all keep replying. But I'm never going to change my mind on this. The book should be banned and destroyed. If you're seriously going to sit there and say a book doesn't carry more weight than a blog or post on a forum, LOL. Like I said, we read books and view them as official sources of information from a young age. That means somebody will take Mein Kampf far more seriously than a blog post. Exactly, the eloquence. The second phrase is far more likely to get you thinking than the first one. And my point is I'm not for censorship in general. I just don't think Mein Kampf should be legal to buy. Hitler shouldn't be idolized like he is, and having people read his book is even worse.
36723
« on: December 08, 2014, 07:02:22 PM »
Denying anybody service because of their beliefs is wrong.
And it should be up to the consumers to show them how wrong they are.
In other words, put them out of business. Set social standards without having to get the law involved.
That's against everything America and all other Western nations stand for.
What if you're a minority in a town of white people? You can't get a bottle of water because they don't want to serve you (apart from the degradation and humiliation of that), you have nobody who will rally with you to bring the place down financially because all the other white folks keep going.
No. Hell no. We just got rid of this shit half a century ago and you want to bring it back? What's next, segregated schools and water fountains?
>tfw you can order a case of water on amazon
MURICA
>tfw you'll die of dehydration before it gets to you >tfw you have to send a picture of your skin color before Amazon sells you anything >tfw you can't get gas at any gas station >tfw you can't get internet because the ISP is bigoted
36724
« on: December 08, 2014, 07:00:08 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
Clearly not, if one book is all it takes for your culture to descend into fascism, so much so that it must be banned. If it's that easy, I think this society's values lie elsewhere.
In fact, I would call the suppression of ideas very un-democratic.
Don't twist things.
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas. And there's no slippery slope effect either. Fascism is a very clear and serious danger to democracy and freedom. If censoring a book written by a madman that promotes fascism is fascism to you, then you're living in some sort of topsy turvy world.
It might try to promote fascism, but censoring it and suppressing the book won't stop idiots from getting their hands on it. It's better to allow that piece of garbage to exist, because it genuinely is as hard to read as a brick and anyone trying to base their belief system off it would seriously struggle to make heads or tails of it.
Neo-Nazi idiots just parrot the shit that their friends and fathers parroted to them, actually trying to extract sense from mein kampf is pretty futile and I would say it's beyond the skill of the average skinhead.
In my opinion, it's better to let people see the evils of the ideas contained in that book for themselves than to tell them it's bad and ban it outright.
The people reading it won't see it as evil.
If you've read about what the Nazis have done and you're interested enough to read the book of psycho numero uno himself, chances are you think they had some good ideas.
Well, I've read it. Or most of it anyway, I got sick of reading a brick and gave up.
Despite my earlier half joke, it is an evil book. It's filled with the kind of shit you see on stormfront nowadays but written in the context of 80-90 years ago.
I've read quite a lot about what the nazis did, if there was an SS officer in the same room as me and I had a gun - I'd shoot the bastard in cold blood.
I was interested to get a look at the psychology behind the lunatic responsible for all that shit, not because I thought that the Nazis needed to kill off some more jews and cripples.
You have to learn from history to avoid the same mistakes being repeated, the problem with stamping out the remainder of the problem is it's harder to study it in the future and make sure it never happens again.
Then read a history book.
Erase it from your mind, don't promote it, don't waste time on it. It's wrong, it's stupid, and it's against everything humanity is supposed to be.
Besides, there's genocide going on right now. There's governments brainwashing and controlling their citizens right now. That book not being banned hasn't stopped anything fm from being repeated.
I have read many.
I in no way promote it, whenever it's brought up I say how shite the book is let alone the abhorrent content. Understanding what you are supposed to watch for in others is important, sure you can try and leave it all up to intuition but there isn't anything wrong with understanding the mind (or trying to) of people who think like that. Finding out what makes them tick is important as it helps you prevent others from falling into the same pitfalls.
And the genocides currently being carried out are not over things mentioned in mein kampf or any other nazi literature. It's over ethnic divisions and power struggles in Africa and the middle east. The Hutus in Rwanda weren't Neo-Nazis, they just wanted to butcher the Tutsis.
Right, and as long we have history books no Naziesque regime will ever pop up again. But the point is there's nothing to gain by allowing people to read this book that can't be gained by reading a history book.
36725
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:57:21 PM »
Denying anybody service because of their beliefs is wrong.
And it should be up to the consumers to show them how wrong they are.
In other words, put them out of business. Set social standards without having to get the law involved.
That's against everything America and all other Western nations stand for. What if you're a minority in a town of white people? You can't get a bottle of water because they don't want to serve you (apart from the degradation and humiliation of that), you have nobody who will rally with you to bring the place down financially because all the other white folks keep going. No. Hell no. We just got rid of this shit half a century ago and you want to bring it back? What's next, segregated schools and water fountains?
36726
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:53:57 PM »
A Song of Ice and Fire is a fictional book read for entertainment. And? The analogy still holds up. Anyone that takes a book literally is not mentally sound.
I didn't say you said we should encourage it, I said it's almost encouraging it to allow it to be read. No, it really isn't.
Again, I'm not talking about censorship of books. Just Mein Kampf. Then you may as well just go ahead and ban /pol/ and all the other fascist outlets that espouse Mein Kampf since they're such a detriment to the democratic process.
And yes, books have more of an impact than a hateful comment on the Internet. Everybody knows this. I've learned just as much from this site alone by listening to other people's ideas as I have from books. What a completely dumfounded and ignorant statement.
Nope, people can say what they like on the Internet. Freedom of speech. A book is more official, holds more weight, and has more authority when it comes to reading and learning new ideas. I didn't say you couldn't learn from talking to people on the Internet, I said somebody saying "The Jews should be killed because they're ruining the world" is not the same as reading "The Jew is the sole source of corruption and evil in our species" in a Nazi book.
36727
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:49:48 PM »
As long as their money is real, it doesn't matter.
Denying anybody service because of their beliefs is wrong.
36728
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:47:44 PM »
If you think fascism isn't a serious threat to democracy, you're kidding yourself.
What about militarism, colonialism, Stalinism, anarchism, communism or voluntarism?
I'm actually not that opposed to suppressing fascism, and I'd trust myself to do it right were I in government, but my problem is where do we draw the line. Can we trust the government to only ban the literature that is exceptionally dangerous? Should they ban books with anti-democratic yet non-militarist and non-racist sentiments like anarchism? Should they ban books promoting anarchism if they promote insurrection and revolution? How do you measure danger; is the anarchists homemade-bomb-making guide more dangerous than Mein Kampf? Why do we assume democracy is the best form of government in the first place?
I'm talking about Mein Kampf specifically. Not about censorship of books, although a book detailing how to make explosives is probably not a good idea to allow people to read.
"Hey, stop printing chemistry books."
"Someone might use simple thermochemistry to figure how to make explosives."
"What?! No, that's retarded."
A bomb making guide book is very, very different from a chemistry book where one can infer how to make explosives.
36729
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:44:51 PM »
Nobody wants to hear it. "Book" being the important part. A book is official. A book holds weight and has "authority". A book is important and can teach. This is ingrained into our minds at an extremely young age. Yes, but A Song Of Ice And Fire doesn't make me want to pillage and rape and establish my on monarchic dynasty. If someone takes the teachings or writings of a book in a literal interpretation, then said person is not in touch with reality and/or is mentally ill.
You can be influenced by Mein Kampf sure, but to adhere to its teachings probably makes you a psychopath.
Mein Kampf isn't even that fascistic anyway. It's pretty much Hitler just whining about his time in prison >.>.
Nobody wants to hear it's wrong when they read it and think it's right. Why should we have to tell people it's wrong and at the same time allow and almost encourage them to read it? I'm not saying we should "encourage people to read it." Don't put word in my mouth. There's a very stark difference between encouraging someone to read something and being against the censorship of ideas that you don't agree with.
People can say what they like, peacefully gather, whatever. But not a book. So a collection of paper, letters and sentences is where you draw the line? It doesn't matter what's being said, just how it's being said? That's your criteria for censorship?
A Song of Ice and Fire is a fictional book read for entertainment. I didn't say you said we should encourage it, I said it's almost encouraging it to allow it to be read. Again, I'm not talking about censorship of books. Just Mein Kampf. And yes, books have more of an impact than a hateful comment on the Internet. Everybody knows this.
36730
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:41:41 PM »
If you think fascism isn't a serious threat to democracy, you're kidding yourself.
What about militarism, colonialism, Stalinism, anarchism, communism or voluntarism?
I'm actually not that opposed to suppressing fascism, and I'd trust myself to do it right were I in government, but my problem is where do we draw the line. Can we trust the government to only ban the literature that is exceptionally dangerous? Should they ban books with anti-democratic yet non-militarist and non-racist sentiments like anarchism? Should they ban books promoting anarchism if they promote insurrection and revolution? How do you measure danger; is the anarchists homemade-bomb-making guide more dangerous than Mein Kampf? Why do we assume democracy is the best form of government in the first place?
I'm talking about Mein Kampf specifically. Not about censorship of books, although a book detailing how to make explosives is probably not a good idea to allow people to read.
36731
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:40:00 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
Clearly not, if one book is all it takes for your culture to descend into fascism, so much so that it must be banned. If it's that easy, I think this society's values lie elsewhere.
In fact, I would call the suppression of ideas very un-democratic.
Don't twist things.
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas. And there's no slippery slope effect either. Fascism is a very clear and serious danger to democracy and freedom. If censoring a book written by a madman that promotes fascism is fascism to you, then you're living in some sort of topsy turvy world.
It might try to promote fascism, but censoring it and suppressing the book won't stop idiots from getting their hands on it. It's better to allow that piece of garbage to exist, because it genuinely is as hard to read as a brick and anyone trying to base their belief system off it would seriously struggle to make heads or tails of it.
Neo-Nazi idiots just parrot the shit that their friends and fathers parroted to them, actually trying to extract sense from mein kampf is pretty futile and I would say it's beyond the skill of the average skinhead.
In my opinion, it's better to let people see the evils of the ideas contained in that book for themselves than to tell them it's bad and ban it outright.
The people reading it won't see it as evil.
If you've read about what the Nazis have done and you're interested enough to read the book of psycho numero uno himself, chances are you think they had some good ideas.
Well, I've read it. Or most of it anyway, I got sick of reading a brick and gave up.
Despite my earlier half joke, it is an evil book. It's filled with the kind of shit you see on stormfront nowadays but written in the context of 80-90 years ago.
I've read quite a lot about what the nazis did, if there was an SS officer in the same room as me and I had a gun - I'd shoot the bastard in cold blood.
I was interested to get a look at the psychology behind the lunatic responsible for all that shit, not because I thought that the Nazis needed to kill off some more jews and cripples.
You have to learn from history to avoid the same mistakes being repeated, the problem with stamping out the remainder of the problem is it's harder to study it in the future and make sure it never happens again.
Then read a history book. Erase it from your mind, don't promote it, don't waste time on it. It's wrong, it's stupid, and it's against everything humanity is supposed to be. Besides, there's genocide going on right now. There's governments brainwashing and controlling their citizens right now. That book not being banned hasn't stopped anything fm from being repeated.
36732
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:33:52 PM »
If you've read about what the Nazis have done and you're interested enough to read the book of psycho numero uno himself, chances are you think they had some good ideas.
Or you just have an interest in history/politics - as I did.
However, you've actually brought up a good point, that Hitler was a psychopath. Neo-Nazis, in this day and age, are probably inflicted with either a lack of education, poor parenting or a mental disorder bordering on ASPD/psychopathy.
In other words, the issue isn't actually the book itself.
But the book can give people with problems bad ideas. It's just totally against everything we stand for.
36733
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:31:50 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.
Fascism isn't material we don't like. It's a serious threat to democracy and books like that can give kids the wrong idea.
It's a book written by a madman promoting his bullshit ideals. It's not like we're writing textbooks omitting that part of history, we're just banning a disgusting book.
Then you already are a fascist society at that point you dip. Banning literature and art because you don't like what it stands for is kind of how fascism works. It's irony at its finest.
No it isn't.
If some guy wants to write a book promoting fascism, it shouldn't be allowed to be publicized. Fascism is a plague and needs to be eradicated. You can be a hippie all you like and call it "suppression of ideas", but it's suppression of fascism. It goes directly against our way of life.
Yes it is.
You're starting to sound like a fascist yourself.
It goes directly against our way of life
it shouldn't be allowed to be publicized
Just so you know, Mein Kampf is available to purchase in pretty much all Western Democracies, and we're far from becoming a totalitarian state, nor has there been any indication of such a transgression. The narrative you're going for is fallacious, no offense
I never said one book will create a fascist state. I'm saying there's a slippery slope effect. Where does it end? People already have this attitude of viewing Nazis with this sense of mysticism and grandeur.
Intolerance of intolerance is necessary, much as it may seem like you're behaving as your enemy would. You're not, you're doing it in the name of preserving freedom and not allowing it to be tainted by those who would take it away, while abusing the freedom of speech when they would abolish it if they had their way.
It ends where the ideas get put into practice, plain and simple. If someone starts gassing Jewish people because of a book they read, the general consensus would be that said person is inflicted with mental illness. There are plenty of people that believe and adhere to fascism who are law abiding citizens. Idiots? Yes, but their speech holds just as much validity to be heard as anyone else's.
I'm not disagreeing with what your saying, but curtailing ideas because you disagree with them is the complete antithesis of a democracy. We should be discouraging fascism sure, but in open debate and discourse, not censorship.
Nobody wants to hear it. "Book" being the important part. A book is official. A book holds weight and has "authority". A book is important and can teach. This is ingrained into our minds at an extremely young age. Nobody wants to hear it's wrong when they read it and think it's right. Why should we have to tell people it's wrong and at the same time allow and almost encourage them to read it? People can say what they like, peacefully gather, whatever. But not a book.
36734
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:27:23 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
A society valuing equality and, especially, democracy must be incredibly fragile if a book will convert its citizens to racism and totalitarianism. So fragile, in fact, that it shouldn't be a democracy in the first place.
One book can do a lot. Not only that, it'll motivate others to make similar books. If you think fascism isn't a serious threat to democracy, you're kidding yourself. Democracy is incredibly fragile. We're at a tipping point in time where we make the right choices and move forward, or repeat past mistakes. If banning and destroying a book that would advocate burning ALL books is wrong, then I'd rather be wrong than whatever right is in your minds.
36735
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:24:10 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
Clearly not, if one book is all it takes for your culture to descend into fascism, so much so that it must be banned. If it's that easy, I think this society's values lie elsewhere.
In fact, I would call the suppression of ideas very un-democratic.
Don't twist things.
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas. And there's no slippery slope effect either. Fascism is a very clear and serious danger to democracy and freedom. If censoring a book written by a madman that promotes fascism is fascism to you, then you're living in some sort of topsy turvy world.
It might try to promote fascism, but censoring it and suppressing the book won't stop idiots from getting their hands on it. It's better to allow that piece of garbage to exist, because it genuinely is as hard to read as a brick and anyone trying to base their belief system off it would seriously struggle to make heads or tails of it.
Neo-Nazi idiots just parrot the shit that their friends and fathers parroted to them, actually trying to extract sense from mein kampf is pretty futile and I would say it's beyond the skill of the average skinhead.
In my opinion, it's better to let people see the evils of the ideas contained in that book for themselves than to tell them it's bad and ban it outright.
The people reading it won't see it as evil. If you've read about what the Nazis have done and you're interested enough to read the book of psycho numero uno himself, chances are you think they had some good ideas.
36736
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:19:45 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.
Fascism isn't material we don't like. It's a serious threat to democracy and books like that can give kids the wrong idea.
It's a book written by a madman promoting his bullshit ideals. It's not like we're writing textbooks omitting that part of history, we're just banning a disgusting book.
Then you already are a fascist society at that point you dip. Banning literature and art because you don't like what it stands for is kind of how fascism works. It's irony at its finest.
No it isn't.
If some guy wants to write a book promoting fascism, it shouldn't be allowed to be publicized. Fascism is a plague and needs to be eradicated. You can be a hippie all you like and call it "suppression of ideas", but it's suppression of fascism. It goes directly against our way of life.
Yes it is.
You're starting to sound like a fascist yourself.
It goes directly against our way of life
it shouldn't be allowed to be publicized
Just so you know, Mein Kampf is available to purchase in pretty much all Western Democracies, and we're far from becoming a totalitarian state, nor has there been any indication of such a transgression. The narrative you're going for is fallacious, no offense
I never said one book will create a fascist state. I'm saying there's a slippery slope effect. Where does it end? People already have this attitude of viewing Nazis with this sense of mysticism and grandeur. Intolerance of intolerance is necessary, much as it may seem like you're behaving as your enemy would. You're not, you're doing it in the name of preserving freedom and not allowing it to be tainted by those who would take it away, while abusing the freedom of speech when they would abolish it if they had their way.
36737
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:16:26 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.
Fascism isn't material we don't like. It's a serious threat to democracy and books like that can give kids the wrong idea.
It's a book written by a madman promoting his bullshit ideals. It's not like we're writing textbooks omitting that part of history, we're just banning a disgusting book.
Then you already are a fascist society at that point you dip. Banning literature and art because you don't like what it stands for is kind of how fascism works. It's irony at its finest.
No it isn't.
If some guy wants to write a book promoting fascism, it shouldn't be allowed to be publicized. Fascism is a plague and needs to be eradicated. You can be a hippie all you like and call it "suppression of ideas", but it's suppression of fascism. It goes directly against our way of life.
"Our way of life" includes, at least in my mind and I hope in yours, the freedom to hold whatever ideas, opinions, and beliefs one wishes to, and the freedom to discuss them without fear of persecution. How can you justify a fascist action, even if it's meant to eradicate fascism?
Everything except fascism. There's no persecution. The guy can create fascist blogs all he likes. But if he thinks he can write a book and make money off of something that has brought nothing but suffering humanity, he's shit out of luck.
36738
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:12:23 PM »
Posting in thread AMA me anything.
36739
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:11:11 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.
Fascism isn't material we don't like. It's a serious threat to democracy and books like that can give kids the wrong idea.
It's a book written by a madman promoting his bullshit ideals. It's not like we're writing textbooks omitting that part of history, we're just banning a disgusting book.
Then you already are a fascist society at that point you dip. Banning literature and art because you don't like what it stands for is kind of how fascism works. It's irony at its finest.
No it isn't. If some guy wants to write a book promoting fascism, it shouldn't be allowed to be publicized. Fascism is a plague and needs to be eradicated. You can be a hippie all you like and call it "suppression of ideas", but it's suppression of fascism. It goes directly against our way of life.
36740
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:06:42 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.
Fascism isn't material we don't like. It's a serious threat to democracy and books like that can give kids the wrong idea. It's a book written by a madman promoting his bullshit ideals. It's not like we're writing textbooks omitting that part of history, we're just banning a disgusting book.
36741
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:04:24 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
Clearly not, if one book is all it takes for your culture to descend into fascism, so much so that it must be banned. If it's that easy, I think this society's values lie elsewhere.
In fact, I would call the suppression of ideas very un-democratic.
Don't twist things. Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas. And there's no slippery slope effect either. Fascism is a very clear and serious danger to democracy and freedom. If censoring a book written by a madman that promotes fascism is fascism to you, then you're living in some sort of topsy turvy world.
36742
« on: December 08, 2014, 05:25:04 PM »
Hey, friend! I missed you, welcome back.
You realize you aren't going to become a Ninja by pretending to be nice, whilst letting everybody know you're pretending?
36743
« on: December 08, 2014, 05:17:30 PM »
MAMA MIA
That's not a question you daft cunt.
I was making fun of your OP, you stupid penis.
36744
« on: December 08, 2014, 05:15:46 PM »
MAMA MIA
36745
« on: December 08, 2014, 05:09:10 PM »
Hey everybody what's going on. :^)
36746
« on: December 08, 2014, 05:04:58 PM »
Boy do you hate cities. I do too, but damn.
Welcome back man, I hope you have a good treatment back home.
36747
« on: December 08, 2014, 05:01:29 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
36748
« on: December 08, 2014, 04:51:18 PM »
"We hope Destiny will be a drastically different experience than it is now in the years to come."
Me too, DeeJ.
36749
« on: December 08, 2014, 03:38:20 PM »
itt; white people trying to see who is blacker
Well if we're going to get really technical, "homeboy" comes from US soldiers calling fellow soldiers from their home town "homeboy". Mostly though this originated from Mexicans.
36750
« on: December 08, 2014, 03:22:23 PM »
Verbatim is the type of guy who threatens to shoot himself and you rush to make popcorn so you don't miss it.
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