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36661
« on: December 09, 2014, 04:41:47 PM »
Definitely not as hard as most people make it out to be. Challenging, but I rolled through it after leveling up my character.
36662
« on: December 09, 2014, 04:39:44 PM »
They're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.
Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminal
Seeing how I'm on topic and you're talking about some random thread, lol. Stop making me cringe. Stay on topic if you can.
36663
« on: December 09, 2014, 04:36:20 PM »
They're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.
Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminal
And they pay for their crimes, sometimes far more than what they deserved for their crime. I don't see a problem rehabilitating people and making them better. Funnily enough, the majority of people in prison aren't career criminals. And if you want to stop people from devoting their life to crime, giving them a chance to better themselves is far better than the system we have now.
36664
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:14:15 PM »
36665
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:13:19 PM »
Fuck no.
36666
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:10:16 PM »
Mein finger is on the trigger Challenger.
We're going to move this gear up.
u wot
THE GEAR CHALLENGER.
IT'S MOVING UP TO THE SEPTAGON.
WHADDYA GETTIN FRESH FOR IM HERE BUSTIN YOUR BALLS AND ALREADY YER GETTIN FUCKIN FRESH
36667
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:54:18 PM »
Mein finger is on the trigger Challenger.
We're going to move this gear up.
u wot
36668
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:53:42 PM »
Stay on topic faggots.
Is there some sort of chess thing online we can hijack to have our own private "chess room"?
Maybe.
36669
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:48:20 PM »
Stay on topic faggots.
36670
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:28:04 PM »
might as well bring in all the board games
and gay marriage
then pedo marriage
36671
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:25:56 PM »
God that loser is still there.
36672
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:02:34 PM »
A little chess app for the site. Remember proboards had it? Or was it zetaboards?
DON'T MOVE THIS TO SEPTAGON YOU FUCKING HOMOSEXUALS
36673
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:00:19 PM »
Elegiac is so weird.
36674
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:59:12 PM »
lolArabs
36675
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:57:55 PM »
It is pretty fucking fantastic.
36676
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:49:59 PM »
@Verbatim
You would like this.
36677
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:47:22 PM »
Hey, we talked about it. We can talk again if you want....
Anyway, I'm starting to have to take pills for my anxiety. Kinda annoying.
It's ok Tru, I failed you, too. I really am a moron
I've nothing to do with this, you haven't failed me...
I said to keep her happy, but I didn't. I broke the promise.
pls no
Don't beat yourself up about it. I mean did you literally break a promise or did shit just happen? If it's the latter, I know it hurts, but you can't blame yourself.
36678
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:46:12 PM »
@Bungie Go fuck yourself.
36679
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:44:48 PM »
Hey, we talked about it. We can talk again if you want....
Anyway, I'm starting to have to take pills for my anxiety. Kinda annoying.
It's ok Tru, I failed you, too. I really am a moron
I've nothing to do with this, you haven't failed me...
I said to keep her happy, but I didn't. I broke the promise.
36680
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:41:38 PM »
But... who is this guy?
36681
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:41:15 PM »
DAYUM that burger.
36682
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:39:23 PM »
36683
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:38:44 PM »
I left it at 30 because it's the default. I don't really care.
36684
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:37:33 PM »
36685
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:05:18 PM »
Its really easy to say that, but who knows what could have been.
We could have had 2-3 more major attacks on our homeland without this war. But alright.
So, we invaded two countries, both for over a decade (And one of which had no involvement in the 9/11 attacks), lost ~ four thousand lives, spent trillions of dollars, and helped destabilize the region more...on a question of "Oh, this could happen!...."
Seriously, the Vietnam War was more justifiable than that, and the Vietnam War was a joke.
No, we went to war because we were attacked. Or do you seem to forget 9/11?
I'm sorry, Iraq was involved in 9/11?
Nope, but they were a huge threat to our national security.
No they weren't. At all. Saddam didn't give a fuck about us and he didn't support Al Qaeda.
36686
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:03:37 PM »
Conservatives are kept in check by the democratic system but they try and destroy it every day and take what little freedom we already have.
That's a massive generalisation you're making. Especially since my Conservative Party is probably the most democratic of the three main parties in Britain. I don't know how you can possibly claim conservatives are behind this, especially since most conservatives are the liberals of the 17-18th centuries.
It's not so much about how conservative one is, but about how authoritarian one is. Stalinism is a much bigger threat to democracy than I am, and they aren't conservative by any measure. Hell, even fascism isn't conservative half of the time.
But this isn't the 17th century, this is 2014. Your PM is about as bad as Bush. Increased tutti on for schools, cuts in education and retirement. Seriously, you can't be blind to these things.
36687
« on: December 09, 2014, 12:49:20 PM »
Europe is very right wing. Italy, Spain, France, the Nordic countries, even England. Since when?
I'll give you borderline-authoritarian welfare states.
But there's no way they're that right-wing, economically or otherwise.
Hold on I confused the French party in the EU with the government. My bad.
The others are though. Look at the laws being passed by your government. Look at the Nordic countries. They're great countries no doubt, but they're pretty fascistic and definitely right wing. I mean they're conservatives.
I won't deny that my country has been passing excessively invasive and unnecessary laws, but that doesn't even touch fascism. And yes, they're conservatives, but being conservative is nowhere near fascism.
There's a stark difference between a surveillance-welfare state and fascism. Hell, fascism isn't even economically right-wing - our conservatives don't exactly fit the mold. Although I do wish they were further to the right, economically.
I don't differentiate. Conservatives are kept in check by the democratic system but they try and destroy it every day and take what little freedom we already have.
36688
« on: December 09, 2014, 12:35:21 PM »
Europe is very right wing. Italy, Spain, France, the Nordic countries, even England. Since when?
I'll give you borderline-authoritarian welfare states.
But there's no way they're that right-wing, economically or otherwise.
Hold on I confused the French party in the EU with the government. My bad. The others are though. Look at the laws being passed by your government. Look at the Nordic countries. They're great countries no doubt, but they're pretty fascistic and definitely right wing. I mean they're conservatives.
36689
« on: December 09, 2014, 12:30:46 PM »
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas.
I'd love to know what makes you think fascism isn't composed of ideas.
You're taking what I said out of context. I said I'm not for suppression of ideas, I'm for the suppression of Mein Kampf and by extension all books promoting or glamorizing Nazi ideology.
So you're not for suppression of ideas, you're just for suppression of ideas.
If you think Nazi ideology is important and valuable then there's nothing I can say to you about this.
I wouldn't call it valuable in and of itself, but understanding this ideology, and it's causes and implications, is pretty important if we want to prevent it's resurgence.
When you suppress these ideologies, you radicalize the people that hold them. They'll believe they are being oppressed for their deeply held beliefs. And they'll be right. They can still spread it to others, but they'll be more likely to engage in violent acts.
Not to mention suppression of ideologies is a pretty huge violation of democratic principles.
If you call banning Mein Kampf a "suppression of ideologies" you're just being dumb.
Nobody will be more likely to do anything if the book is banned. It puts us on the path to stop treating the Nazis the way we do and get them off this pedestal they're on.
I can't think of any place where Nazis are put on pedestals. I'd say Nazism is probably the most widely hated thing in human history. Calling someone a Nazi or fascist is the most powerful slur in modern politics. People call the UKIP Nazis, for example, demonstrating a clear misunderstanding of the ideology. If a politician in Germany is accused of Nazism, that's it for his career. Nazis are our boogiemen, the default evil. The word Nazi doesn't even mean National Socialist anymore, it's the new way to call someone an asshole.
I don't know what alternate universe you're living in where Nazism poses a genuine threat to the principles of democracy, but it's not the one the rest of us are in.
The greatest threat to Democracy in the real world comes from within, from those who advocate doing extremely un-democratic things in the name of democracy.
The majority of German politicians are closet Nazis. The majority of governments in Europe are fascist.
Nazis are on an extremely high pedestal. People think of Hitler as a great man, as the Nazis being incredibly organized, efficient, and revering their clothing, their salutes, their slogans. It's an unspoken truth nobody likes to admit, proven here by all of you pretending it doesn't exist. True, you guys don't revere Nazis. But I can think of quite a few people on this site alone that do.
Oh ok you're just trolling
Either make a rebuttal or just don't reply at all. Go ahead and drop the discussion if you want, but don't start acting stupid.
If you think people genuinely revere Nazis, there's something wrong with you.
Maybe you do, and you're projecting your insecurity onto others.
But nobody who is capable of reading Mein Kampf is going to get into that ideology.
Kiyo, Meta, Slash, Berzerk Commando, Kernel Kraut, Kinder, and a few others whose usernames I can't remember.
There's nothing wrong with me. If you want to deny Europe isn't being controlled by right wing fascist governments, then LOL. I live here dude, I can see what's going on better than you reading a CNN article.
I'm going to look stupid
Nothing new then.
36690
« on: December 09, 2014, 12:30:08 PM »
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas.
I'd love to know what makes you think fascism isn't composed of ideas.
You're taking what I said out of context. I said I'm not for suppression of ideas, I'm for the suppression of Mein Kampf and by extension all books promoting or glamorizing Nazi ideology.
So you're not for suppression of ideas, you're just for suppression of ideas.
If you think Nazi ideology is important and valuable then there's nothing I can say to you about this.
I wouldn't call it valuable in and of itself, but understanding this ideology, and it's causes and implications, is pretty important if we want to prevent it's resurgence.
When you suppress these ideologies, you radicalize the people that hold them. They'll believe they are being oppressed for their deeply held beliefs. And they'll be right. They can still spread it to others, but they'll be more likely to engage in violent acts.
Not to mention suppression of ideologies is a pretty huge violation of democratic principles.
If you call banning Mein Kampf a "suppression of ideologies" you're just being dumb.
Nobody will be more likely to do anything if the book is banned. It puts us on the path to stop treating the Nazis the way we do and get them off this pedestal they're on.
I can't think of any place where Nazis are put on pedestals. I'd say Nazism is probably the most widely hated thing in human history. Calling someone a Nazi or fascist is the most powerful slur in modern politics. People call the UKIP Nazis, for example, demonstrating a clear misunderstanding of the ideology. If a politician in Germany is accused of Nazism, that's it for his career. Nazis are our boogiemen, the default evil. The word Nazi doesn't even mean National Socialist anymore, it's the new way to call someone an asshole.
I don't know what alternate universe you're living in where Nazism poses a genuine threat to the principles of democracy, but it's not the one the rest of us are in.
The greatest threat to Democracy in the real world comes from within, from those who advocate doing extremely un-democratic things in the name of democracy.
The majority of German politicians are closet Nazis. The majority of governments in Europe are fascist.
Nazis are on an extremely high pedestal. People think of Hitler as a great man, as the Nazis being incredibly organized, efficient, and revering their clothing, their salutes, their slogans. It's an unspoken truth nobody likes to admit, proven here by all of you pretending it doesn't exist. True, you guys don't revere Nazis. But I can think of quite a few people on this site alone that do.
Oh ok you're just trolling
Either make a rebuttal or just don't reply at all. Go ahead and drop the discussion if you want, but don't start acting stupid.
If you think people genuinely revere Nazis, there's something wrong with you.
Maybe you do, and you're projecting your insecurity onto others.
But nobody who is capable of reading Mein Kampf is going to get into that ideology.
Kiyo, Meta, Slash, Berzerk Commando, Kernel Kraut, Kinder, and a few others whose usernames I can't remember.
There's nothing wrong with me. If you want to deny Europe isn't being controlled by right wing fascist governments, then LOL. I live here dude, I can see what's going on better than you reading a CNN article.
>europe
>right wing
Authoritarian? I'll give you that, they're working hard on it. But Europe is pretty far from right wing.
Europe is very right wing. Italy, Spain, France, the Nordic countries, even England. I live here. I see legislations being passed, what politicians say, what parties are in power, I know what's going on. You don't, no offense.
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