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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 07:49:41 PM »
Taking life is always bad.
nope
We've had this exact same conversation before, and we got nowhere. I really don't care dude. Good luck with being a sociopath lmao
i'm sociopathic because my entire life philosophy is basically rooted in purging all sociopathic thought

just shoot yourself or something
>when you're an antisocial doucharoni but you've tricked yourself into thinking you're on a moral crusade because you emulate some creepy old guy that makes 3 hour long rants with 20 views on YouTube

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Don't do this shit in my thread
But aren't you an obnoxious fanboy yourself

Well your definition of "obnoxious fanboy" is that I like stuff I like in certain media does not fit into the majority circlejerk.
No it's how hard you shill for 343 when I love the original Halo games and can admit they have flaws and Bungie made mistakes.

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 07:35:59 PM »
Taking life is always bad.
nope
We've had this exact same conversation before, and we got nowhere. I really don't care dude. Good luck with being a sociopath lmao

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 07:31:47 PM »
Killing a deer that's just chilling eating grass is absolutely bad.
yes

but that's no longer inherent

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Says who? You're still taking life.
intelligent

killing isn't inherently bad, and you've been saying this yourself for literal years
wtf

Taking life is always bad. It's just an unfortunate necessary part of life.

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 07:12:07 PM »
killing organisms to prolong your own life isn't inherently bad
Killing a deer that's just chilling eating grass is absolutely bad.

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the consequences of killing an animal far exceed the consequences of killing a plant
Says who? You're still taking life.

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 07:10:16 PM »
It might not be pain in the way you and I feel it
then it isn't pain
Some scientists say it is, some say it isn't. It's up for debate. But that was never really my point. My point was you're still killing a living being to prolong your own life.

What exactly is the point of being vegan?
to help minimize the suffering of sentient organisms that obviously feel pain without any debate

slow learner
Really because they're killed almost painlessly. The way they're caged up is horrible, but a vegan diet, even a vegetarian diet requires supplements and vitamins. A vast majority of the world do not have access to this nor the money even if they were able to purchase them.

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Don't do this shit in my thread
But aren't you an obnoxious fanboy yourself

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 06:48:42 PM »
It might not be pain in the way you and I feel it
then it isn't pain
Some scientists say it is, some say it isn't. It's up for debate. But that was never really my point. My point was you're still killing a living being to prolong your own life.

What exactly is the point of being vegan?

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 06:45:00 PM »
Just like there's something wrong with you if you're homosexual, asexual, or even feminine at all.
You're not serious
he also thinks plants feel pain

challenger is not a person anyone should take seriously
Some plant species and fungi do release chemicals into the air. Those are just facts. It might not be pain in the way you and I feel it, but it's definitely something which proves plants want to live. You killing plants to eat is basically the same as anybody else shooting a deer and eating it.That was my point and you could never refute it. Nobody can.

Being a vegan is pointless.

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The Flood / Re: hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haha
« on: October 14, 2017, 06:02:47 PM »
Please shorten the title because with how slow sep7 is it'll be zoomed in like this for weeks

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The Flood / Re: hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haha
« on: October 14, 2017, 05:48:57 PM »
Funny AND cute

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 05:45:10 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 04:28:15 PM »
I miss the old Ember
im sorry im not 13 and edgy and like to laugh with the creepy trainwreck that is solonoid at how disgusting trans men are anymore
I'm not laughing with Solonoid about anything. I'm laughing at because I find it funny and I don't consider people with a mental illness a different gender because they say so.

You can believe that all you want bro but at the end of the day it just isn't true.
why do you still adamantly choose to think this way after all the debate had on this site regarding this and all the research you have at your own disposal
Because there's something wrong with you if you have a penis and consider yourself a female. Just like there's something wrong with you if you're homosexual, asexual, or even feminine at all. That's really all there is to it. A man is a man and a woman is a woman.

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 01:12:33 PM »
I miss the old Ember
im sorry im not 13 and edgy and like to laugh with the creepy trainwreck that is solonoid at how disgusting trans men are anymore
I'm not laughing with Solonoid about anything. I'm laughing at because I find it funny and I don't consider people with a mental illness a different gender because they say so.

You can believe that all you want bro but at the end of the day it just isn't true.

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Gaming / Re: Destiny 2 General
« on: October 14, 2017, 09:22:40 AM »
Personally I think all Destiny players should be sent to prison.

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 14, 2017, 06:55:40 AM »
I miss the old Ember

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The jig is up Ember

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The Flood / Re: Blade Runner 2049 Was Fuckin' GOOD
« on: October 13, 2017, 07:53:57 PM »
Gaffer

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This guy is like a final boss in a video game which seems really dumb and easy at first but no matter how hard you try you can't beat him.

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The Flood / Re: Burger thread.
« on: October 13, 2017, 12:35:09 PM »
Best place to get burgers in the UK is probs Five Guys, there is a big "burger culture" now if you wanna call it that, years ago you'd have hard luck trying to find burgers outside typical places like McD's, and Burger King.
Other than that I make burgers at home, pic related (messy, sorry)
Spoiler
are you bleaching your skin lmao

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The Flood / Re: Meme thread
« on: October 13, 2017, 07:12:42 AM »

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The Flood / Re: Fucking Tinder
« on: October 13, 2017, 07:00:17 AM »
So she's supposed to be a man now because she has short hair hahahaha wew

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Well. Take Destiny for example. Great gunplay. Amazing gunplay in fact. Some of the gameplay systems are good, others not so much. The story? Literally what story, there wasn't even an attempt to make one. It's just vauge dialogue spread few and far between. And that brought the game down, way down. Any COD story is pretty bad too. Most don't even have interesting characters to me. God of War? Not that cutscene intensive, but HIGHLY linear. Very scripted. Again, not an amazing story, and the gameplay isn't innovative. But it's fun, and the story is interesting. That's all I'm saying.

So because Destiny and Call of Duty both a) exist, and b) have below average stories, Uncharted tells an above average story? I wouldn't say that at all. At best the Uncharted stories are the definition of average, executed with style (actually that's a pretty consistent theme throughout these games that Novacanoo brings up: absolutely basic necessities for the genre, executed with style). Like I said earlier, all 3 games can virtually be recaped as such: Nathan Drake competes with a vastly more powerful/wealthy/ruthless villain to be the first to find a lost treasure. At the beginning of the third act, Drake discovers that the treasure will grant the villain supernatrual powers which could change the world for the worse, so Drake's motivation becomes stopping the villain rather than claiming the treasure for himself." U3 adds a little more thankfully but the second game is just as guilty of that.

By far the most interesting aspect of Novacanoo's video is the introduction of the axis of game traits. A chart is divided into four sectors to [loosely] categorise every game ever made: Good Gameplay/Good Story, Good Gameplay/Bad Story, Bad Gameplay/Good Story, Bad Gameplay/Bad Story. It looks something like this:



In the "Good Gameplay/Good Story" sector we have games like The Last of Us, MGS3, etc. For the "Good Gameplay/Bad Story," you have games like MGSV, Bayonetta and BOTW. Pretty self-explanatory, nothing revolutionary here.



If we cross off the "Bad Gameplay/Bad Story" section because who gives a shit about games like The Order 1866 or Sonic '06. . .



. . .all that's left is "Bad Gameplay/Good Story" which he divides further into two categories: "Bad Gameplay/Bad Story - Most of your time is spent on Story" and "Bad Gameplay/Good Story - Most of your time is spent on the gameplay". For visualisation, this is what it looks like:



On the "Most of your time is spent on story" you have games like Telltale's Walking Dead and Danganronpa. In these games the gameplay is so scarecely involved in the experience that you can just sit back and absord the media like you would a book or movie.



And on the other side is where he believes Uncharted falls.



According to https://howlongtobeat.com/, the average person beats Uncharted: Drake's Fortune in 8 and a half hours on their first playthrough while Uncharted 2 takes 10. Being generous, these games both have about 2 hours of cutscenes if you include the walking/talking story sections where you """interact""" with the environment. See the problem here? If you're going to waste about 6 hours of your time playing a game for its story then the story you're telling better be absolutely incredible, and Uncharted's simply isn't. It's about as "incredible" as the game's inspiration, Raiders of the Lost Ark. The difference with Raiders and Uncharted is that Raiders just so happens to be only 2 hours long and doesn't require the additional 6 hours of effort that Uncharted does to experience its story; it can be passively experienced, like all film.

But then you may say something like "The games are worth playing for the character dialogue," which, no, they're not. The games' dialogue often get compared to Joss Whedon's Firefly and his other works, but if you wanted a lesson in how to write quick dialogue, you could watch every single episode of Firefly and Serenity to cap it off and still have 5 hours to spare compared to the 18 hours you would spend playing Uncharted.

The point he's trying to make here is that the characters and dialogue are only impressive because they've been plopped into a game, where (for good reason) emphasis hasn't normally been placed on cutscenes and character interaction before. The thing is, though, that dialogue has NOTHING to do with gameplay. Nothing. Games are not "games" when they're showing a cutscene, and having good writing doesn't push games forward in any meaningful way whatsoever. With Uncharted, Naughty Dog sacrifices everything at the altar of presentation, but if you want to push games forward, you have to push actual gameplay forward. Mechanics, rules, interaction. Why praise a video game for meeting par with film when it does absolutely nothing with the inherent strengths of video games as a medium.

What's the difference between filming these actors in front of a green screen and gearing them up in all these mocap suits to animate it? The answer is thousands of man hours, millions of dollars and the claim of "pushing games forward." All you're doing here is creating a CG mocap short film and splicing it throughout a barebones cover shooter. This doesn't elevate video games, it elevates the parts of an interactive product that has nothing to do with being a video game. These games are lauded for trying to make the game feel like a movie because movies are somehow considered superior as an art form.

Unfortunately Uncharted is pretty hard to criticise because unlike other games where you can step back and objectively look at how a game functions, Uncharted is a barebones game executed perfectly. It also bears mentioning that a lot of the people who enjoy the Uncharted games are considered "Busy Gamers" in that they don't have the time or inclination to get invested in a game with more depth than Uncharted, nor do they have the experience to notice that the game is masterfully controlling every set-piece interaction while trying to convince you that you're being the badass Nathan Drake is on your own. The Uncharted games represent everything I dislike about games today, and even with the improvement Naughty Dog makes in TLOU, I really hope after TLOU2 they drop the adventure third-person cover shooting shtick and move on to something a little more risky.

Sorry for the rant but it's quite cathartic to get something like this into words. Considering the praise ND gets for what I consider to be a step backwards from games like Jak and Daxter, the ability to effectively convey why I don't like these games after so many years is a gigantic relief.
no mames

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The Flood / Re: Burger thread.
« on: October 13, 2017, 05:30:29 AM »
The Baconator from Wendy's is the GOAT

you're fucking gross dude

chill wendy's is the bomb

maybe if you like shit quality food that's drowning in mayonnaise. go to a bar or a pub and get a real burger.
>pub

Somebody shoot this fool

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opm is fucking gay as shit

Naruto

Naruto isn't good either, but at least it tries to tell an original story and its characters don't look like this


Who also looks like this



that's better but still not all that cool or interesting. it's bald superman in dumber colours.
Visually he's not supposed to look cool or intresting


His suit is plain, but it works because warm colors convey strength more than cool colors, like Superman's blue suit. It's probably the only thing in OPM that goes for substance over style, design-wise.

mustard yellow really doesn't scream "strength" to me
Have you ever eaten some high quality mustard straight?

Oh what am I saying, of course you haven't.

Mustard is for gypsies and the mentally retarded.

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The Flood / Re: I'm ready for halloween
« on: October 12, 2017, 08:31:05 PM »
lofe send catnudes
If casper sends me his nudes I might send you mine. It has to be full body though, not just his butt, which I've seen.
And I'll send you all anthrax in the mail.

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opm is fucking gay as shit

Naruto

Naruto isn't good either, but at least it tries to tell an original story and its characters don't look like this


Who also looks like this



that's better but still not all that cool or interesting. it's bald superman in dumber colours.
Visually he's not supposed to look cool or intresting


His suit is plain, but it works because warm colors convey strength more than cool colors, like Superman's blue suit. It's probably the only thing in OPM that goes for substance over style, design-wise.

mustard yellow really doesn't scream "strength" to me
Have you ever eaten some high quality mustard straight?

Oh what am I saying, of course you haven't.

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The Flood / Re: See you losers later
« on: October 12, 2017, 08:12:11 PM »
Kill kimmy for us

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The Flood / Re: Burger thread.
« on: October 11, 2017, 08:09:34 PM »
Szechuan Sauce Cheese Burger Morty

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The Flood / Re: reminder that this happened to mint IRL
« on: October 11, 2017, 06:01:15 PM »
Didn't this happen to Ian
Nah fam, Ian was the library story
Yeah but remember he said he gave his phone to a girl so she could call her mom or something and he had some naked anime girl as his wallpaper

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