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33991
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:42:26 PM »
Obama is just as white as he is black.
Absolutely this.

The guy's fucking half-caste, not black.
He's predominantly black.

33992
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:39:43 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs
>yfw obama wants to protect middle class
>yfw obama makes free college
>yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college"
>yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money
>yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive


>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/
http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college
http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax.  And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED

I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.

"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem?

Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.

And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.

Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.
It is a tax

tax
taks/Submit
noun
1.
a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.

You have to buy insurance or face consequences; it's compulsory

So you're aware in his address that he mentions protecting the middle class?

It does correlate. In order to pay for "free" college (nothing is ever free), he's going to tax a program used predominately by middle class families and tax it........when he said he was going to protect the middle class. If you don't see ANYTHING wrong about that then I don't know what else to say

My last link compares the cost of a 2-year degree to a 4-year degree, where a semester at a 4-year degree is more expensive than a 2-year degree. More people with a 2-year degree means having to get a 4-year or higher degree which costs more money, a fact that makes the entire plan redundant

This is embarrassing? Showing how this plan is a big joke is embarrassing? Why am I not surprised by your words?
It's insurance. Not a tax.

3% of families (they're mostly high income families) use the 529. The middle class isn't being screwed.

The point is educating people more. America is severely behind in education.  A 2 year government/tax funded degree is better than nothing.

Yes. Embarrassing. You have no argument.
Bruh, did you even read the definition of a tax? If it's an insurance, then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor, not having some person tell me what to do with my body......wait, that argument sounds VERY familiar used by a certain American party with a donkey, hmmmmm?

No, families that use the plan are mostly middle-class. They're being screwed. Stop sticking up for the crook, please

Then improve the public school system. You're not benefiting anybody when you're spending government money and nothing comes out of it because the laws of supply and demand say when you have too much of one thing (this case a college degree) then it's value decrease dramatically, forcing people to spend their own money in order to be attractive to prospective employers.

No, I do have an argument. You just refuse to be open-minded to a person that disagrees with you and instead say something is embarrassing

Seriously, you're taking a non issue, twisting the facts, and then blaming it all on Obama because... he's black?
This is where I have a problem. I don't care what as to the rest you said, because it's an opinion that has no meaning to me. But this, this is complete bullshit. I'm not twisting the facts, I've posted credible links that show the truth. You're the one down-playing the facts. Even more pathetic is that you play the race card because of your close-mindedness. News Flash: Obama is just as white as he is black. You seriously need some help if you think this way and want to become a member to society
>strawmanning the half joke part of my post because you don't have a fucking leg to stand on
>mfw gunning down your "sources" which prove there is no correlation between Obama's plan and the degree issue

Oh my God, it's like talking with a 6 year old, with you being the 6 year old
FUCKING LOL

Quote
I'm not strawmanning. I'm stating how wrong you are. Do you even know what a strawman is?
You're stating how wrong I am by posting sources that prove your own argument wrong? Yes, you took one part of my post which was a half joke and attacked it because you couldn't refute anything else I said where I literally proved you wrong.

Quote
Uh, you didn't gun down anything. You're just embarrassing yourself for ignoring somebody showing you how wrong you are. If you can't use simple cognitive ability to understand that a program used by the middle-class to tax something is going against the idea of protecting the middle-class, there is no hope for you. If you can't understand the laws of supply and demand, there is no hope for you. If you can't understand a 4-year degree costs more than a 2-year degree, there is no hope for you
Dude, it says it in the source you provided. 3% of families of which the majority are wealthy. You're wrong. Accept it.

Quote
But you are right about one thing: Our education sucks and you're the poster child of it due to your inability of linking simple facts together
Right in the feels.

33993
The Flood / Re: >shopping at LOLister
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:30:52 PM »
I used to buy my clothes at supermarkets.

33994
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:29:51 PM »
then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor,
You do. I have my own plan with my own doctor.
*Aside from the fact thousands have lost their doctors and/or plans and certain plans are ineligible
A LOT OF THESE SAME PEOPLE HAVE REFUSED TO EVEN GO ON THE OBAMACARE WEB PAGE
Wrong.....Seeing as how insurance is now required, people can't go without it. Continue to support a policy that destroys the foundations of free will and Capitalism
Continue to buy into Republican fear mongering and propaganda.

33995
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:26:14 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs
>yfw obama wants to protect middle class
>yfw obama makes free college
>yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college"
>yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money
>yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive


>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/
http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college
http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax.  And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED

I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.

"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem?

Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.

And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.

Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.
It is a tax

tax
taks/Submit
noun
1.
a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.

You have to buy insurance or face consequences; it's compulsory

So you're aware in his address that he mentions protecting the middle class?

It does correlate. In order to pay for "free" college (nothing is ever free), he's going to tax a program used predominately by middle class families and tax it........when he said he was going to protect the middle class. If you don't see ANYTHING wrong about that then I don't know what else to say

My last link compares the cost of a 2-year degree to a 4-year degree, where a semester at a 4-year degree is more expensive than a 2-year degree. More people with a 2-year degree means having to get a 4-year or higher degree which costs more money, a fact that makes the entire plan redundant

This is embarrassing? Showing how this plan is a big joke is embarrassing? Why am I not surprised by your words?
It's insurance. Not a tax.

3% of families (they're mostly high income families) use the 529. The middle class isn't being screwed.

The point is educating people more. America is severely behind in education.  A 2 year government/tax funded degree is better than nothing.

Yes. Embarrassing. You have no argument.
Bruh, did you even read the definition of a tax? If it's an insurance, then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor, not having some person tell me what to do with my body......wait, that argument sounds VERY familiar used by a certain American party with a donkey, hmmmmm?

No, families that use the plan are mostly middle-class. They're being screwed. Stop sticking up for the crook, please

Then improve the public school system. You're not benefiting anybody when you're spending government money and nothing comes out of it because the laws of supply and demand say when you have too much of one thing (this case a college degree) then it's value decrease dramatically, forcing people to spend their own money in order to be attractive to prospective employers.

No, I do have an argument. You just refuse to be open-minded to a person that disagrees with you and instead say something is embarrassing

Seriously, you're taking a non issue, twisting the facts, and then blaming it all on Obama because... he's black?
This is where I have a problem. I don't care what as to the rest you said, because it's an opinion that has no meaning to me. But this, this is complete bullshit. I'm not twisting the facts, I've posted credible links that show the truth. You're the one down-playing the facts. Even more pathetic is that you play the race card because of your close-mindedness. News Flash: Obama is just as white as he is black. You seriously need some help if you think this way and want to become a member to society
>strawmanning the half joke part of my post because you don't have a fucking leg to stand on
>mfw gunning down your "sources" which prove there is no correlation between Obama's plan and the degree issue

33996
The Flood / Re: angelina jolie in her prime was the ultimate 10/10
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:21:50 PM »
Only a fool would be using his hands to try and prove you wrong.

33997
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:15:55 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs
>yfw obama wants to protect middle class
>yfw obama makes free college
>yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college"
>yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money
>yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive


>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/
http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college
http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax.  And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED

I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.

"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem?

Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.

And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.

Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.
It is a tax

tax
taks/Submit
noun
1.
a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.

You have to buy insurance or face consequences; it's compulsory

So you're aware in his address that he mentions protecting the middle class?

It does correlate. In order to pay for "free" college (nothing is ever free), he's going to tax a program used predominately by middle class families and tax it........when he said he was going to protect the middle class. If you don't see ANYTHING wrong about that then I don't know what else to say

My last link compares the cost of a 2-year degree to a 4-year degree, where a semester at a 4-year degree is more expensive than a 2-year degree. More people with a 2-year degree means having to get a 4-year or higher degree which costs more money, a fact that makes the entire plan redundant

This is embarrassing? Showing how this plan is a big joke is embarrassing? Why am I not surprised by your words?
It's insurance. Not a tax.

3% of families (they're mostly high income families) use the 529. The middle class isn't being screwed.

The point is educating people more. America is severely behind in education.  A 2 year government/tax funded degree is better than nothing.

Yes. Embarrassing. You have no argument.
Bruh, did you even read the definition of a tax? If it's an insurance, then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor, not having some person tell me what to do with my body......wait, that argument sounds VERY familiar used by a certain American party with a donkey, hmmmmm?

No, families that use the plan are mostly middle-class. They're being screwed. Stop sticking up for the crook, please

Then improve the public school system. You're not benefiting anybody when you're spending government money and nothing comes out of it because the laws of supply and demand say when you have too much of one thing (this case a college degree) then it's value decrease dramatically, forcing people to spend their own money in order to be attractive to prospective employers.

No, I do have an argument. You just refuse to be open-minded to a person that disagrees with you and instead say something is embarrassing
You can have your own plan with your own doctor. If being forced to have good and cheap healthcare is so terrible to you, please, move to Somalia.

It says it extremely clearly in your link it's 3% of families of which the majority of that 3% are high income families. I know you have a habit of not reading the links you post, but this one is really a 10/10 read I really recommend it.

So we can't improve public schooling and higher learning at the same time?

And you're seriously going to act like Obama's recent announcement has anything to do with the growing problem of too many people having degrees?

Seriously, you're taking a non issue, twisting the facts, and then blaming it all on Obama because... he's black? He's doing what he said he would. Looking out for the middle class by closing tax loopholes for the wealthy. Sorry pal, I know my stuff and the economy is my living. Some kid going to school to be a cop with an irrational hatred for the Democratic Party and Obama isn't going to trick me.

33998
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:09:43 PM »
then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor,
You do. I have my own plan with my own doctor.
*Aside from the fact thousands have lost their doctors and/or plans and certain plans are ineligible
A LOT OF THESE SAME PEOPLE HAVE REFUSED TO EVEN GO ON THE OBAMACARE WEB PAGE

33999
The Flood / Re: ITT: post your user tiers
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:02:07 PM »
I love how when Verb does this, everyone loves it, but it's somehow cringy when I do. Whatever, though, I shouldn't be surprised.

34000
Serious / Re: Would you bang a drunk chick?
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:58:46 PM »
Yes.

34001
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:53:44 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs
>yfw obama wants to protect middle class
>yfw obama makes free college
>yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college"
>yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money
>yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive


>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/
http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college
http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax.  And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED

I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.

"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem?

Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.

And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.

Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.
It is a tax

tax
taks/Submit
noun
1.
a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.

You have to buy insurance or face consequences; it's compulsory

So you're aware in his address that he mentions protecting the middle class?

It does correlate. In order to pay for "free" college (nothing is ever free), he's going to tax a program used predominately by middle class families and tax it........when he said he was going to protect the middle class. If you don't see ANYTHING wrong about that then I don't know what else to say

My last link compares the cost of a 2-year degree to a 4-year degree, where a semester at a 4-year degree is more expensive than a 2-year degree. More people with a 2-year degree means having to get a 4-year or higher degree which costs more money, a fact that makes the entire plan redundant

This is embarrassing? Showing how this plan is a big joke is embarrassing? Why am I not surprised by your words?
It's insurance. Not a tax.

3% of families (they're mostly high income families) use the 529. The middle class isn't being screwed.

The point is educating people more. America is severely behind in education.  A 2 year government/tax funded degree is better than nothing.

Yes. Embarrassing. You have no argument.

34002
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:44:33 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs
>yfw obama wants to protect middle class
>yfw obama makes free college
>yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college"
>yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money
>yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive


>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/
http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college
http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax.  And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED

I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.

"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem? 3% of families use the 529.

Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.

And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.

Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.

34004
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:13:05 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs
>yfw obama wants to protect middle class
>yfw obama makes free college
>yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college"
>yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money
>yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive


>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.

34005
The Flood / Re: ITT: post your user tiers
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:11:04 PM »
Is it just me or has SecondClass become a lot more cringy?
It's just you.
I don't know man. Kinda going down the wrong route. 

34006
The Flood / Re: ITT: post your user tiers
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:10:28 PM »
Is it just me or has SecondClass become a lot more cringy?
real talk: are you black?
wat
are
you
black?
why
would
that
matter?
it doesn't, but that doesn't dull my curiosity.
I'm not. Why do you ask?
i've always thought you were.
What

But I'm from Iran. And I've always said I'm white. I grew up in LA though.

34007
Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:02:47 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs
>yfw obama wants to protect middle class
>yfw obama makes free college
>yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college"
>yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money
>yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive


>shitposting in Serious

34009
The Flood / Re: ITT: post your user tiers
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:59:06 PM »

34010
The Flood / Re: ITT: post your user tiers
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:57:22 PM »
Is it just me or has SecondClass become a lot more cringy?
real talk: are you black?
wat

34011
The Flood / Re: ITT: post your user tiers
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:55:10 PM »
Is it just me or has SecondClass become a lot more cringy?

34014
The Flood / Re: That's it. I am so done with Bungie right now.
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:40:31 PM »

34015
The Flood / Re: Pls stop with the boring threads.
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:35:16 PM »

34017
The Flood / Re: Pls stop with the boring threads.
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:30:28 PM »

34018
The Flood / Re: Pls stop with the boring threads.
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:29:24 PM »

34019
The Flood / Pls stop with the boring threads.
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:26:16 PM »
FUCKING STOP

34020
The Flood / Re: Is squatting a girl exercise?
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:19:12 PM »
Yeah it's gay.

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