Joke's on you, I don't live in a nanny state.

Sanction this, commie.

Thing is, the yank system for sectioning is even more ripe for abuse iirc

10/10 for having the patient's family have to pay for someone who is detained indefinitely 'against their will'

Get a job.

I'm waiting for the shift to open up again at the shop <_<

I had a job, I just missed it because we didn't appease the omnissiah enough to have a properly functioning landline <______<

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double fail

congrats! and good luck heading for a doctorate. i'm on the same path for chemistry (undergrad atm, looking to pursue a doctorate).

Ah very nice, good luck with yours <.<

How far along with your undergrad are you?

http://digest.bps.org.uk/2015/06/is-cbt-for-depression-losing-its.html

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) has many advantages for treating depression. Among them, the fact that it's easy to standardise, it's intuitive and it can deliver results relatively quickly (think weeks, not years as some other therapies demand). For many people with depression, it's also far more acceptable than the prospect of taking mind-altering drugs. But now the bad news: CBT's efficacy seems to be declining.

That's the suggestion of a new meta-analysis (pdf) that's looked at outcome data from 70 studies published between 1977 and 2014 and involving more than 2,426 people diagnosed with depression (uni polar depression, not bipolar). Across studies, 31 per cent of the participants were male; the average age of participants was 41.

To allow comparison over time, Tom Johnsen and Oddgeir Friborg chose to focus only on studies that used the Beck Depression Inventory or the Hamilton Depression Rating Scale – two popular measures that involve the patient or therapist, respectively, providing scores of the patient's depression. Looking at the effect of CBT on adults' depression scores using either of these scales (i.e. by comparing scores pre vs. post therapy), the researchers found a linear and steady reduction in the therapy's apparent efficacy over time. Simply put, CBT doesn't seem to be helping reduce depression symptoms as much today as it used to when it was first developed in the 1970s.

This main finding held true even when the researchers focused on certain types of study – such as analysing only those that involved a control group. The finding can't be explained by a general change in people's ability to recover from depression: there was no comparable decline in change scores among participants in control groups who didn't receive CBT. Nor is it the case that recent studies, more than older studies, tended to involve depressed patients who also had other mental health problems (in fact the opposite is true).

Changes in therapist competence (e.g. their level of training) also can't explain the declining trend in CBT efficacy. And to debunk one last potential explanation, the researchers point out that the decline in efficacy was actually steeper for trials involving manualised CBT – so it's not the case that more modern trials have simply become sloppier in their CBT methods.

So, why is CBT apparently losing it's power to help people with depression? Johnsen and Friborg can only speculate. One suggestion they have is that CBT is somehow losing its placebo effect over time:

    In the initial phase of the cognitive era, CBT was frequently portrayed as the gold standard for the treatment of many disorders. In recent times, however, an increasing number of studies ... have not found this method to be superior to other techniques. Coupled with the increasing availability of such information to the public, including the Internet, it is not inconceivable that patients’ hope and faith in the efficacy of CBT has decreased somewhat, in recent decades. Moreover, whether widespread knowledge of the present meta-analysis results might worsen the situation, remains an open question."

If their suggestion/hypothesis is indeed correct, then making a thread about this is going to be unhelpful in the wider view of things but it's raised an interesting question in my mind.

Should Psychologists/Psychiatrists suppress this information for the good of the general public and the effectiveness of the treatments being provided to patients with depression?
In a similar manner to how doctors are starting to have to get really picky over antibiotics because the widespread usage of them has dampened the effectiveness as everyone and their mum received a bottle of flucloxacillin for a cough and cold  thus increasing antibiotic resistant strains of infections.

The comparison here would be that maintaining public belief in the effectiveness of a psychological therapy ensures that the psychological therapy is more successful, even if it requires deception to do so.

Alternatively, to combat this since public opinion is shifting more to neuroscience worship should CBT induct bio-feedback and some placebo brainscanning to make it more effective in patients?

God dammit they have valkyria chronicles for £3.74 <_______<

I'm going to have to rob a hobo again

Um...

Neko? Psy?
Care to translate?
I'm pretty sure it's speaking weeb.

*Mod power abuse time*

Minna ga daisuki da

I love everyone

I had to go to the video and transcribe it properly because zesty did a pigs ear of it.


Next bit is easier

tl;dr gibberish song lyrics from the video he linked.

who's next bros?

Don't tempt fate like that <_<

oh

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Looks like I get the last laugh Das <_<

Not if I have anything to say about it.

I really hope you don't .____.

Because either you don't know what you are putting your foot in, in which case run. Or you do and you should in no uncertain terms 0845 790 9090

I'd call this number and record a funny conversation for you guys but I don't want you to know what my voice sounds like.

You do know the number right? <.<

Yeah I'm on the phone right now lol

oh

Well this is why it's not recommended to talk to Das for more than 30 minutes each day.

LOL I didn't actually call. 

Is it the suicide hotline number?

Yeah, Samaritans <_<

I don't like telling people to kill themselves but I'm happy for the meaning to be inferred by the tactical use of a string of digits <_<

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Looks like I get the last laugh Das <_<

Not if I have anything to say about it.

I really hope you don't .____.

Because either you don't know what you are putting your foot in, in which case run. Or you do and you should in no uncertain terms 0845 790 9090

I'd call this number and record a funny conversation for you guys but I don't want you to know what my voice sounds like.

You do know the number right? <.<

Looks like I get the last laugh Das <_<

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dude's just an idiot who does not understand transgenderism, nor does he want to take the time to even begin to try to understand it, much less empathize with those effected by it.

But can you at not least consider the possibility that transgenderism may just be psychological?

the fact that your hormones are all screwy and your brain chemistry is different in transgenders would indicate it isn't just psychological.

Isn't mental illness basically just brain chemistry?

But idk. I remain ambivalent about the whole transgender issue so I don't completely agree with the guy, just like I don't completely agree with the idea that it's a new civil rights movement. To be honest, I don't think we even know what it is yet.

To some extent it is, but it's not completely reducible to it.
It very often plays a role but varies between illnesses and even within them.

Depression is a good model because you have the Serotonin/Dopamine/Melatonin balances to contrast with the cognitive aspects of it. You can very rarely treat it with one or the other, serious depression that is as opposed to mild depression. If you just chuck prozac at someone it's not going to teach them how to manage the condition so you end up with little overall improvement and frequent relapses.

Then you have personality disorders and the like, some of which are strongly psychological and some are closer to biological. It's a bit of clusterfuck really >.>

Something like Schizophrenia though, that has a pretty strong bio-chem-neuro-genetic basis and is rarely* something that would just spontaneously appear in an otherwise healthy individual and when it does appear you'd be looking at family history pretty much as soon as it's being diagnosed.

*I'd say never but you never say never.

Short answer: No, it's not <.<

So what do you think of Paul McHugh, the ex psychiatric professor at John Hopkins university, the leading university for transgender surgery, coming out and claiming that transgenderism is a mental illness?

Hmm well it would depend on what he means by that but he's not necessarily wrong.

It depends on how you intepret mental illness, because if you go by it means that it's something wrong that can be cured and should be cured i.e reverting to normality then that's fine for some illnesses like depression but for other more complex ones it doesn't apply well.

It's an abnormality that can cause great distress to the person, some people need guidance and counselling to sort out their identity issues but others require more drastic treatment to solve the problem. I view the surgery and HRTs as the same sort of treatment as sticking someone on SSRIs, you are altering the physical form to ease the distress or pain of the mental form. The two obviously aren't the same thing, but it's a comparison >.>

So it is an illness of sorts, and the treatment is either counselling or surgery to solve the problem because there have been a fair few demonstrations of the problems with trying to force someone's mind into something that it doesn't recognise. A bit like trying to hammer a square block into the circle hole. Sure you can probably get it to fit but it'll fuck a lot of shit up on it's way in.

I'm of the general opinion that the mind is the valuable part of a human and is what makes them human. The body is a shell to encase the mind and keep it functioning, fed and safe but beyond that it's nothing more than a sack of flesh and bones. If in order to relieve the problems of the mind you have to alter the flesh, then provided it's assessed reasonably that the alteration will infact ease the problems of the mind then there shouldn't be a problem with doing so.

(But as a footnote, if the guy was implying that because it's a mental illness they shouldn't be allowed to make their own choices over their physical body in the same vein as you would deny a suicidal man access to a knife to butcher his wrists and throat then he's clearly barking up the wrong tree <.<

There are some mental illnesses that affect your judgement to the extent that you cannot be responsible for your own wellbeing but that doesn't mean that anyone with any form of illness is suddenly incapable of making rational decisions >.>)

Fallout 4

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Fucking squares ITT

[Censored by the officio haramitus]

Blood sacrifice is appreciated, but lewd remarks are not &amp;lt;_&amp;lt;

I could make you bleed if that's what you're in to...

I was going to remark about the unusual ability to turn any sentence lewd but then I remembered this is you after all and I should be grateful that sentence didn't trigger the auto-blindness &lt;_&lt;

So... I should beat you untill you're blind?

no

If there is something particularly unpleasant to read, the words cease to be words. It's how I remain sane* when talking to lewd folk like yourself and yuta ._.

YouTube

I just remembered this was a thing.
Did anyone bother seeing this?

I remember seeing a trailer for it and I remember blocking it out with a 'Do not play' label stamped on it in muh head so I'm guessing that there is a reason why I don't recall the details.