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The Flood / Re: Time to.drunkpost agaon
« on: January 14, 2017, 03:42:27 PM »
''No drugs, No alcohol, No cigarettes.'' ~ the God-Emperor of Mankind prior to his ascension

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Gaming / Re: Halo Wars 2 Has Campaign DLC.
« on: January 14, 2017, 03:17:11 PM »
Yet another red flag, lovely.


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The Flood / Re: ultra rare oc pepe don't steal
« on: January 14, 2017, 11:53:59 AM »
>Fucking sweet Loli con ass

Das should be purged from the gene pool.
imblygning that he will contribute to it

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Serious / Re: Gender identity is biological
« on: January 14, 2017, 07:31:24 AM »
If that were to become possible, I'm worried about the morality of such treatment. Wouldn't it be comparable with the forced sex realignment or whatever it's called that's done on intersex people?
I'm not entirely familiar with the forced realignment procedure for intersex, is that the same as assigning hemaphrodite infants?
Good points all around in this discussion, I don't have much to add.
Yes, that is what I meant, although I believe that the term hermaphrodite is considered offensive. Intersex should mean pretty much the same thing (I actually had to google it to even remember)
I really do hate the euphemism treadmill.

I can understand not using stuff that is outright derogatory (like faggot) but it annoys me when the latest round of inoffensive words rolls into town because in 10 years time you'll have the same thing happen all over again.

But yeah, that'd be about it.

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Serious / Re: Gender identity is biological
« on: January 13, 2017, 08:32:16 PM »
ACKCHYUALLY

It's pretty well established, but it doesn't lay it to rest sadly.
Maybe in a few years time there will be enough research out there to lead to better treatment for dysphoria, whichever way it ends up going. I wonder if it's preventable though, if it were detectable early enough (in the same way that accurate detection of ASD is getting earlier and earlier) it *might* be possible to use the plasticity to realign gender identity so that the mind matches the vessel well before cognition kicks off.

Infant neurons are wonderfully malleable, so early treatment might spare the person a lot of strife in later life.

Whether or not it's right to do that is another question entirely though.
If that were to become possible, I'm worried about the morality of such treatment. Wouldn't it be comparable with the forced sex realignment or whatever it's called that's done on intersex people?
I wouldn't think so. While I'm in full support of the LGBT community and their rights, I think it can be agreed that the existence of varying sexualties and gender identities is just sort of a problematic mess to begin with. Without taking this the wrong way, I think the world would be better off if gender dysphoria didn't exist, only because of the amount of suffering it causes. If it turns out this is detectable and treatable in the future at such an early stage, I think it'd be best to go through with the process.

At least those are just my initial thoughts, I really have never thought about this particular idea.

Could always do both. If you've the tech to "fix" gender disphoria then that should mean you can allow transition either way. Which leaves a choice open, whether or not to go with your born sex or choose to go elsewhere.

Hopefully as time goes on all fields will improve to allow flexability of choice.
I would imagine any radical changes like that would need to be done in the very early stages of development, when the brain is most able to adapt to change. It might be possible in early childhood still, but probably after the onset of puberty the chances of a good alteration would sharply decrease.

This is using asd as a model mind you, it might well be possible to adjust someone's biological identity up until early adulthood.

This is of course theorizing it's even possible in the first place.

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Serious / Re: Gender identity is biological
« on: January 13, 2017, 04:57:11 PM »
ACKCHYUALLY

It's pretty well established, but it doesn't lay it to rest sadly.
Maybe in a few years time there will be enough research out there to lead to better treatment for dysphoria, whichever way it ends up going. I wonder if it's preventable though, if it were detectable early enough (in the same way that accurate detection of ASD is getting earlier and earlier) it *might* be possible to use the plasticity to realign gender identity so that the mind matches the vessel well before cognition kicks off.

Infant neurons are wonderfully malleable, so early treatment might spare the person a lot of strife in later life.

Whether or not it's right to do that is another question entirely though.
If that were to become possible, I'm worried about the morality of such treatment. Wouldn't it be comparable with the forced sex realignment or whatever it's called that's done on intersex people?
I think it would come down to weighing up the option that leads to the least suffering for the person.

If you are looking at a newborn, and can see that it's neurology is incompatible/misaligned with it's biological gender, then provided you have a safe intervention I think it would be permissable on the individual level to give it a nudge in the other direction. To me, it would be similar to intervening with aneurotypical children (i.e Autism). Whilst you are technically making a fundamental change to the person that the infant grows up to be, you are (hopefully) going to make their life a less difficult one.

The wider picture doesn't look so pretty though, society is not entirely comfortable with transgender people (and the fanatical lobbying really isn't helping matters imo), and adding something that cements it as being the product of a neurological illness isn't really going to help ensure that their rights are respected as human beans.

I'm not entirely familiar with the forced realignment procedure for intersex, is that the same as assigning hemaphrodite infants?

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The Flood / Re: What are the largest immigrant groups in your area?
« on: January 13, 2017, 01:47:50 PM »
Where I live? Mostly white European with a slight second to Southern Indian on the Northern side of town.

Where I grew up and went to school? Italian.

Where I work? Middle-Eastern/North-Western Indian and Portuguese.

Gotta say, I prefer where I work and grew up to where I live. Pakis are shit but Porkchops ain't bad. Wops are all talk but at least they're good to talk with ahout cars and shit. The racism in my neighbourhood is ridiculous against my family and I.
But aren't you white?
Oh you haven't realized Das?! Its because Prehistoric is actually one of those
Spoiler
le Jews
disgusting.
Get the fuck off my forum, kike
fix your shuckle schlomo
12th night has already passed

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Serious / Re: Gender identity is biological
« on: January 13, 2017, 01:40:34 PM »
ACKCHYUALLY

It's pretty well established, but it doesn't lay it to rest sadly.
Maybe in a few years time there will be enough research out there to lead to better treatment for dysphoria, whichever way it ends up going. I wonder if it's preventable though, if it were detectable early enough (in the same way that accurate detection of ASD is getting earlier and earlier) it *might* be possible to use the plasticity to realign gender identity so that the mind matches the vessel well before cognition kicks off.

Infant neurons are wonderfully malleable, so early treatment might spare the person a lot of strife in later life.

Whether or not it's right to do that is another question entirely though.
Only a truly evil person would want to get rid of traps
Mike Pence will rid this world of the deviant, just you wait.

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The Flood / Re: What are the largest immigrant groups in your area?
« on: January 13, 2017, 01:16:14 PM »
There's one polish lady who lives somewhere in the district, so I guess that would be it.

I like the poles, for all the idiocy that the newspapers in the uk liked to drum up about them they're a good bunch.

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The Flood / Re: Wish we could turn back time, to the good old days
« on: January 13, 2017, 01:13:09 PM »
Psy what the fuck is your avatar
Gone fishin'

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Serious / Re: Gender identity is biological
« on: January 13, 2017, 01:06:46 PM »
ACKCHYUALLY

It's pretty well established, but it doesn't lay it to rest sadly.
Maybe in a few years time there will be enough research out there to lead to better treatment for dysphoria, whichever way it ends up going. I wonder if it's preventable though, if it were detectable early enough (in the same way that accurate detection of ASD is getting earlier and earlier) it *might* be possible to use the plasticity to realign gender identity so that the mind matches the vessel well before cognition kicks off.

Infant neurons are wonderfully malleable, so early treatment might spare the person a lot of strife in later life.

Whether or not it's right to do that is another question entirely though.

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You people should all just get in on the same Discord server instead of having all these different ones. It's confusing.
Yeah but let's be honest here who else w
unban everyone who is banned
^^^this^^^

But the mods don't want a shit storm. I even offered to be the clean up crew when I was a mod. They still said "no". :(
I'd be game for unbanning some of them, but the people who just spammed meatspin until they got perma'd aren't going to add anything to the forum.
In this scenario, would verb be unbanned as well? Purely hypothetically, of course.
I would imagine so

It depends on when this hypothetical would be implemented, if it happened in a month he'd be unbanned anyway (afaik) but if it happened tomorrow it would be rather unfair to keep him banned.

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You people should all just get in on the same Discord server instead of having all these different ones. It's confusing.
Yeah but let's be honest here who else w
unban everyone who is banned
^^^this^^^

But the mods don't want a shit storm. I even offered to be the clean up crew when I was a mod. They still said "no". :(
I'd be game for unbanning some of them, but the people who just spammed meatspin until they got perma'd aren't going to add anything to the forum.

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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 13, 2017, 11:31:35 AM »
Violent against ourselves though? He lived during civil unrest yes, but there was a government in place, and he wasn't around thousands of years beforehand to see if out tribal primitive selves were killing each other sadistically. We were small wandering groups that would hunt just to survive, attacking your own people would be counterproductive.
Ehhhhhhhh

It depends really, hunting to survive began to turn into hunting to show prowess (mate attraction/social power). If you mean your own tribe by own people, then yeah that's counterproductive but even then, for mate attraction and social standing infighting and the killing of rivals/challengers (alpha status) isn't necessarily counterproductive for the individual.

Any social hierarchy; tribes, prides, troops and groups will have internal violence for a member to establish dominance to ensure their genetic future.

And inter-group conflict was rampant in early man (and is still observable in chimps today, it's pretty disturbing watching chimpanzees going to war in a natural parody of humans), because that's over control of resources like food and water. Archeological finds make it fairly clear what tribes would do to one another, not a whole lot of speculation needed when the bones have teeth and knife marks in.


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The Flood / Re: Wish we could turn back time, to the good old days
« on: January 13, 2017, 10:19:11 AM »
WHERE DID WE GO WRONG
OUR FUHRER'S GONE
WE WENT TO FAR WITH THE LEBANSRAUM
AND I WOULD HAVE SIEG HEILED
BESIDE THE RHINE
HAD I KNOWN HOW TO SAVE THE REICH
Do you hear the people Reee?

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The Flood / Re: Wish we could turn back time, to the good old days
« on: January 13, 2017, 10:18:21 AM »
1:46

Is that mogadishu or calais?

legit question

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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 13, 2017, 10:16:57 AM »
The fact that we have the capacity to choose means we're not mindless beasts destined to kill each other. We don't need a supreme authority to tell us not to; having Empathy is a common thing in almost every human. When we went over the book back when I was still in college, my professor contrasted Leviathan with a book written by another individual I think a century later, I can't remember the name of it at the moment but if I do I'll mention it, but it basically was the exact opposite of Hobbe's line of thinking.

We are though

Humans are inherently violent, we just have the capacity to choose to behave otherwise.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for a one world government (although I'd join the sibyl system in a heartbeat) but humans are a violent species by default.

Look at food for example

When food is freely available, people are content. When hunger starts to set in, people get agitated. When hunger becomes insatiable, people will use violence to obtain food.

You can view it on the societal level (French revolution) or on the individual level (hambeasts).

Someday we might evolve to a point where violence isn't a preprogrammed response, but whilst we live in a technologically advanced world our bodies and brains are still only a small jump down from the trees.

Then you also have the slightly tangential thing, where the more intelligent a species becomes the more sadistic it becomes. Cats, Dolphins and Chimpanzees give humans a run for their money when it comes to violence for entertainment.

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The Flood / Re: tea is godamn good
« on: January 13, 2017, 07:35:49 AM »
Ceylon tea is still my favourite black tea, but when you need something to wake you up yorkshire tea seems to do the trick.

Ayurvedic tea tho, that shit is great.

I've also got some bamboo tea, that's fairly interesting. Kind of like a weird green tea.

Oh and Icelandic moss tea, tastes very strange but it's a nice kind of bitter taste.

Still haven't found a way to get some of the hands down best tea in za warudo again though. Someone brought back some choco-earl grey from barcelona and god damn that was good.

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Should have been Snowden. Obama will go down as the worst president in US history.
Lol

this is serious, loser.
When was this section ever serious?
back in the good old days when a thread was composed of LOOOOOOOOL KILL YOURSELF MENTALLY RETARDED SPACESHUTTLECHALLENGER XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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The Flood / Re: THE FIRE RISES
« on: January 13, 2017, 07:02:36 AM »
oyyyyyyyyyyyyy veyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 13, 2017, 07:01:09 AM »
At first, the idea of a central absolute government makes sense because of things such as civil war and unrest since that's the point in having one. However the book goes on to say that man in inherently violent against himself, which is absolute bullshit. And says we HAVE to be part of the social contract to keep us from killing each other; which is once again, bullshit.

You don't understand Hobbes.
We are though

Humans are inherently violent, we just have the capacity to choose to behave otherwise.

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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 12, 2017, 10:35:07 AM »
I don't want to live detached from civilisation but I do like the idea of living in a rural community.
Seriously fuck cities.
The only good city is just a really large town.
Aye. Colchester's just about small enough for me.
I've always liked Worcester because it doesn't feel like a city.
It's got a nice peaceful air to it, rather than the chicken run bedlam of brummayyyyyy.
Worcester? From the famous Warchestershree sauce?
Yes

Quote
Warchestershree

To the tower with you.
Is mispronouncing it a capital offense?
It's a fate worse than that, it's deportation to the colonies.

Why do you think the yanks can't talk properly and the aussies all sound funny?

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The Flood / Re: What's the biggest animal you personally have killed?
« on: January 12, 2017, 08:48:51 AM »
A human
that's hardcore man
I'm just waiting for the day when I can step it up and take down an elephant.
a blue whale is the largest known animal to have ever existed, is that the next step after that?

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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 12, 2017, 08:45:03 AM »
I've always liked Worcester because it doesn't feel like a city.
Yeah, Worcester's nice.

God bless Worcestershire; the greatest place on the planet.
A fine place to end a civil war too.


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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 12, 2017, 08:42:36 AM »
I don't want to live detached from civilisation but I do like the idea of living in a rural community.
Seriously fuck cities.
The only good city is just a really large town.
Aye. Colchester's just about small enough for me.
I've always liked Worcester because it doesn't feel like a city.
It's got a nice peaceful air to it, rather than the chicken run bedlam of brummayyyyyy.
Worcester? From the famous Warchestershree sauce?
Yes

Quote
Warchestershree

To the tower with you.

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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 12, 2017, 08:34:12 AM »
I don't want to live detached from civilisation but I do like the idea of living in a rural community.
Seriously fuck cities.
The only good city is just a really large town.
Aye. Colchester's just about small enough for me.
I've always liked Worcester because it doesn't feel like a city.
It's got a nice peaceful air to it, rather than the chicken run bedlam of brummayyyyyy.

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Gaming / Re: Games that you've never finished
« on: January 12, 2017, 07:17:29 AM »
So far I've been pretty good this generation.

It's only Ryse that's sat on the shelf unfinished

DA:I I didn't start the story on because eeeeeh, the MP was fun though.
Dynasty Warriors too I guess, I completed DW8 fully on the PS4 and since then I haven't really been inclined to play another one fully.

Last gen was terrible though
I had about 8 games that I'd played a few hours of and left to play more BF3 :<

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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 12, 2017, 06:38:08 AM »
I don't want to live detached from civilisation but I do like the idea of living in a rural community.
Seriously fuck cities.
The only good city is just a really large town.

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Serious / Re: I just want to opt out of society
« on: January 12, 2017, 06:36:20 AM »
I don't want to live detached from civilisation but I do like the idea of living in a rural community. All i would need is super fast internet and I'd live easy af
Move up here

Lots of trees and smol villages, but we still have fibre optic.

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