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Messages - Loaf
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« on: December 04, 2019, 12:41:09 PM »
remember how you needed to get "tremendously high" in order to understand basic epistemology
?
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« on: December 04, 2019, 12:22:21 PM »
What is the discord chat called?
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« on: December 04, 2019, 12:21:37 PM »
NIGGERS FUCKING FEMININE PENIS, BOY PUSSY, HOLLA AT YA BOY jESUS cHRIST.
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« on: October 25, 2019, 01:19:14 PM »
i came to this conclusion sober, because i'm not pathetically stupid
Thank you for announcing your insecurity.
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« on: October 25, 2019, 12:40:52 PM »
A conclusion I came to recently, after getting tremendously high, was that Godel’s proof shows that no axiomatic system can ever be coherent. Not Wittgenstein’s attempt at “ending philosophy” with the tractatus, the general model of physics which breaks down when you try to combine gravity and quantum physics, or Bertrand Russell’s attempt to create a “closed mathematical system”, result in anything but a system which must expand endlessly to account for all of its own contradictions.
What this tells me is anything we try to give ourselves to gain familiarity, which is really just an attempt to prove Hume’s problem of induction wrong, can ever produce “coherence” in anything systematic sense. Our own perceptions can operate on these systems in a highly local level, in that we can use small equations, and make basic metaphysical statements, like Aristotle does, but we will never grasp the whole.
I am certainly an atheist, in that calling “god” anything other than Spinoza’s deterministic whole makes no sense to me (and saying there is a deterministic whole in itself is kind of faith based, I believe in it because it seems to follow from what is demonstrable, in a sort of prima fasci way), because I’m not sure what exactly it is I’d be calling god, but I’ve become much more interested in Christian arguments like Aquinas after talking to my teacher recently who specializes in him. If the axioms we base our framework for reality on are never “proveable” in a truly systematic way, then what sort of assumptions is it possible to make and still be “consistent”? The fact that there is even a hint of doubt that religiosity doesn’t equal “unprovable” to me is fascinating in itself.
My girlfriend said very eloquently "god is the axiomatic whole". It would seem so. If one were to resolve the contradictions in these systems, they would know the nature of the universe.
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« on: September 21, 2019, 08:57:52 AM »
I'm kidding, of course. This ban is ridiculous, considering tobacco kills something like 500,000 people per year, and the vaping deaths were supposedly related to bootlegged vape cartridges that had weed oil in them, and you should never put oil into your lungs.
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« on: September 21, 2019, 08:54:17 AM »
Good. Keep America safe.
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« on: September 11, 2019, 05:35:46 AM »
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« on: June 01, 2019, 06:10:12 PM »
I think that it's the old fight or flight response in people's heads. Whenever someone with a different opinion comes round, instead off looking at what they sat rationally, they have an instinctual reaction in their brain which was evolutionarily evolved to protect them against threats (which makes you really think about how many times our ancestors must have been attacked by lions or warring nations that it must be so baked into our genetics). It's because of this programming that prevents humans from living peacefully, and yet degraded imbeciles prop up these things as virtues. It reminds of the fact that all humans are apes, and the degree of which a little burning in the amygdala incites their praise or mockery determines the entirety of our civilized endeavors. When did someone take the advice of Kant, and block out these earthly passions of praise or scorn begot of empirical biological determinism, in favor of the end in itself; the categorical imperative? Or Spinoza, who said how he labored not to scorn, but to understand? Pascal's wager. They don't wager it in favor of all encompassing biological determinism. What do they have to lose?
Of course, in a wager there's a bet. For them they must believe in free will because it gets them a ticket to heaven, in their reality, which requires a free will framework. For if we do not control our actions, and god truly punishes you, then he set you out on an assembly line to commit whatever sin you did and then you fall off the assembly into a fire of burning hell. But I thought no one but catholics believed in hell? Apparently not, there is apparently enough people who buy into the ideology of believing in hell, likely by force of societal pressure, who will display a speciously inexplicable aversion to the idea that we do not command our bodies, which is in fact nothing more than the excitement of the amygdala invoking a praise or scorn arbitrarily evoked by genetic predisposition.
Because this is genetics people will obviously think that our begotten condition is a result of incontrovertibly good natural processes. This is also the same argument used to condemn lgbt people, because it's not "natural". However, that proposition can be demolished by the simple fact that our same natural processes are responsible for wars, feuds, and all the things the bible says are sins like hatred, anger, jealousy, etc. The ultimate irony is all the so called "deadly sins" are just as much as natural and harmful as the supposedly unnatural. To a much greater extent is the natural more harmful than the unnatural. But this dichotomy is false, because there is not natural and unnatural, because everything is natural. Natural meaning occuring by the laws of physics and biology. If a person acts on biology to altar it, it is merely changing the path of matter in a way which is different. That is what it comes down to, is interminable differences. The differences are endless, in arrangements of our cells in infinitely complex patterns. There is no inherent good or bad, because everything is merely the playing out of cells.
This threatens mystical thinking. But it's these mystical thoughts, like good and bad, and morality, and religion, and politics which people impose on one another, and they play the game of playing a game of Pascal's Wager. In this game of chance that they play for a unintentionally catholic ideology, they dismiss the possibility that all feuds are for naught, and peace comes through the categorical imperative, which relies on the naive assumption that humans are inherently rational. Humans are inherently irrational, and therefore we will continue to impose unnecessary strife on each other. Like roman gladiators who tossed people in a ring to watch them fight. Human beings love violence.
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« on: May 28, 2019, 02:29:41 PM »
It’s disappointing how strong the drive to have a tribe is that one would subject oneself over and over again to groups in hope of gaining acceptance. If I had a choice in the matter and I was not limited by my capacity to control this biological desire, I would probably forego trying to find group acceptance. However, I think it is clear that if you want to interact with groups you will have to sacrifice some part of yourself in order to fit in. Perhaps a good compromise is to have only a few people who you can relate with, because it is hard to find more than a few.
That is the irrationality of people, that even though every person is experiencing the same world outside of their heads, they still invariably find some way to disagree with one another.
I think many people don’t realize that most people are completely unconcerned with intellectual honesty. They don’t care whether the positions they arrived at were arrived at through good faith. Everything which matters to a human being is completely a construct of their own invention. It only matters to us - every single one of our moral constructions, because the universe does not care, and our brain is part of the universe operating on the same laws of physics, so consequently our brains do not care about whether our thoughts are rational and irrational.
In fact, most thoughts are merely memes; things which our minds, or perhaps masses of minds latch on to because it is emotionally stimulating. As a result, most of our desires may feel like they were arrived at through sheer force of rationality, as though through free will. But because our brains operate on the same deterministic laws of physics as our indifferent cosmos, even the impulse to be rational wasn’t our decision. That is, if we were ever rational to begin with.
It becomes apparent that it is very difficult to tell whether one is rational or irrational, considering those who are most sure of their rationality are often the ones with the most confused perspectives of the world. As a consequence, it becomes very difficult to find meaningful interactions with those around you besides a very small few. Even then, sometimes people congregate with only people who reinforce their own biases in an echo chamber.
When you realize how irrational human beings are in general, and how to most people communicating on a deeper level is something they simply avoid to try to distance themselves from their own and others irrationality, it becomes a society in which the more you think, the more alien you become, and the more the people on the strange world you inhabit seem like confused animals which have privileged themselves as privileged with unique intelligence.
Sometimes I blame myself for this dilemma, sometimes I blame others for being weak minded fools, still other times I look at it from a balanced perspective and say that this is just the way of the universe. But either way, I am cruelly shackled to humanity as the only, unrivaled intelligent species on planet earth. Not only is there no god, which people cling to to give their lives meaning, there is the reality which the mask people call god covers up - the reality that the universe is indifferent.
One could, of course, take a positive approach when faced with this existential nightmare about the world. After all, even since there is little standard through which people hold each other in terms of intellectual honesty in general, and many people are likely to misinterpret what you say, and not even comprehend why you are wrong if you are wrong, but simply misconstrue your words out of inability to process your thoughts, you can still re-assure yourself that your position is reasonably consistent and rational. After all, you could drive yourself to follow the meme of rationality and self honesty to its logical conclusion and simply support nihilism.
It ultimately comes down to whether you make an arbitrary distinction optimism and pessimism; one would hope. One wants desperately to break free of this hopeless paradigm of uncertainty. But humans are not inherently rational, and you can try to fool your brain for a while, but eventually one will be thrown back to the original function of one’s biological machinery. Humans were never creatures built for logic; they are creatures built for tribal acceptance. One cannot extinguish the desire to conform, but the desire to conform can be conflicted with the desire to rebel, and the two subsequently cancel each other out. One is is left with no resolution, and ultimately, despair.
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« on: May 28, 2019, 11:58:00 AM »
You silly monkeys gonna nut in my pants a big load til I bust out a new born rainbow haired chode whose gonna tell me how good socialism is and how I need to hide my pride in my country indoors like I was some kinda homo nigger looking to display my sodomy and sin out in the open gonna tell me I'm not a man and want me to change my appearance into a woman til I don't have no grasp on anything that's real anymore. That's what the homo nigger man hating bitches want from us is to throw us into a bottomless pit of despair.
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« on: April 30, 2019, 04:25:52 AM »
How come you guys watch this stupid faggot shit?
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« on: April 29, 2019, 01:00:30 PM »
I was just thinking about arguments for why if god created human beings, that he would punish them for behaving in the way he would behave. I mean, man is supposedly created in god's image (convenient, considering man created the idea of god), so he's punishing people for what he would do. So not only does he love you infinitely, it's on the condition that he also hates you infinitely and would punish you in hell for eternity for not repenting for masturbating.
It seems a little draconian to punish people for eternity, especially how they describe it in Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man in the Catholic sermons describing hell, where basically ever possible imaginable torment is happening to you in every second of every day. That in itself seems really excessive, but of course it's totally arbitrary how you describe hell, and a lot of religious people don't even believe in hell, because religious people are stupid and have no continuity in what they believe, and just believe in doctrines created to try to control the dumb bewildered herd. That's why human nature is so hated by some religions.
But the one argument which I remember from my confirmation class when I was a kid, which was given by someone else, to the question of why god would create us a certain way and then punish us, was something along the lines of "if we didn't have jurisdiction over our own actions, then we couldn't be free". Which first of all, begs the question of whether we're free, and second of all, raises the question of why you would want to be free if it meant god wants to punish you for whatever reason the church authorities make up.
Either way the concept of freedom is irrelevant to most people. Most people don't even care if they're biologically free, in a sense of the physical laws of the universe, or will try to escape the question by proposing an immortal soul which somehow drives the body and overlaps the body, and controls it through spooky magical forces. I don't think most people really think that hard about it though.
The only reason I'm thinking about this at all is because I've been reading James Joyce and I've been reading through parts with Catholic sermons, and I've been really really annoyed at page after page of preachers describing the torments of hell. Either way it's just a bunch of brainwashing bullshit to make people feel ashamed of themselves, and make them follow the lowest form of morality, which is doing something moral because you're afraid of punishment as opposed to doing it because it's the right thing to do.
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« on: April 29, 2019, 12:59:35 PM »
why u gotta be racist
I'm not racist. I'm a black lives matter queer intersectional feminist eco socialist.
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« on: April 28, 2019, 11:12:22 AM »
I just wanted to remind you.
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« on: April 28, 2019, 11:01:41 AM »
There's been 3 armed robberies at my college in the past couple months. When the fuck will someone do something to control these niggers?
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« on: April 15, 2019, 11:44:45 AM »
An adopted child can never share a kinship with their parents, they do not have the same genes, therefor they do not share traits with their adopted parents. They are only aliens which cannot ever truly be love the way a blood child can be.
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« on: April 09, 2019, 07:08:17 AM »
I too have a tea kettle, but I use it for making coffee
So do I. With my french press.
I just use a little strainer I have, put it a filter. The strainer is just the right size to sit on top of my mug-bowl
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, that's rich.
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« on: April 07, 2019, 03:58:39 PM »
I too have a tea kettle, but I use it for making coffee
So do I. With my french press.
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« on: April 07, 2019, 01:04:43 PM »
Stop Posting
Signed
Everyone
Oh come on. You should at least give me points for style.
The day I give you a point for style is the day Bungie announces they're bring the old flood forum back and Mitsubishi brings back the Evo
Such hate I do not deserve.
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« on: April 07, 2019, 12:54:24 PM »
Stop Posting
Signed
Everyone
Oh come on. You should at least give me points for style.
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« on: April 07, 2019, 11:52:08 AM »
My water kettle which I boil water in was just whistling and boiling, and I listened to it and thought "my tea kettle is making the big nigger". I like associating random events with the word nigger, it's a strange thing. Probably because we associate the word nigger with strange things, for strange reasons. So I felt inspired to use it in my own way inspired by the phonetic pop which the word makes. One makes a reving sound with ones vocal chords as if revving a motorcycle nnnNNNIGGERRRRrrrrrr. The n is held, the IGGER come quick, and the r trails off like a leaving train. A full rev up, acceleration, and then departure, as real as time's passing itself.
Also, I have an autobiographical story to tell. A nigger stole. This is my 3 word story, but there was in fact an armed nigger who robbed a student at my college at gunpoint recently. Of course one must not generalize based on a handful of people, of course. I have nothing against black people whatsoever. But have you ever read Nabokov? He had an appreciation for literature which pushed the edge.
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« on: March 27, 2019, 08:22:30 PM »
Why would the people in this thread be fucking up a positivity thread with rudeness? Yall are so mean to Second Class. She's a beautiful girl.
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« on: March 27, 2019, 07:03:31 PM »
how about instead of lesbians we turn the incels in to little sissy faggot bois who live to serve chad cock all day?
THAT'S AN EVEN BETTER IDEA
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« on: March 27, 2019, 06:43:36 PM »
You know how incels are really mad because no one will have sex with them because in their mind social darwinism is at play in which the most masculine and socially dominant men are the ones who get all the pussy, and they feel that they don't have the proper genetics to become a chad and therefore they are doomed to a life of involuntary celibacy? We should advocate that these troubled men become cute women, and date lesbians, because competing for masculinity is troublesomely toxic in the way that masculinity has wrought insecurity upon our young men.
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« on: March 19, 2019, 06:51:50 PM »
That's why you have to use a lot of lube
Hey, you said you wanted to plan and meet up so I could play with that big juicy ass of yours. You still down for that?
Ye buddy, just tell me when and where
CLEVELAND, THE WEEKEND.
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« on: March 18, 2019, 08:51:48 PM »
Loaf, Only Theatre of Pain is amazing, I'm pissed I slept on it for so long.
No dip, dude! I can't believe you're just now finding this out.
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« on: March 16, 2019, 04:44:51 PM »
That's why you have to use a lot of lube
Hey, you said you wanted to plan and meet up so I could play with that big juicy ass of yours. You still down for that?
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« on: March 16, 2019, 03:49:20 PM »
I was just sitting on my floor reading The Inferno by Dante and I'm not wearing pants, so my butt hole was gaping open and sucking in air. And I got the idea to see if I could lightly stick my finger up my butt and then pull it out again, but my sphincter closed on the tip of my finger. I thought about how buttholes are kind of like those chinese finger torture devices they sell at party stores.
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« on: March 11, 2019, 07:04:49 PM »
You go girl!
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