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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: January 03, 2016, 03:45:59 PM »
I could care less what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms. Have all the drug fueled orgies you want. It's none of my damn business nor is it anyone else's business.
So you'd be ok with your daughter or sister being a slut? Just doing drugs and being treated like a piece of meat?
If that's what she wants and isn't doing something that warrants an intervention like developing and heroin addiction then yes

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The Flood / Re: Grievous is interesting.
« on: January 02, 2016, 04:24:01 PM »
I can't believe he went from this.
YouTube


Fuck I forgot how badly they animated him. It's like they didn't even realize he was a robot; his limbs move like he's swinging around wet noodles.
Literally kill yourself

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The Flood / Re: Grievous is interesting.
« on: January 02, 2016, 04:22:35 PM »
>Grievous is introduced
>Incredibly smart, incredibly dangerous general
>Literally described as a Jedi hunter
>Collects their swords as trophies
>Hates them for killing his friends when he was a Kaleesh
>Enhanced with the blood of Sifo-Dyas, allowing him a certain level of force-sensitivity in order to resist the force
>Fights six Jedi at once his first time on-screen: One Padawan, three Knights, two Masters
>One is Ki-Adi Mundi, renoun for his use of the force and has held a position on the council for quite some time
>One is Shaak Ti, known for being one of the best duelists on the council
>Fights them both at the same time, literally toying with them the whole fight
>Manages to kill three and wound two more of the six
>Runs down buildings
>Kills two Jedi masters in about two seconds flat once he's unhinged his lower arms
>Goes toe-to-toe with Dooku, the greatest duelist alive

>Star Wars: Clone Wars
>Loses to Ahsoka Tano, Asajj Ventress, Kit Fisto, and some gungans

>Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith
>Loses two hands in 25 seconds
>Dies to a blaster shot

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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The Flood / Re: Winds of Winter still not finished, still a while off
« on: January 02, 2016, 09:03:40 AM »
God fucking dammit, man

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The Flood / Re: If you hate Kylo Ren because he was "too whiny"
« on: January 02, 2016, 12:30:12 AM »
I actually laughed when he was unmasked

looked like some poor British turn of the century factory woker.

I expected him to have some scruff, or at least SOME facial hair like he did at Comic Con
Well yeah, right now he's just a bitchy kid prone to temper tantrums

But he's crazy powerful so long as he's calm

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The Flood / Re: If you hate Kylo Ren because he was "too whiny"
« on: January 02, 2016, 12:19:39 AM »
Kylo Ren was a bitch

But he's not supposed to start out as a badass - he's gonna have a character arc just like everyone else. People keep complaining because he's not Darth Vader and I don't get it.

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Serious / Re: There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim
« on: January 02, 2016, 12:18:37 AM »
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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
I recently started going through the new testament so while I can't vouch for the other quotes, you're certainly taking this one out of context; the entire book of Mathew is literally Jesus preaching to everyone that they've fucked up and need to change their ways, and that it's gotten to the point where he has to speak in parables to most people since they wouldn't understand the truth if he told them directly. The quote you cherrypicked is him referring to how he's disrupting the current state of affairs.
Hum, well fair dues on that one, then.

But my point I'm making is that, just because the holy book says something, that doesn't mean that the large majority of the religion enforces or even accepts it. You can say that it makes them less of a "true [INSERT RELIGION HERE] " if you'd like, but that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. Most people are moderates, and you can cue the meme if you'd like, but, as Lemnator pointed out, the majority shouldn't be punished just because ISIS is more "true" or "classic" or whatever you'd like to call it.

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Serious / Re: There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim
« on: January 01, 2016, 08:38:53 PM »
So basically your O.K with ISIS killing people and terrorizing? Also lets not forget that ISIS had a "friendly welcome" to Paris, that's totally OK <_< *smh*
Lmao, what the fuck kind of logic is this?

"You're pro-gun? So you FUCKING SUPPORT THE MASSACRE OF INNOCENT CHILDREN?!?!"

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Serious / Re: There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim
« on: January 01, 2016, 05:06:31 PM »
Why are you allowed on the Serious forum?
I've broken no rules. Does free speech offend you? I can make another thread about that
F R E E Z E P E A C H

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Serious / Re: There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim
« on: January 01, 2016, 08:20:57 AM »
See the joke is that those quotes were Deuteronomy 17:12 Matthew 10:34-36, Isaiah 14:21, Numbers 31:17-18, and II Chronicles 15:13

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The Flood / Re: Anita Sarkeesian - Star Wars: The Force Awakens Review
« on: December 31, 2015, 03:27:42 PM »
Hum

For once I actually agree with everything Sarkeesian has to say

Never thought I'd say that in my life.

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Serious / Re: There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim
« on: December 31, 2015, 02:20:11 PM »
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Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents Allah must die.
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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Prepare a place to slaughter his children for the sins of their ancestors; they are not to rise to inherit the land and cover the earth with their cities.
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Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
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All who would not seek Allah, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.

Wow, gee, now that I look at it, maybe you're right.

That book really does encourage a lot of terrible things.

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Uh oh

Obummer is a communist socialist

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 31, 2015, 11:03:49 AM »
But charges of "sexism" and "racism" have been so diluted by people liberally throwing around such accusations that they don't really mean anything any more.

Such accusations should be serious, and should only be made with a clear mandate.
"People call other people out on casual racism and casual sexism pretty often and that annoys me. Grrrr."

Boo you.
The problem is that you're not paying attention, and accusing me of something of which I am not guilty. Nowhere have I said "promiscuous women are worse than promiscuous men". I've said repeatedly that I try not to judge promiscuous people, since I myself am promiscuous.

I'm trying to have a dispassionate discussion about the impact of promiscuity on either sex. I decry promiscuity in both sexes. You're either an idiot, or willfully misrepresenting our exchange to fit your narrative.
Or

OR

You said, "promiscuity in women makes their relationship bad" and then had no input on the men's side

Do you seriously not see how that, at the very least, SOUNDS incredibly sexist?

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 31, 2015, 10:53:08 AM »
But charges of "sexism" and "racism" have been so diluted by people liberally throwing around such accusations that they don't really mean anything any more.

Such accusations should be serious, and should only be made with a clear mandate.
"People call other people out on casual racism and casual sexism pretty often and that annoys me. Grrrr."

Boo you.

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 31, 2015, 10:52:17 AM »
I just don't get it, tho

Like, it's not like a religious, spiritual sort of thing like Tibetan monks or anything that takes severe power of will, it's just...being extremely boring and thinking that anything that might have a negative output in any form or factor is evil and should be eradicated from one's lifestyle.
you need to step back for a moment and reevaluate your life if you think abstinence from drugs, alcohol, and sex makes you "extremely boring"

like

for real
I don't.

One of my closest friends is a virgin at the age of 20 and has done exactly one shot of vodka ever in his life. No other drugs, no other substances, nothing.

But see, the thing is, he doesn't say that he hopes I overdose when me and my friends are out drinking and he's the DD, and doesn't say that me and Micheal are probably lowering our self worth and committing self destructive acts when we sleep around.

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 31, 2015, 09:16:21 AM »
I agree, but like I said, we all prefer to have some things to enjoy on our own, no?
No

i don't--that's the entire point of asceticism

if i had it my way, i'd eliminate every last one of my personal desires that only benefit me--i occasionally masturbate, and i'm trying to quit that, for example

i want nothing--and everyone else should be the same exact way
I wanna kill myself on the daily and I STILL feel happy that I'm not you

That's not even meant as an insult, just, like...how do you deal with having such a bleak outlook on literally every single facet of life and existence?
smugness that he isn't as immoral as others
I just don't get it, tho

Like, it's not like a religious, spiritual sort of thing like Tibetan monks or anything that takes severe power of will, it's just...being extremely boring and thinking that anything that might have a negative output in any form or factor is evil and should be eradicated from one's lifestyle.

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 31, 2015, 03:25:59 AM »
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I'm talking about sex. Stop hiding and running. This is about sex.
"Stop running and hiding by contextualizing my argument"

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Sex shouldn't be such a casual thing. Promiscuity is disgusting, especially in women.
Lmao what the fuck. Like, I disagree with your point, but then you just kick it up a notch by trying to police women in an incredibly sexist way. Good job, lad.

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The point is women need to respect themselves more and stop spreading their legs for every dog of a man that lusts after them.
Or maybe you just need to stop being so insecure about yourself and projecting that onto women. Sex is fun, why are women who are sexually promiscuous worth less than a man who is?

Like, I want to debate with you, but you're just coming back at me with shit that would've sounded outdated in the 70's. Please stop trying to police women. You can have your own opinions on sex and sexuality and, while I think they're silly, stepping that up to saying that sexually active women have lost their worth is just disgusting.

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This is irrelevant to promiscuity and sexual fetishes and sexual depravity.
It's really not but okay sure.

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Women have no respect for themselves these days. They prostitute themselves for money in the music industry. In movies. In TV shows.
Please die.

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Do you honestly think the way sex is portrayed today to be ok?
No, because there are still a bunch of backwards fools like you that think sex is something that should be valued above all else and that men have the right to police a woman's body and tell her how to dress and how to act.

You remind me of the type of people who say that a woman deserves to be raped for wearing revealing clothing because she was "asking for it".

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 31, 2015, 03:20:43 AM »
I agree, but like I said, we all prefer to have some things to enjoy on our own, no?
No

i don't--that's the entire point of asceticism

if i had it my way, i'd eliminate every last one of my personal desires that only benefit me--i occasionally masturbate, and i'm trying to quit that, for example

i want nothing--and everyone else should be the same exact way
I wanna kill myself on the daily and I STILL feel happy that I'm not you

That's not even meant as an insult, just, like...how do you deal with having such a bleak outlook on literally every single facet of life and existence?

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 31, 2015, 03:19:49 AM »
a woman's prior promiscuity is a good indicator of how successful her marriage will ultimately be.
And a man's?
I don't know.
Oh, so you're just sexist then. Alrighty.

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The Flood / Re: These "hoverboards"
« on: December 30, 2015, 01:53:36 PM »
The Toyota Sequoia is fucking bullshit. It's not even a plant.

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>breitbart

lmao

Also we should probably sanction men from the rest of the world, since they contribute a disproportionate amount of violent crimes

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 30, 2015, 01:46:56 PM »
Because happiness is a byproduct. You don't want to go through bad things to get an ice cream, but when you're engaged in a project that you care about you don't mind having to go through bad stuff, and along the way you get the blissful moments.

That's my take on it.
Okay, fair

But, like

Risk vs reward, I don't really think you can compare sex to drugs. Just be safe and fuck.
No, when sex is had because you want to have sex with some stranger with the idea that you won't meet this person again (promiscuity), then it is like taking drugs.

When in a relationship, sex is supposed to be done as a thing that will enhance the relationship.
...what?

How is that like taking drugs?

Personally, I'm all for a risk vs reward type of system, thus the reason I'm perfectly fine with taking drugs that aren't, like, crack cocaine or heroin or shit like that, but I can understand where you'd be coming from with that argument.

Sex isn't "supposed" to do anything. The single thing that sex is supposed to do is produce offspring, and everything past that is just something that we have invented as a society. Saying that flings are detrimental and a drain on society just because you don't approve of it is really, really dumb.

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 30, 2015, 01:40:00 PM »
a woman's prior promiscuity is a good indicator of how successful her marriage will ultimately be.
And a man's?

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 30, 2015, 01:37:25 PM »
Sex is naturally dignity free, and humans will do what's most pleasurable to them. Promiscuity isn't a bad thing whatsoever.

We have so many family values crusaders on this forum, it's actually quite hilarious.
How the fuck are me and Class agreeing on something? What the shit?

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 30, 2015, 01:37:03 PM »
Because happiness is a byproduct. You don't want to go through bad things to get an ice cream, but when you're engaged in a project that you care about you don't mind having to go through bad stuff, and along the way you get the blissful moments.

That's my take on it.
Okay, fair

But, like

Risk vs reward, I don't really think you can compare sex to drugs. Just be safe and fuck.

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 30, 2015, 11:47:17 AM »
momentary bliss isn't something you should go after
Please, tell me how you've achieved nirvana - spin me a tale of your perfection of both body and mind and how you have become connected with the universe on a spiritual level, aligning your own trifecta of the soul, self, and spirit.

Or are you just some other college kid like pretty much everyone here?

Because I'mma guess that's the case.

Please, tell me why it's something I shouldn't go after. The way you phrase it, it even sounds like something to avoid. I'd love to hear the reasoning.

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 30, 2015, 10:55:10 AM »
It doesn't bring happiness. It's momentary bliss, but you live a life full of regret. Just like drugs.
Okay, yes. Almost everything is "momentary bliss". Money is momentary bliss, friendship is momentary bliss, ANYTHING that's fun is momentary bliss. I've never understood this argument from either you or Verb - it doesn't make any sense. Just because something isn't permanent doesn't make it less valuable - else we'd all just be Tibetan Buddhist monks.

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It has made people to not find the natural body attractive. People become more and more depraved in their sexuality
That's not how sexuality works at all. Sexuality and what people are attracted to is very much effected by society, the environment that they were brought up in, and latent mental things. It's ALWAYS been that way. It's not like humans have liked the exact same thing across the board for their entire history until porno magazines were invented and then we all changed.

For example, in the past, being plump and excessively pale was often thought of as extremely attractive because it inferred that you didn't have to spend the calories working to lose weight or the time outside to get a tan. Nowadays, since cheap food is often extremely unhealthy and low-paying jobs are low-effort (as far as workout is concerned), fitness and tanning show that you have the time and money to spend on leisure.

Sexual attitudes have always changed across the entire course of history. Don't turn into one of those facebook posts that old ladies plaster across their wall going "When did THIS become more attractive than THIS?!?!"

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My likes and dislikes are entirely irrelevant. This is about depravity and what I call sexual sickness. The lack of dignity and respect for intimacy and sex.
"My likes and dislikes are entirely irrelevant. It's just that I cannot view sex as anything other than an intimate act and view people treating it as something that doesn't have to be hidden and sacred as a negative, thus associating it with depravity."
Yeah, totally irrelevant.

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Serious / Re: Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
« on: December 30, 2015, 09:59:13 AM »
Personally I consider promiscuity to be a bad thing
Please explain why, I'm interested in knowing.

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the easy access to porn desensitized you to what's naturally attractive
Like the others have said, this is a dumb argument and is akin to "violent video games desensitize you to violence so you don't care anymore". There's obviously a heavy amount of dissonance from watching porn and experiencing the real thing. Now, does porn give plenty of people WAY different expectations about sex in general? Yes, and I could see that argument being legitimate on your side, but as it stands, it's kind of...well, a non-argument.

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causing more and more disgusting fetishes to become mainstream.
"I don't like X so it's bad that X is becoming accepted"
Come on, Chally, you're better than that


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The Flood / Re: You don't like Justin Bieber?
« on: December 24, 2015, 02:17:09 PM »
I'm not going to deny he can sing, but I'd have to hear him in person to judge for myself. You can't really tell who has talent these days with all the digital manipulation and shit.
This might be the dumbest argument against modern music I hear on the regular

If someone makes fantastic music but they can't "really" sing then why are they judged as bad? Are keyboard players worst than concert pianists because they alter the sounds of their instruments? Are heavy metal players with electric guitars worse than someone who strums the chords to Wonderwall at a college party?

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