Sounds like a good idea. The conservatives and right-wing views gets censored online while liberals and leftist views are not.

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I still remember Smash Bros Melee's release like it was yesterday and that was 16 years ago, lol.

Still play Halo 1-2 at least once every year with friends. Still such a great games.

I thought Blops 3 was poop but hopefully they learned about it and make it more like the first two.

Cool story bro

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Yeah this has been done to death but Serious needs some activity.

Maybe if people stopped talking about politics all the time I'd post here more.

OT: Yes it is.

Politics is good when it's not whining.

They didn't even ban the modified 3D printer that can etch out an unregistered AR15 receiver from a block of steel.

Ya, gun control wouldn't work because people can print guns at home using 3D printer.

I'd rather get shot than stabbed. Violent crime rate tripled in Britain since they banned guns.

It's a failure of an ideology and should be considered a crime against humanity if any country is practicing it.

Ya, although there's really no reason to ban hammer and sickle or swastika when it has nothing to do with socialism.

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Rights are not something that can be amended. We are entitled by them by our own existence.

you see no danger or folly in allowing men who lived two and a half centuries ago tell you what your basic rights are

They did pretty well if you ask me. They didn't cover everything, but I'm glad what they did cover is law.

i agree, that's why amendment 2 is the only one i have a serious problem with

all in all, the constitution is pretty awesome, but i'm not gonna sit here and pretend it's the word of god or anything, especially when it needed to be fixed up 27 times over the course of 200 years

I don't follow this reasoning either. It's easy to say that the bill of rights just affirms the existence of these fundamental and natural rights (if there even is such a thing, but that's a whole other debate), but I've never seen anything to really substantiate this. The US Constitution and bill of rights are not unique. They were not really the first, they're not the ones that followed the most debate and they're definitely not the most comprehensive or detailed. Many of the rights that we consider basic right now (such as privacy) are not even part of it and have retroactively been retconned to be interpreted as part of another clause. There's dozens of constitutions and treaties on human rights out there and many of them have been more influential or provide protections that the American one does not, yet why is this one somehow correct despite not a single other constitution in the world mentioning the right to firearms "without infringement"? Seems like a very big leap to make.

If we give up on the concept of basic human rights then I think the world will start heading down the shitter a whole lot quicker. Guns aren't going anywhere in the U.S. If they do, we're fucked. If they don't, we'll still be fucked, but It'll take a little while longer. Nations have a lifespan. Once the guns are gone, then the real fuckery begins.

I'm really confused how you got that from my post. I don't think we should give up on the concept of basic human rights. I'm a strong supporter of human rights and most of my job revolves around protecting them. My point is just that gun ownership isn't or shouldn't be one, and that there's a lot of human rights instruments out there that are more comprehensive, influential and in my opinion better than the US Bill of Rights, yet don't include firearm ownership. You keep making a semi slippery slope case that this somehow results in all rights being taken away yet offer no evidence or anything to substantiate it.

Much of what you say also kind of comes across as empty. You ignored my previous post and just present these very general and vague talking points almost. You frame this as some black/white situation where "evil is real" and that everything good will perish to bad guys if we don't take action, yet guns aren't just misused by "evil" people who spent their days thinking about breaking all possible laws and harming people. Guns are misused by your "law abiding gun owner" who accidentally shoots someone. The good family man down the street who gets drunk and shoots his wife in an argument. The "good guy with a gun" who gets into a traffic rage incident at a drive-tru and pulls his gun on someone. These people aren't pure evil, and you're really misrepresenting the situation in a naive way.

I'm also very interested in any evidence backing up that guns are somehow holding society together a bit longer and that we're all fucked without them.

Sorry. I've been getting off-topic. I just think that everything is going to fall apart eventually and governments all eventually turn against their citizenry because greed and power eventually become their main priorities. I think "Evil is real" pretty much sums everything up for me. Where power and man coexist, evil will be there also. I have no faith in man. The world is a dangerous place and I want guns to defend myself and I believe everyone has the right to do the same. My opinion isn't going to be changed by any discussion here. Sorry if I suck at discussing things. I just lose interest once I realize no one's opinions are going to change.

It has happened everytime in history and there's no reason it can't happen again. We are prolonging it by fighting back.

They will take your 2nd amendment away before they take your 1st. That much is guaranteed.

Quote from: Vien on March 01, 2018, 01:28:01 PM

People are wanting laws to rid of firearms without realizing that it'd be impossible to rid of the current ones people own. We already have 5-6 firearms without serial numbers.

So there isn't a record of people who own guns and how many they own?
Why not keep such a list?

When they cancel 2nd amendment, just start taking ppl off that list and the guns they bring. If someone doesn't show up - you get a warrant for house search etc.

That is what Lenin did and made communist revolution possible.