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Serious / Re: Anti-theists are as bad as evangelical Christians
« on: August 26, 2014, 11:50:35 AM »
I didn't even bother reading your copy-pasted Great Wall of China. Why the fuck would I waste my time doing that? Lol.
Because you're an uneducated imbecile?

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Kinder came in and didn't make an extremely hateful comment towards the EU?
>EU

toplel

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Serious / Re: Anti-theists are as bad as evangelical Christians
« on: August 26, 2014, 11:23:27 AM »

You're really pathetic, especially when faced with factual and historical evidence. Bet if it were Challenger saying this you'd be sucking his dick and supporting him

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Serious / Re: Anti-theists are as bad as evangelical Christians
« on: August 26, 2014, 11:22:06 AM »
Hitler wasn't an atheist.

The problem with that line of reasoning, anyway, is that it just avoids the problem. The problem isn't religion, per se, it's a state of worshipfulness. Christopher Hitchens once said that North Korea is the most religious state on the planet. A totalitarian regime is going to incite worship in the same way as a supernatural one.

Hitler was an atheist though

Historians such as Ian Kershaw, Joachim Fest and Alan Bullock agree that Hitler was anti-Christian - a view evidenced by sources such as the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Speer, and the transcripts edited by Martin Bormann contained within Hitler's Table Talk.Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity. Hitler in adulthood became disdainful of Christianity

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Serious / Re: Anti-theists are as bad as evangelical Christians
« on: August 26, 2014, 09:53:05 AM »
Hitler never actually killed Christians unless they were dissidents, so don't give me that shit. He needed the support of German christians. They were the majority. His hatred of jews was of their entire culture and ethnicity, not just their faith.

Stalin, again, was a Marxist, and that's how the fuck Marxism works. Marxism, like Nazism, is a form of state religion. It demands loyalty on the same level as a religion. It is by it's own admission incompatible with religion.

Hitler's own personal beliefs are also subject to debate, as he has made  conflicting comments, and certainly used christian imagery in his propaganda. I'd like to know which "historians" you're citing here.

Sharkey, Word for Word/The Case Against the Nazis; How Hitler's Forces Planned To Destroy German Christianity, New York Times, 13 January 2002

Alan Bullock; Hitler: A Study in Tyranny; HarperPerennial Edition 1991; p 219: "Once the war was over, [Hitler] promised himself, he would root out and destroy the influence of the Christian Churches, but until then he would be circumspect"

Michael Phayer; The Response of the German Catholic Church to National Socialism, published by Yad Vashem: "By the latter part of the decade of the Thirties church officials were well aware that the ultimate aim of Hitler and other Nazis was the total elimination of Catholicism and of the Christian religion. Since the overwhelming majority of Germans were either Catholic or Protestant this goal had to be a long-term rather than a short-term Nazi objective."

Shirer, William L., Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany, p. p 240, Simon and Schuster, 1990: "under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler—backed by Hitler—the Nazi regime intended to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists."

Fischel, Jack R., Historical Dictionary of the Holocaust , p. 123, Scarecrow Press, 2010: “The objective was to either destroy Christianity and restore the German gods of antiquity or to turn Jesus into an Aryan.”

Gill, Anton (1994). An Honourable Defeat; A History of the German Resistance to Hitler. Heinemann Mandarin. 1995 paperback ISBN 978-0-434-29276-9, pp. 14–15: "[the Nazis planned to] de-Christianise Germany after the final victory".

Mosse, George Lachmann, Nazi culture: intellectual, cultural and social life in the Third Reich, p. 240, University of Wisconsin Press, 2003: "Had the Nazis won the war their ecclesiastical policies would have gone beyond those of the German Christians, to the utter destruction of both the Protestant and the Catholic Church.

Dill, Marshall, Germany: a modern history , p. 365, University of Michigan Press, 1970: “It seems no exaggeration to insist that the greatest challenge the Nazis had to face was their effort to eradicate Christianity in Germany or at least to subjugate it to their general world outlook.”

Wheaton, Eliot Barculo The Nazi revolution, 1933–1935: prelude to calamity:with a background survey of the Weimar era, p. 290, 363, Doubleday 1968: The Nazis sought to "to eradicate Christianity in Germany root and branch."

Bendersky, Joseph W., A concise history of Nazi Germany, p. 147, Rowman & Littlefield, 2007: “Consequently, it was Hitler’s long range goal to eliminate the churches once he had consolidated control over his European empire.”

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The Flood / Re: BAN NOEL ALREADY!!!
« on: August 26, 2014, 09:45:04 AM »
Noelle*

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The Flood / Re: Post crush stories
« on: August 26, 2014, 09:39:58 AM »
lets see...
2. lesbian. dammit
Quarantine? >.>

FYI, I don't think she was full-on lesbian. Like, I had a friend whose girlfriend was lesbian before they met. Either he got her to go bi or she was bi but didn't know

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Harlow?.......

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Serious / Re: Anti-theists are as bad as evangelical Christians
« on: August 25, 2014, 11:59:10 PM »
How many fucking times does this shit have to be explained to you? I know I've had to explain it to you twice already.

The actions of Stalin and Hitler are not based on a religious teaching or inspired by their disbelief in god.

They are based on their respective philosophical stances, Marxism and Nazism, which are more along the lines of State-religions than actual religions. Stalin did not try to suppress religion because "hurr god isn't real", he tried to suppress it because Marx claimed it was a threat to the state. Hitler's opposition to religion, again, was based on his belief that it posed a threat to him.

They were atheists and they were evil, yes, but they weren't evil in the name of atheism, they were evil in the name of Marxism and Nazism. The same way the crusaders were evil in the name of Jesus christ, the same way Jihadists are evil in the name of Allah.


One could also argue that the people who served Stalin and Hitler worshiped their states with the same zeal Christians do their god

Do NOT blame atheists for the actions of statists.

dat denial

Read again:

"Science, he declared, would easily destroy the last remaining vestiges of superstition [-] 'In the long run', [Hitler] concluded, 'National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together"

That is literally no different than what Islamic extremists are saying today

"Islam, he declared, would easily destroy the last remaining cestiges of Christianity [-] 'in the long run;, [X] concluded, 'Islam and Christianity would no longer be able to exist together"

That idea by Hitler is the SAME reasoning used to start a few religious wars. But because it's atheism, oh no atheism is some pure concept with the nicest people ever. Yeah, keep feeding that B.S to yourself. Historians and the accounts of Hitler and Stalin point to them attacking religious people out of their hatred and dislike for religion

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The Flood / Re: This is actually how it works in the academic world
« on: August 25, 2014, 11:48:10 PM »
There's a difference between people like MLK and Jay. MLK fought for actual justice due to restrictions like segregation and the constant harassment, as well as criminal actions, against the black community

 Jay on the other hand is fighting something that doesn't exist as the concept of "privileges" is a falsified term which makes a poor and discriminatory assumption about a person based soleyof their color, sexuality, religion, or gender and not their character or personality. A poor white male will ALWAYS have a shittier life than a a rich black male but Jay wants you to think that the white guy is still "privileged"

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The Flood / Re: Post crush stories
« on: August 25, 2014, 11:41:05 PM »
I....I rather not. Just brings back really bad feels from high school

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The Flood / Re: Post Things That Make You Happy
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:54:24 PM »
>:c
So THAT'S what you look like on your period ._.

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The Flood / Re: I, Barack Obama, have accepted the ice bucket challenge
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:53:25 PM »
Ban this guy for impersonation.

A verti-meme assault drone has just been launched to your location :^)

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The Flood / Re: I, Barack Obama, have accepted the ice bucket challenge
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:51:58 PM »
LOL

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The Flood / Re: We need more >implying up in this bitch
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:41:00 PM »
>implying this isn't obama doing the ice bucket challenge


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The Flood / Re: What did you do today, Flood?
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:40:04 PM »
I did not know you two were friends.

-_-

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The Flood / Re: I just stumbled onto a fucking GOLDMINE
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:32:44 PM »
K, sent her Twitter to a friend that hates feminazis and loves to troll the shit out of people. dis gun be gud

*grabs popcorn*

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The Flood / Re: Are you a furry?
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:28:58 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Honest opinion thread (Kitsune edition)
« on: August 25, 2014, 08:44:18 PM »
u fukin wot m8

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Serious / Re: Anti-theists are as bad as evangelical Christians
« on: August 25, 2014, 08:31:27 PM »
I can't for the life of me remrmber a time anti-theists have systematically suppressed women.

Or killed thousands of people for believing in the wrong god.

Or killed people for believing in the wrong version of the same god.

Or made bomb threats against people for making jokes about them.

Or systematically oppressed people of nonstandard sexuality.


No, FUCK religion in any organized form. The whole "muh militant atheist fedora oppressors!" thing is a fucking farce and anyone with half a fucking brain knows this.
You realize bother Hitler and Stalin were atheists, right? They killed more people in a few years than the death toll of the Crusades, which lasted for centuries. In fact, historians agree that Hitler's plan was the eradication of Christianity in Germany. Plus Richard J. Evans wrote that "Hitler emphasised again and again his belief that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on modern science. Science, he declared, would easily destroy the last remaining vestiges of superstition [-] 'In the long run', [Hitler] concluded, 'National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together'"

Oh, and forget that the 10 most deadly wars in human history resulted from politics, not religion. I mean who the fuck decides to kill millions of people due to some prince being assassinated?

You have some real major personal problems for being such an edgy moron. Don't even bother debating me on the historical facts on this. I know my shit better than you ever will


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The Flood / Re: Are you a furry?
« on: August 25, 2014, 08:26:16 PM »
Considering I have a folder full of furry porn......

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dude, you're a giant shit-starter, and I like that. good on ya for pulling shit like that while you still can.
Yeah, I am lol. Finally got tired of being pushed around and was like fuck it, yoloswag420 bitches. Can't winder the kinder

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Well, I've nearly gotten into fights with some black racist fucks plenty of times

One time in English, there were a couple of the chairs that rolled and were padded so people that got into class first had them. Well I had class with not only the school's quarterback but with about 4-6 other football players and their friends, to which the QB always had this one rolling chair. One day I was like "fuck it" and took the chair he sat in. They all come to class and my friend is like" dude, he's going to be pissed". For like 15 minutes though the QB was like "yo mang, were muh chair at?!". Another teacher decides to come in and starts talking to ours when the kid noticed I had his chair and he was like "bro, nah. that be my chair dawg." So I was being a little tough guy and was like "Yeah, I don't see your fucking name on it. What are you going to do?" Right then all his friends were like "damn. you gonna let white boy talk to you like that?" so he gets up from his seat and gets in my face and tell him "You touch me? I'll fucking knock your ass into the wall". Now he's like EXTREMELY pissed when our teacher turns around and tells him to sit back down. At the end of class my teacher high-fived me and called the kid some punk-ass wannabe shit

Now I was in a business class and it was just one of those classes people took to get an easy A. So it was filled with complete retards that acted like well.......retards. They always kept talking shit about whites (they were black) so one day got tired of it and said "Hey, Norfolk zoo just opened up a new monkey exhibit. You all should go apply for a job" and that really got them pissed and were about to punch or stab me or whatever.

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The Flood / Re: Favorite ice cream flavor?
« on: August 25, 2014, 07:27:03 PM »
Cookies and cream
Reese's
Rocky road
Coffee

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The Flood / Re: What did you do today, Flood?
« on: August 25, 2014, 07:23:32 PM »
Woke up
Showered
Dressed
Put on deodorant
Ate hot pocket
Brushed teeth
Drove to 7-11
Got iced coffee
Drove to college
Found really close parking spot
Waited for professor
Listened to professor talk
Class went to different class room
Finished class
Walked over to new student center
Looked at all they had
Found a place to sit
Plugged in laptop
Played some Empire: Total War
Went to second class
Have same professor for second class
Finished class
Went back to student center
Got a mediocre cheese burger and drink
Went back on laptop
Posted AMA thread
Went to third class
Had to share textbook
Played with microscopes
Finished class
Walked to car
Drove home
Talked to mom
Put backpack in room
Fapped
Ate dinner
Went on offsite
Played more Empire: Total War
Searched Amazon for textbooks
Bought textbooks are insanely cheap price
Now posting in this thread

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Serious / Re: Read my fucking immigration paper you fucks
« on: August 25, 2014, 05:00:11 PM »
>not MLA style

My eyes, they hurt. This is what MLA looks like since you're brit


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Kinder, just don't.
What?

Ever hear of Lend-Lease? We sent your country $31.4 billion worth of goods to fight. How about before hand when we sent more than 50 obsolete destroyers, in exchange for 99-year leases to territory in Newfoundland and the Caribbean?

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What is Russia for 500?
Country that nearly got their asses handed to them and fought on the Eastern Front, not the Western Front

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The Flood / Re: Do You Take/Do Any Drugs
« on: August 25, 2014, 03:08:00 PM »
Well I'm prescribed to Zoloft. Well, I think that's it; goes under some generic name

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