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5191
« on: October 02, 2014, 08:48:13 AM »
It's the distinction where people associate Arabs/Middle-Easterners with Islam. Kinda like the term African-American where it's a implication that all people from Africa are black but it's not the case since South Africa is a large white African nation
5192
« on: October 02, 2014, 08:39:26 AM »
Cops are pigs. I hope you did not let him search your trunk or anywhere else in your vehicle. If they demand to search your car then you can politely tell them to frack off and get a warrant.
Spoiler You know, I take a great offense towards this. Not only because I have family and professors that are current/retired police officers, but because I'm going to start the application process in another year to become one. You're basically calling me a pig and I don't really take that all to well. Are there a few bad cops? Yes, but that doesn't mean all cops are bad and there's no need for them all to gain so much angsty hate. Like it or not, but if cops didn't exist then the nation would have the same issues as a third world country
Oh, and warrants are not always needed to search a vehicle.Courts generally give police more leeway to search a vehicle than a home. Under the "automobile exception" to the search warrant requirement, individuals have less of an expectation of privacy when driving a car
- You have given the officer consent
- The officer has probable cause to believe there is evidence of a crime in your vehicle
- The officer reasonably believes a search is necessary for their own protection (a hidden weapon, for example)
- You have been arrested and the search is related to that arrest (such as a search for illegal drugs)
Automobiles may be stopped if an officer possesses a reasonable and articulable suspicion that the motorist has violated a traffic law. If the reason for the stop is a minor traffic offense like speeding, the officer likely isn’t permitted to search your car without more reason. However, if police arrest for conduct arising out of a traffic stop, a search of your vehicle incident to arrest will usually be allowed.
On top of that it's perfectly legally for a cop to call in a K9 unit and conduct an outside sniffing of a vehicle. If a dog makes a hit then cops can search and seize without a warrant
How do I know all of this? Because I'm going to college to be a cop and I have conducted research for class assignments along with gaining information from instructors who are currently on-duty police officers
That is fine if you take offense to it, everything I said is still valid. I did not force you to choose a career path where you are the enemy of the public. It is unfortunate that it is that way, since police officers are supposed to be there to protect citizens in their daily lives, but it has gotten away from that in this country. If you see a cop driving around, you should feel safe, not wondering if the bitch is going to steal money from you or harass you for legally open carrying a weapon.
The fact that you think searching someone's vehicle without a warrant is okay does not make me hopeful that you will set a good example as a cop, sorry to say.
Except what you said isn't valid under certain circumstances, as I described in decent detail. And nothing is moving away from anything. Over 700,000 people are sworn police officers and not even every single one is bad. You're seriously sounding like Kiyo right now by making such a generalized assumption. Steal money? it's illegal to commit traffic violations and the LEGISLATURE establishes penalties for those violations. If you don't want to pay the government $100+ then don't speed or run a stop sign; it's common sense
I do support searching vehicles without a warrant so long as it is done so in a lawful manner. Read what I posted again to understand it
The problem I have with police officers is that their presence doesn't inspire a feeling of safety; rather, I feel suspicious and wary. I have a problem with micro-infractions that are only there to collect money, and I especially have a problem with the type of personality the job tends to attract.
We all understand not all cops are bad, but they're carrying guns and there's not a whole lot you can do if they really want to search you or question you.
Traffic fines are produced by the legislature, not the police and no need to be upset at them about it. I've gotten a ticket before but that was because I was speeding and was dumb for me to do so. Not upset or angry about it and now learned to be more attentive when driving so I don't get another. Cops are literally normal people; they have families, neighbors, and do everything that you do but for just for crap pay. Law enforcement is not about the money, people join because they want to protect their communities. If they wanted money then they'd find a job in private security and join a federal police agency
There's actually a lot you can do when stopped. First off, ask what the purpose of being stopped is. If they don't have either reasonable suspicion or probable cause then you are free to go, don't have to answer questions, or have thing searched. If they're going to be an idiot and not let you leave or whatever without any actual reasoning, then ask them for their name, badge number, and for a supervisor to be on scene; it's required for them to do all of that
I know my rights quite well in terms of what to do involving a police encounter, but the honest cops aren't really what I was getting at. I'm sure you've seen some of the more popular examples of an officer's misuse of power on Youtube, since you're studying to become one.
Police are out to arrest you and collect money for the state, town, county, or whatever. They don't ask you questions for your safety; they do so to collect evidence for a conviction.
Oh, I've plenty of videos where cops are acting like idiot asshats and have had professors, as cops, show them and tear the fuckers to pieces with everything they're doing wrong. But I distinguish that the actions of those few are not representative of every other cop Are all Muslims terrorists because of the actions of extremists? No Are all black criminals because there are some that are? No Are all Germans nazis because a few were? No I can keep going but it's the fact that the actions of a few are not an indication of the whole. But also remember that cops are humans; they experience frustration, annoyance, and other emotions. No matter how hard they are trained, there will be a few snapping points where everything built up just comes out for a few seconds. Police are out to arrest and ticket because for one, that's there job and they are part of the executive branch of government and enforce laws set by the legislature. Second is to protect the people and the community; if there were no cops then people would be speeding, running lights, drinking and driving, commit robberies, kidnappings, murder, and rape. Police are established to prevent people from doing that and act as a deterrent. Why don't you run red lights? Because you know you will be stopped and given a ticket. And if you run a red light and kill a person, you just committed involuntary manslaughter. But by police being present, you don't run the light and you don't kill a car full of people
5193
« on: October 02, 2014, 08:26:28 AM »
I had a girlfriend for two years...
And well, yeah..
Was she that bad to make you turn gay? Spoiler give me her number
5194
« on: October 02, 2014, 01:00:13 AM »
How can we get dehydrated if 80% of our bodies are made of water?!
5195
« on: October 02, 2014, 12:51:06 AM »
By your logic, a person studying science isn't more informed than a in-bred bible thumper
That is an idiotic comparison and has literally nothing to do with the current conversation.
You said I wasn't more informed, despite going to college. That's literally the same with anybody else going to college
5196
« on: October 02, 2014, 12:46:52 AM »
Cops are pigs. I hope you did not let him search your trunk or anywhere else in your vehicle. If they demand to search your car then you can politely tell them to frack off and get a warrant.
Spoiler You know, I take a great offense towards this. Not only because I have family and professors that are current/retired police officers, but because I'm going to start the application process in another year to become one. You're basically calling me a pig and I don't really take that all to well. Are there a few bad cops? Yes, but that doesn't mean all cops are bad and there's no need for them all to gain so much angsty hate. Like it or not, but if cops didn't exist then the nation would have the same issues as a third world country
Oh, and warrants are not always needed to search a vehicle.Courts generally give police more leeway to search a vehicle than a home. Under the "automobile exception" to the search warrant requirement, individuals have less of an expectation of privacy when driving a car
- You have given the officer consent
- The officer has probable cause to believe there is evidence of a crime in your vehicle
- The officer reasonably believes a search is necessary for their own protection (a hidden weapon, for example)
- You have been arrested and the search is related to that arrest (such as a search for illegal drugs)
Automobiles may be stopped if an officer possesses a reasonable and articulable suspicion that the motorist has violated a traffic law. If the reason for the stop is a minor traffic offense like speeding, the officer likely isn’t permitted to search your car without more reason. However, if police arrest for conduct arising out of a traffic stop, a search of your vehicle incident to arrest will usually be allowed.
On top of that it's perfectly legally for a cop to call in a K9 unit and conduct an outside sniffing of a vehicle. If a dog makes a hit then cops can search and seize without a warrant
How do I know all of this? Because I'm going to college to be a cop and I have conducted research for class assignments along with gaining information from instructors who are currently on-duty police officers
That is fine if you take offense to it, everything I said is still valid. I did not force you to choose a career path where you are the enemy of the public. It is unfortunate that it is that way, since police officers are supposed to be there to protect citizens in their daily lives, but it has gotten away from that in this country. If you see a cop driving around, you should feel safe, not wondering if the bitch is going to steal money from you or harass you for legally open carrying a weapon.
The fact that you think searching someone's vehicle without a warrant is okay does not make me hopeful that you will set a good example as a cop, sorry to say.
Except what you said isn't valid under certain circumstances, as I described in decent detail. And nothing is moving away from anything. Over 700,000 people are sworn police officers and not even every single one is bad. You're seriously sounding like Kiyo right now by making such a generalized assumption. Steal money? it's illegal to commit traffic violations and the LEGISLATURE establishes penalties for those violations. If you don't want to pay the government $100+ then don't speed or run a stop sign; it's common sense
I do support searching vehicles without a warrant so long as it is done so in a lawful manner. Read what I posted again to understand it
The problem I have with police officers is that their presence doesn't inspire a feeling of safety; rather, I feel suspicious and wary. I have a problem with micro-infractions that are only there to collect money, and I especially have a problem with the type of personality the job tends to attract.
We all understand not all cops are bad, but they're carrying guns and there's not a whole lot you can do if they really want to search you or question you.
Traffic fines are produced by the legislature, not the police and no need to be upset at them about it. I've gotten a ticket before but that was because I was speeding and was dumb for me to do so. Not upset or angry about it and now learned to be more attentive when driving so I don't get another. Cops are literally normal people; they have families, neighbors, and do everything that you do but for just for crap pay. Law enforcement is not about the money, people join because they want to protect their communities. If they wanted money then they'd find a job in private security and join a federal police agency There's actually a lot you can do when stopped. First off, ask what the purpose of being stopped is. If they don't have either reasonable suspicion or probable cause then you are free to go, don't have to answer questions, or have thing searched. If they're going to be an idiot and not let you leave or whatever without any actual reasoning, then ask them for their name, badge number, and for a supervisor to be on scene; it's required for them to do all of that
5197
« on: October 02, 2014, 12:27:03 AM »
Except what you said isn't valid under certain circumstances, as I described in decent detail. And nothing is moving away from anything. Over 700,000 people are sworn police officers and not even every single one is bad. You're seriously sounding like Kiyo right now by making such a generalized assumption. Steal money? it's illegal to commit traffic violations and the LEGISLATURE establishes penalties for those violations. If you don't want to pay the government $100+ then don't speed or run a stop sign; it's common sense
I do support searching vehicles without a warrant so long as it is done so in a lawful manner. Read what I posted again to understand it
I do not need to read anything again, I understand it perfectly well. You are not more informed than everyone else just because you are studying in college.
Then if you understand it, you would note there are exceptions to when a warrant is needed. Cars do not gain the same amount of expectation of privacy when compared to a house; laws when concerning vehicles are different because of that Oh, I am more informed. Not only because I'm attending college but because I'm attending college to study this exact material. By your logic, a person studying science isn't more informed than a in-bred bible thumper
5198
« on: October 02, 2014, 12:20:22 AM »
Cops are pigs. I hope you did not let him search your trunk or anywhere else in your vehicle. If they demand to search your car then you can politely tell them to frack off and get a warrant.
Spoiler You know, I take a great offense towards this. Not only because I have family and professors that are current/retired police officers, but because I'm going to start the application process in another year to become one. You're basically calling me a pig and I don't really take that all to well. Are there a few bad cops? Yes, but that doesn't mean all cops are bad and there's no need for them all to gain so much angsty hate. Like it or not, but if cops didn't exist then the nation would have the same issues as a third world country
Oh, and warrants are not always needed to search a vehicle.Courts generally give police more leeway to search a vehicle than a home. Under the "automobile exception" to the search warrant requirement, individuals have less of an expectation of privacy when driving a car
- You have given the officer consent
- The officer has probable cause to believe there is evidence of a crime in your vehicle
- The officer reasonably believes a search is necessary for their own protection (a hidden weapon, for example)
- You have been arrested and the search is related to that arrest (such as a search for illegal drugs)
Automobiles may be stopped if an officer possesses a reasonable and articulable suspicion that the motorist has violated a traffic law. If the reason for the stop is a minor traffic offense like speeding, the officer likely isn’t permitted to search your car without more reason. However, if police arrest for conduct arising out of a traffic stop, a search of your vehicle incident to arrest will usually be allowed.
On top of that it's perfectly legally for a cop to call in a K9 unit and conduct an outside sniffing of a vehicle. If a dog makes a hit then cops can search and seize without a warrant
How do I know all of this? Because I'm going to college to be a cop and I have conducted research for class assignments along with gaining information from instructors who are currently on-duty police officers
That is fine if you take offense to it, everything I said is still valid. I did not force you to choose a career path where you are the enemy of the public. It is unfortunate that it is that way, since police officers are supposed to be there to protect citizens in their daily lives, but it has gotten away from that in this country. If you see a cop driving around, you should feel safe, not wondering if the bitch is going to steal money from you or harass you for legally open carrying a weapon.
The fact that you think searching someone's vehicle without a warrant is okay does not make me hopeful that you will set a good example as a cop, sorry to say.
Except what you said isn't valid under certain circumstances, as I described in decent detail. And nothing is moving away from anything. Over 700,000 people are sworn police officers and not even every single one is bad. You're seriously sounding like Kiyo right now by making such a generalized assumption. Steal money? it's illegal to commit traffic violations and the LEGISLATURE establishes penalties for those violations. If you don't want to pay the government $100+ then don't speed or run a stop sign; it's common sense I do support searching vehicles without a warrant so long as it is done so in a lawful manner. Read what I posted again to understand it
5199
« on: October 02, 2014, 12:10:19 AM »
'murica
He was probably just trying to reach his quota.
Quotas are illegal. That's a public misconception
The cops in my town have quotas because the state is in massive debt. Cops literally just wait around to pull over just about anyone because they're desperate to write people tickets. Also ticket fees here have doubled in cost in the past few years.
What state do you live in?
5200
« on: October 02, 2014, 12:08:14 AM »
'murica
He was probably just trying to reach his quota.
Quotas are illegal. That's a public misconception
Doesn't mean they don't still happen. There are a lot more police vehicles sitting and waiting on the side of the road toward the end of the month than there are at the beginning of it where I live.
They don't happen though. Quotas are a fixed and expected number to be met. Most of the time they're doing something called self-initiated activities, meaning they just need to show they are working and not lacking in their job. That does mean more cops out, but they're not writing tickets to me a fixed number. It's just they pull somebody over, tell them they have a faulty headlight, and all is all. And there's nothing wrong with that because who honestly checks to see if their head or break lights are working? There's also the possibility they're just trying to fill the hours they need to get a paycheck
5201
« on: October 01, 2014, 11:56:36 PM »
Cops are pigs. I hope you did not let him search your trunk or anywhere else in your vehicle. If they demand to search your car then you can politely tell them to frack off and get a warrant.
You know, I take a great offense towards this. Not only because I have family and professors that are current/retired police officers, but because I'm going to start the application process in another year to become one. You're basically calling me a pig and I don't really take that all to well. Are there a few bad cops? Yes, but that doesn't mean all cops are bad and there's no need for them all to gain so much angsty hate. Like it or not, but if cops didn't exist then the nation would have the same issues as a third world country Oh, and warrants are not always needed to search a vehicle.Courts generally give police more leeway to search a vehicle than a home. Under the "automobile exception" to the search warrant requirement, individuals have less of an expectation of privacy when driving a car - You have given the officer consent - The officer has probable cause to believe there is evidence of a crime in your vehicle - The officer reasonably believes a search is necessary for their own protection (a hidden weapon, for example) - You have been arrested and the search is related to that arrest (such as a search for illegal drugs) Automobiles may be stopped if an officer possesses a reasonable and articulable suspicion that the motorist has violated a traffic law. If the reason for the stop is a minor traffic offense like speeding, the officer likely isn’t permitted to search your car without more reason. However, if police arrest for conduct arising out of a traffic stop, a search of your vehicle incident to arrest will usually be allowed. On top of that it's perfectly legally for a cop to call in a K9 unit and conduct an outside sniffing of a vehicle. If a dog makes a hit then cops can search and seize without a warrant How do I know all of this? Because I'm going to college to be a cop and I have conducted research for class assignments along with gaining information from instructors who are currently on-duty police officers
5202
« on: October 01, 2014, 11:47:21 PM »
'murica
He was probably just trying to reach his quota.
Quotas are illegal. That's a public misconception
5203
« on: October 01, 2014, 11:10:37 PM »
That's what I just do whenever I feel like joining that snooze fest
5204
« on: October 01, 2014, 10:21:26 PM »
Wow dude. Good way of ruining a man's crop and not letting me have corn for dinner now. You should have taken the hit like a real man and not wimped out like a pussy french soldier
5205
« on: October 01, 2014, 10:18:52 PM »
אתה לא יכול לתפוס אותי חלאת jidf. השקלים שלי מוסתרים מאחורי 69 באי כוח ולגיון של חתולי דוב
איש נאצי חמושים במקלע כבד עם קטעים בלתי מוגבלים בצדו האפל של הירח שיכול ליצור קשר עם
קבוצה של חייזרים עיוורים שיתרסק כדור הארץ בחצר האחורית של האמהות שלך
5206
« on: October 01, 2014, 10:05:13 PM »
Yes. Sexual assault of a child and abuse of power is something to support.
>assault >was consensual Only problem was them being teachers
5207
« on: October 01, 2014, 10:02:44 PM »
Not to make it sound like I'm being a dick, but what do you got to loose? It sounds like nothing to me. Just do what you want to do and if that means leaving your town and moving to somewhere else, then just do it. You have one shot at life so take risks and enjoy the rewards from it
It's not so much of what I've got to lose, it's mainly what can I gain? My outlook on reality is a really negative one, and I still mange to cover up my own problems by helping friends I know online or IRL with there's. Usually telling them that there has to be a light to the end of that tunnel.
Well, I don't know if there is a light to the end of my tunnel or a brick wall honestly.
Well what do you have to gain with the way you're living now? That's just my input on life
5208
« on: October 01, 2014, 09:54:15 PM »
Well, I went to a semi-ghetto school. Typical occurrence was fights that resulted into people being nailed into the wall, tables being broken, folding chairs used as weapons, and weaves being pulled. The craziest thing out of all had to be when some dude pulled out one of those giant ziploc bags full of weed; I'm talking maybe 2 pounds at the least and the teacher didn't fucking notice it, or smell it. I was going to say something at the end of class because I'm a dick like that but realized that I was like the only white kid in class and on top of that, everybody in that class were friends so it would be obvious it was me. Didn't want to end up dead or mugged, so yeah >.>
5209
« on: October 01, 2014, 09:41:55 PM »
Not to make it sound like I'm being a dick, but what do you got to loose? It sounds like nothing to me. Just do what you want to do and if that means leaving your town and moving to somewhere else, then just do it. You have one shot at life so take risks and enjoy the rewards from it
5210
« on: October 01, 2014, 09:36:27 PM »
Child molestation can easily be argued as worse than adult murder.
Nope. A traumatized life is far better than no life at all. You can get over trauma. You can't get over not existing.
You can't get over trauma. Tell that to soldiers, sailors, pilots, and marines that get PTSD. Combat and rape are both experiences that will psychologically damage a person all their lives
You can get over trauma, actually. It's usually hard, sure, but it's definitely possible. If you're killed, you have no chance of getting over it.
And death is a far better option than having to live a struggling life. It's like how somebody being beat till they are basically a vegetable is far worse than murder
5211
« on: October 01, 2014, 09:35:10 PM »
Then what ad service does site likes reddit and 4chan use? (._.)
5212
« on: October 01, 2014, 08:01:52 PM »
Child molestation can easily be argued as worse than adult murder.
Nope. A traumatized life is far better than no life at all. You can get over trauma. You can't get over not existing.
You can't get over trauma. Tell that to soldiers, sailors, pilots, and marines that get PTSD. Combat and rape are both experiences that will psychologically damage a person all their lives
5213
« on: October 01, 2014, 04:51:06 PM »
Wait, it's out now?
ohshit, brb
5214
« on: October 01, 2014, 04:49:18 PM »
Just ruin her life. Tell her family, friends, and co-workers that she has been sleeping with another man and ignoring her motherly duties. Well, that's what I would do anyway
5215
« on: October 01, 2014, 04:41:43 PM »
>mfw osskus sister
>mfw you and ossku will be family
>mfw you will be family with casper
5216
« on: October 01, 2014, 04:39:48 PM »
What a scumbag, the pedophile that is. I don't care that he died but I know he won't be hurting another innocent child ever again. And yes S.C, harming a child is FAR worse than harming an adult when a child's mind has not fully developed and will have have to spend the rest of their lives with a traumatic experience that will leave them unable to function normally. The guy has proved not once, but countless times that he is a danger to society and it's a benefit that he's gone
And it's nothing new that prisoners have a extreme hatred for pedophiles and child rapists. They are the lowest a person can go
5218
« on: October 01, 2014, 03:20:26 PM »
Don't see the issue of him being arrested, well I see it with life in prison
5219
« on: October 01, 2014, 02:44:56 PM »
I thought that was Sentra?
5220
« on: October 01, 2014, 09:40:36 AM »
Some of those sound rather interesting and comparable to classes I've taken.
Yeah, they're really enjoyably and love them. There's other ADJ courses that don't fall under my degree, such as firearms and marksmanship. My college has this one classroom that simulates a range and is equipped with actual Glocks that are just sophisticated and expensive laser guns But there's people in this program that are going to be lawyers and such so it's not just for people going into law enforcement. It's also transferable to 4-year universities
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