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She is drop dead gorgeous. I wish I was a female just so I could date and scissor her

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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
......
White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.
Yes, but most weren't captured in North Africa. They were primarily grabbed from coastal towns and villages of European nations. Although a good amount of sailors traveling near North Africa were converted to slaves.

A lot of slaves were taken by the Moors from Spain in raids which were part of the Barbary Slavs trade too.
I know they weren't captured in Africa. They were taken from shipping routes, coastal areas, and even went up north to Iceland and Scotland
That's why I was confused as to what you were talking about when you said "along North Africa".
Ah. My fault for that

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The Flood / Re: That's a gun store I'm not going back to
« on: October 21, 2014, 06:29:01 PM »
In case any of you guys are missing the humor here, the guy at the gun store was talking out of his ass and didn't know things he should have.

It's not funny, really. There are lots of shitty gun stores. Not everyone spends 12 hours browsing /k/ every day.
I hardly browse gun forums myself, but at least know that WASRs are Romanian, PAPs are Yugoslavian, VZ58s are Czech, Kalashnikov are Russian, etc. It's not difficult to know the differences

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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
......
White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.
Yes, but most weren't captured in North Africa. They were primarily grabbed from coastal towns and villages of European nations. Although a good amount of sailors traveling near North Africa were converted to slaves.

A lot of slaves were taken by the Moors from Spain in raids which were part of the Barbary Slavs trade too.
I know they weren't captured in Africa. They were taken from shipping routes, coastal areas, and even went up north to Iceland and Scotland

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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
......
White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.

About 1 million Europeans were captured from that iirc and even then its not like Europeans were specifically targeted. Those frackers were grabbing slaves from wherever they could find them.

People usually like to point to the Moors when they talk about African on European slavery since they were much more significant.
Actually the last I read about it, at least 1.2 million European were enslaved. On top of that, I believed they specifically targeted Europeans because I'm not familiar with any accounts of them attacking and capturing ships from the Ottomans or any other non-European coastal area. On top of that, Barbary slaves have gone as far north as Iceland  to capture people

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: October 21, 2014, 06:15:05 PM »
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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
......
White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.

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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
......
White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa

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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?

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The Flood / Re: So a few of you want me back here
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:46:37 PM »
Bout time

Freedom Fighters deserved a sequel

it was so fun splitscreen
Best mutliplayer ever. My cousin and I would stay up all night battling it out. Being able to control and order troops was amazing

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The Flood / Re: So a few of you want me back here
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:45:42 PM »
Bout time

Freedom Fighters deserved a sequel
Fucking Kane and Lynch took that from us

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The Flood / Re: So a few of you want me back here
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:14:33 PM »
Bout time

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The Flood / Re: What type of Girls/Guys do you like?
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:09:05 PM »

If it's a guy, then basically me. Tall, thin, body hairless, cute..... white. Y'know, emo/scene/skater.
But I'm really not sure sure for a girl.
So not shorter?.......
I mean, it depends from person to person.
Like, I'm totally not 5'5 or anything.....heh.....
do you still wear diapers too?
No I don't Foxy

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The Flood / Re: What type of Girls/Guys do you like?
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:08:46 PM »
If it's a guy, then basically me. Tall, thin, body hairless, cute..... white. Y'know, emo/scene/skater.
But I'm really not sure sure for a girl.
So not shorter?.......
I mean, it depends from person to person.
Like, I'm totally not 5'5 or anything.....heh.....
Mkay, I don't wanna be a foot taller than the person I'm sleeping with,
:'(

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The Flood / Re: What type of Girls/Guys do you like?
« on: October 21, 2014, 04:37:58 PM »
If it's a guy, then basically me. Tall, thin, body hairless, cute..... white. Y'know, emo/scene/skater.
But I'm really not sure sure for a girl.
So not shorter?.......
I mean, it depends from person to person.
Like, I'm totally not 5'5 or anything.....heh.....

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The Flood / Re: What type of Girls/Guys do you like?
« on: October 21, 2014, 04:34:06 PM »
If it's a guy, then basically me. Tall, thin, body hairless, cute..... white. Y'know, emo/scene/skater.
But I'm really not sure sure for a girl.
So not shorter?.......

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The Flood / Re: Beef Donair
« on: October 21, 2014, 04:03:59 PM »
I think my dad got to make some at a food shop in Turkey when his ship was stationed there

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The Flood / Re: Which users would you make love to?
« on: October 21, 2014, 04:01:50 PM »
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Idk. Probably others of you
We can have a threesome

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The Flood / Re: That's a gun store I'm not going back to
« on: October 21, 2014, 03:59:17 PM »
Isn't it a waste of money to buy guns?

I just don't really understand....
Not even little loli


Fine. I hope you blow your foot off, moron.
baka

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Me and Das

He can crossdress to distract and I go in with the killshot.....

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The Flood / Re: Podcast Related Question
« on: October 21, 2014, 03:53:45 PM »
foxes

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The Flood / Re: How are you enjoying your Trusday?
« on: October 21, 2014, 03:49:38 PM »
Tomorrow is Wainesday

amidoinitrite?

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Serious / Re: Your Thoughts on Suicide
« on: October 21, 2014, 03:47:13 PM »

If you are going to pull out some random online criterion you could at least do the full version, this is the NHS's general diagnostics criteria.

Link: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Depression/Pages/Symptoms.aspx

Note the bits you omitted, such as duration of symptoms, severity of symptoms.

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The symptoms of depression can be complex and vary widely between people. But as a general rule, if you are depressed, you feel sad, hopeless and lose interest in things you used to enjoy.

The symptoms persist for weeks or months and are bad enough to interfere with your work, social life and family life.

There are many other symptoms of depression and you're unlikely to have every one listed below.

If you experience some of these symptoms for most of the day, every day for more than two weeks, you should seek help from your GP.
Psychological symptoms include:

    continuous low mood or sadness
    feeling hopeless and helpless
    having low self-esteem
    feeling tearful
    feeling guilt-ridden
    feeling irritable and intolerant of others
    having no motivation or interest in things
    finding it difficult to make decisions
    not getting any enjoyment out of life
    feeling anxious or worried
    having suicidal thoughts or thoughts of harming yourself

Physical symptoms include:

    moving or speaking more slowly than usual
    change in appetite or weight (usually decreased, but sometimes increased)
    constipation
    unexplained aches and pains
    lack of energy or lack of interest in sex (loss of libido)
    changes to your menstrual cycle
    disturbed sleep (for example, finding it hard to fall asleep at night or waking up very early in the morning)

Social symptoms include:

    not doing well at work
    taking part in fewer social activities and avoiding contact with friends
    neglecting your hobbies and interests
    having difficulties in your home and family life

Depression can come on gradually, so it can be difficult to notice something is wrong. Many people continue to try to cope with their symptoms without realising they are ill. It can take a friend or family member to suggest something is wrong.

Doctors describe depression by how serious it is:

    mild depression has some impact on your daily life
    moderate depression has a significant impact on your daily life
    severe depression makes it almost impossible to get through daily life – a few people with severe depression may have psychotic symptoms

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I know what clinical depression is. I've suffered from depression multiple times in the past and I'm not getting it confused with "the blues"
As you have said, and I don't doubt it. But the point is that you keep on stating things that are possibly helpful for mild depression (which has minor impact on your daily life, very little impact on the FFA checklist and typically goes away after a period of time with no major medical treatment needed) as if they were things that would apply to someone with severe clinical depression.

And yet again, your original statement ITT was that people who commit suicide are choosing the coward's way out. If you say that you know about clinical depression then how in the hell do you still maintain that? Or don't you? Or more likely, do you not know a lot about clinical depression beyond what some quick google can tell you.

As it's also been pointed out ITT, ignorance isn't something to be ashamed of or defensive over. It's something to accept and either leave at that or work on improving. I know jack shit about economics and philosophy, I don't pretend to understand either. I do however know a fair bit about Psychology in general and Mental Illness in particular having spent the last three years studying it and living through it.
Oh, I've experienced severe clinical depression many times where I went up to a week feeling everything you quoted from that link (aside things like menstrual cycle) but the thing you say I've stated that may be helpful to mild depression, helped me to overcome severe depression. I could have killed myself and ended the pain, but I wanted to live and show the world that I'm strong; my will to live alone helped me

My original statement was directed at the main question: Is suicide cowardly. I took that as the act itself, not the person and if they've been going through a mental illness. No, I don't know a lot about clinical depression

I did state on the previous page that I'm not an expert on psychology or what people go through so I know that I'm not knowledgeable in this area as I am in history, geography, guns, and other things

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Serious / Re: At long last, scientists have created the hoverboard
« on: October 21, 2014, 03:34:05 PM »
Funny thing is, I've always had this idea that magnets could be used to create hover technology (._.)

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The Flood / Re: The day may come!
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:35:12 PM »
>mfw I wrote a 3 page essay the day before it was due and my teacher said it was really great

feelsgood.jpg

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Serious / Re: Your Thoughts on Suicide
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:33:47 PM »
It's something we all experience as people at one time or another; same with depression. If you've never had a time of feeling down in the dumps then I will call B.S

Yes, but there is a difference between self diagnosed depression, and medically diagnosed.
I know. But a person not going through clinical depression can face "plain" depression and kill themselves, despite not being mentally ill

*sigh*

No, that would be clinical depression.

Tell me, do you know the criteria for the diagnosis of it? As compared to something like SAD?
Clinical:
Depressed mood or irritable
Decreased interest or pleasure
Weight change or change in appetite
Change in sleep
Fatigue or loss of energy
Lack of concentration
Thoughts of death or suicide

I know what clinical depression is. I've suffered from depression multiple times in the past and I'm not getting it confused with "the blues"

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The Flood / Re: That's a gun store I'm not going back to
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:22:02 PM »
He's just trying to save you from buying slavshit.
>implying slavshit is badshit

betch pls. My glorious soviet nugget out-shot a decked out AR-15 this past weekend at the range
>A long-barreled 7.62x54r outshot what is probably a carbine-length rifle in .223

NAWWWWW
I was firing an M44 carbine nugget......

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Serious / Re: Your Thoughts on Suicide
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:20:11 PM »
Cut the shit, right now.

Kinder: Meta did not launch a personal attack, he took issue with your ignorance of suicide.

I will say this once, anyone who continues this shit is getting a 20% warning. Anyone.
Cut the crap out, discuss it nicely and try not to act like little bitches when you argue.

And Kinder, as a separate point, Suicidal Ideation and the act of suicide has nothing to do with Cowardice. Are hallucinations from Schizophrenia cowardice? Are nervous ticks cowardice? Is PTSD Cowardice?
No they fracking well aren't and so kindly send that view back to the 1900s where it belongs.
Whatever. It was a personal attack and if I did what Meta pulled, I'd be banned right now

The discussion isn't about ideation. It's about the act itself. Committing suicide is in my own opinion a selfish and cowardly act

No, you wouldn't. You would have been if you called him an idiot, simply saying someone is demonstrating their ignorance doesn't constitute a personal attack. Or would you prefer this site does become a hugbox?

And your opinion is wrong as it's based on the assumption that people who commit suicide do so out of cowardice rather than a warped mental state, unless you want to say that a warped mental state is the result of cowardice which is even more grossly incorrect.
How can an opinion be wrong? That doesn't make sense. I don't care if somebody supported the idea of killing all humans to protect the earth, I would never say their opinion is wrong

I'm not discussing the person or the psychological issues, just the act of suicide itself. There are solutions out to help people struggling. People facing it don't do it outright because they are hanging on a thread of deep-down positive and happy thoughts, those are what need to be focused on to make that thread into a rope

If an opinion is based on incorrect information then it can be wrong.
It's not like we are discussing preferences for films, where 'I like X' cannot be wrong, but your 'opinion' regarding suicide and mental illness is flat out incorrect. (Strawman goes here)

Max has already addressed this point.

And no shit there are solutions, but this bit
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People facing it don't do it outright because they are hanging on a thread of deep-down positive and happy thoughts
You can't just fix depression with smiles and sunshine, it's a complex illness with a number of contributing factors and causes. Generalising like that is incredibly dangerous and the worst disgrace of a Psychologist that I've ever had the misfortune of meeting holds to that mindset, It can all be fixed with a smile on your face and a thumb up your ass. Speaking only from the people I directly know, he hasn't helped any of the five of them who have been his patients. Because his idiotic closed mind refuses to look at the bigger picture regarding the cause of their problems.

Yes that's a bit of a side track but it pisses me off when people who don't understand mental illnesses make damaging statements like that one.

Sure some people can be helped by a bit of cheering up, but chances are they aren't clinically depressed. I've never heard of a case where someone has committed suicide from a case of the blues, plenty of people who make a 'rational choice' and countless more who commit suicide because of severe Depression, and I'm willing to bet that most of the people who jump that didn't appear to do so under the rational choice banding were Depressed, even those who aren't recorded as such because they were undiagnosed and untreated.
Wasn't trying say you can fix it with sunshine with smiles. I was saying that people who contemplate it sometimes hold it off because there's something keeping them anchored to life, which is good because that can be taken and built on. Even the slightest glimmer of hope can make the difference between a person living or dying

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Serious / Re: Your Thoughts on Suicide
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:16:23 PM »
It's something we all experience as people at one time or another; same with depression. If you've never had a time of feeling down in the dumps then I will call B.S

Yes, but there is a difference between self diagnosed depression, and medically diagnosed.
I know. But a person not going through clinical depression can face "plain" depression and kill themselves, despite not being mentally ill

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