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« on: January 29, 2015, 09:41:25 AM »
Climate change has been happening before humans even industrialized. Ever hear of the Medieval Warm Age and Little Ice Age?
At a much slower and more stable rate, retard.
Stop sucking in the Koch brothers propaganda and do some fucking research somewhere that isn't Breitbart or Fox.
>thinking i read faux news >thinking i read breitbart The only retard here is yourself
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« on: January 29, 2015, 09:35:23 AM »
Let me ask - what is so bad about Clinton? She has some fairly shit opinions. I don't have the sheet on me at the moment that I made comparing Clinton, Rubio and Gary Johnson but Clinton was by far and away the worst there.
I don't want to be rude because I like you, but you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The republicans want to do nothing but run America into the ground and have done so almost every time they've been elected.
Good to know indoctrination is a real thing
Democrats are running this country into the ground. It's a fucking blessing they lost control of the Senate
The irony.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10
For one, the Federal Reserve ruined the economy in the 70s and 80s http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htmInflation was increasing since 1965, which led to economic situations later on But here's a study, not some "insider", saying the Democrats ruined the economy http://www.examiner.com/article/new-study-confirms-economy-was-destroyed-by-democrat-policiesIf you want some added fun, only a mere 250K something jobs added since 2009 up til now was a collective 49 states+D.C; The conservative stronghold of Texas added the majority of over 1 million jobs since 2009
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« on: January 29, 2015, 08:09:41 AM »
Moore and Rogen are dumbfucks. I'm regretting watching The Interview now
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« on: January 29, 2015, 08:08:22 AM »
Climate change has been happening before humans even industrialized. Ever hear of the Medieval Warm Age and Little Ice Age?
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« on: January 29, 2015, 08:05:52 AM »
Let me ask - what is so bad about Clinton? She has some fairly shit opinions. I don't have the sheet on me at the moment that I made comparing Clinton, Rubio and Gary Johnson but Clinton was by far and away the worst there.
I don't want to be rude because I like you, but you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The republicans want to do nothing but run America into the ground and have done so almost every time they've been elected.
Good to know indoctrination is a real thing Democrats are running this country into the ground. It's a fucking blessing they lost control of the Senate
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« on: January 29, 2015, 08:03:44 AM »
Government should get out of marriage period
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« on: January 29, 2015, 07:59:17 AM »
To be fair, Obama does seem to identify more with black culture. Whether that is genuine or in order to cement his almost complete support among black voters, I can't say, though.
He's a politician; it isn't genuine.
he's one of the most honest politicians
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2009/04/02/obamas-cigarette-tax-puts-the-lie-to-his-no-new-taxes-pledge
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2015/01/19/obamas-new-state-of-the-union-tax-hike-on-middle-class-529-college-savers/
How many times do you need me to school you? You're grasping at straws because he isn't raising taxes, he's taxing cigarettes. And his new plan WILL NOT affect those in the middle class. It's closing tax loopholes used by the rich. The 529 is used by 3% of families, the majority of which are WEALTHY.
Educate yourself, then come back to the forum.
You haven't schooled me once, but keep up the narcissism. And if you had the minimum educational experience, you would know the middle-class has tobacco users and raising taxes on tobacco effects middle-class members. Except you're wrong as the middle-class are the majority ones and anybody who takes out money will be taxed. It's sad that you continue to support Obama despite all the facts pointing out he's a half-wit You educate yourself because you can't comprehend facts
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« on: January 28, 2015, 10:07:38 PM »
Organize a drop off location for both hostages, bomb the isis convoy shortly after exchanging hostages = profit?
Considering the exchange is to happen at the Turkish border, a country that's too big of a pussy to do so, I doubt this would happen.
>implying a certain western country that was a colony would give a shit
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« on: January 28, 2015, 10:05:51 PM »
Oh fuck no. I'll go on record and say I'd rather have Obama run for a 3rd time then let that bitch ever set foot on the campaign
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« on: January 28, 2015, 10:03:36 PM »
I'll say Johnson out of the three
But on an unrelated note, I'll more likely vote for a Bush and Rubio ticket if anything
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« on: January 27, 2015, 06:33:16 PM »
then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor,
You do. I have my own plan with my own doctor.
*Aside from the fact thousands have lost their doctors and/or plans and certain plans are ineligible
-snip-
Wrong.....Seeing as how insurance is now required, people can't go without it. Continue to support a policy that destroys the foundations of free will and Capitalism
Continue to buy into Republican fear mongering and propaganda.
Continue to think I'm a Republican
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« on: January 27, 2015, 06:32:36 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs >yfw obama wants to protect middle class >yfw obama makes free college >yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college" >yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money >yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive
>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/ http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15 http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax. And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED
I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.
"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem?
Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.
And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.
Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.
It is a tax
tax taks/Submit noun 1. a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.
You have to buy insurance or face consequences; it's compulsory
So you're aware in his address that he mentions protecting the middle class?
It does correlate. In order to pay for "free" college (nothing is ever free), he's going to tax a program used predominately by middle class families and tax it........when he said he was going to protect the middle class. If you don't see ANYTHING wrong about that then I don't know what else to say
My last link compares the cost of a 2-year degree to a 4-year degree, where a semester at a 4-year degree is more expensive than a 2-year degree. More people with a 2-year degree means having to get a 4-year or higher degree which costs more money, a fact that makes the entire plan redundant
This is embarrassing? Showing how this plan is a big joke is embarrassing? Why am I not surprised by your words?
It's insurance. Not a tax.
3% of families (they're mostly high income families) use the 529. The middle class isn't being screwed.
The point is educating people more. America is severely behind in education. A 2 year government/tax funded degree is better than nothing.
Yes. Embarrassing. You have no argument.
Bruh, did you even read the definition of a tax? If it's an insurance, then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor, not having some person tell me what to do with my body......wait, that argument sounds VERY familiar used by a certain American party with a donkey, hmmmmm?
No, families that use the plan are mostly middle-class. They're being screwed. Stop sticking up for the crook, please
Then improve the public school system. You're not benefiting anybody when you're spending government money and nothing comes out of it because the laws of supply and demand say when you have too much of one thing (this case a college degree) then it's value decrease dramatically, forcing people to spend their own money in order to be attractive to prospective employers.
No, I do have an argument. You just refuse to be open-minded to a person that disagrees with you and instead say something is embarrassing
Seriously, you're taking a non issue, twisting the facts, and then blaming it all on Obama because... he's black?
This is where I have a problem. I don't care what as to the rest you said, because it's an opinion that has no meaning to me. But this, this is complete bullshit. I'm not twisting the facts, I've posted credible links that show the truth. You're the one down-playing the facts. Even more pathetic is that you play the race card because of your close-mindedness. News Flash: Obama is just as white as he is black. You seriously need some help if you think this way and want to become a member to society
>strawmanning the half joke part of my post because you don't have a fucking leg to stand on >mfw gunning down your "sources" which prove there is no correlation between Obama's plan and the degree issue
Oh my God, it's like talking with a 6 year old, with you being the 6 year old I'm not strawmanning. I'm stating how wrong you are. Do you even know what a strawman is? Uh, you didn't gun down anything. You're just embarrassing yourself for ignoring somebody showing you how wrong you are. If you can't use simple cognitive ability to understand that a program used by the middle-class to tax something is going against the idea of protecting the middle-class, there is no hope for you. If you can't understand the laws of supply and demand, there is no hope for you. If you can't understand a 4-year degree costs more than a 2-year degree, there is no hope for you But you are right about one thing: Our education sucks and you're the poster child of it due to your inability of linking simple facts together
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« on: January 27, 2015, 06:26:06 PM »
then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor,
You do. I have my own plan with my own doctor.
*Aside from the fact thousands have lost their doctors and/or plans and certain plans are ineligible
A LOT OF THESE SAME PEOPLE HAVE REFUSED TO EVEN GO ON THE OBAMACARE WEB PAGE
Wrong.....Seeing as how insurance is now required, people can't go without it. Continue to support a policy that destroys the foundations of free will and Capitalism
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« on: January 27, 2015, 06:23:32 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs >yfw obama wants to protect middle class >yfw obama makes free college >yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college" >yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money >yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive
>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/ http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15 http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax. And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED
I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.
"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem?
Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.
And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.
Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.
It is a tax
tax taks/Submit noun 1. a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.
You have to buy insurance or face consequences; it's compulsory
So you're aware in his address that he mentions protecting the middle class?
It does correlate. In order to pay for "free" college (nothing is ever free), he's going to tax a program used predominately by middle class families and tax it........when he said he was going to protect the middle class. If you don't see ANYTHING wrong about that then I don't know what else to say
My last link compares the cost of a 2-year degree to a 4-year degree, where a semester at a 4-year degree is more expensive than a 2-year degree. More people with a 2-year degree means having to get a 4-year or higher degree which costs more money, a fact that makes the entire plan redundant
This is embarrassing? Showing how this plan is a big joke is embarrassing? Why am I not surprised by your words?
It's insurance. Not a tax.
3% of families (they're mostly high income families) use the 529. The middle class isn't being screwed.
The point is educating people more. America is severely behind in education. A 2 year government/tax funded degree is better than nothing.
Yes. Embarrassing. You have no argument.
Bruh, did you even read the definition of a tax? If it's an insurance, then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor, not having some person tell me what to do with my body......wait, that argument sounds VERY familiar used by a certain American party with a donkey, hmmmmm?
No, families that use the plan are mostly middle-class. They're being screwed. Stop sticking up for the crook, please
Then improve the public school system. You're not benefiting anybody when you're spending government money and nothing comes out of it because the laws of supply and demand say when you have too much of one thing (this case a college degree) then it's value decrease dramatically, forcing people to spend their own money in order to be attractive to prospective employers.
No, I do have an argument. You just refuse to be open-minded to a person that disagrees with you and instead say something is embarrassing
Seriously, you're taking a non issue, twisting the facts, and then blaming it all on Obama because... he's black?....Some kid going to school to be a cop with an irrational hatred for the Democratic Party and Obama isn't going to trick me.
This is where I have a problem. I don't care what as to the rest you said, because it's an opinion that has no meaning to me. But this, this is complete bullshit. I'm not twisting the facts, I've posted credible links that show the truth. You're the one down-playing the facts. Even more pathetic is that you play the race card because of your close-mindedness. News Flash: Obama is just as white as he is black. You seriously need some help if you think this way and want to become a member to society. Just because I disagree greatly with my former associating party and former favorite president, that doesn't mean I have an irrational hate
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« on: January 27, 2015, 06:07:39 PM »
then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor,
You do. I have my own plan with my own doctor.
*Aside from the fact thousands have lost their doctors and/or plans and certain plans are ineligible
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« on: January 27, 2015, 06:06:02 PM »
Under .08? Yes
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« on: January 27, 2015, 06:03:35 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs >yfw obama wants to protect middle class >yfw obama makes free college >yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college" >yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money >yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive
>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/ http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15 http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax. And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED
I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.
"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem?
Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.
And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.
Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.
It is a tax
tax taks/Submit noun 1. a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.
You have to buy insurance or face consequences; it's compulsory
So you're aware in his address that he mentions protecting the middle class?
It does correlate. In order to pay for "free" college (nothing is ever free), he's going to tax a program used predominately by middle class families and tax it........when he said he was going to protect the middle class. If you don't see ANYTHING wrong about that then I don't know what else to say
My last link compares the cost of a 2-year degree to a 4-year degree, where a semester at a 4-year degree is more expensive than a 2-year degree. More people with a 2-year degree means having to get a 4-year or higher degree which costs more money, a fact that makes the entire plan redundant
This is embarrassing? Showing how this plan is a big joke is embarrassing? Why am I not surprised by your words?
It's insurance. Not a tax.
3% of families (they're mostly high income families) use the 529. The middle class isn't being screwed.
The point is educating people more. America is severely behind in education. A 2 year government/tax funded degree is better than nothing.
Yes. Embarrassing. You have no argument.
Bruh, did you even read the definition of a tax? If it's an insurance, then I should have the right to pick out my own plan with my own doctor, not having some person tell me what to do with my body......wait, that argument sounds VERY familiar used by a certain American party with a donkey, hmmmmm? No, families that use the plan are mostly middle-class. They're being screwed. Stop sticking up for the crook, please Then improve the public school system. You're not benefiting anybody when you're spending government money and nothing comes out of it because the laws of supply and demand say when you have too much of one thing (this case a college degree) then it's value decrease dramatically, forcing people to spend their own money in order to be attractive to prospective employers. No, I do have an argument. You just refuse to be open-minded to a person that disagrees with you and instead say something is embarrassing
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:53:01 PM »
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:50:41 PM »
>yfw obama says no new taxes bs >yfw obama wants to protect middle class >yfw obama makes free college >yfw obama taxes middle class assets to pay for "free college" >yfw retarded rhetoric is to save people money >yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive
>shitposting in Serious
>getting mad at the facts
Nah I just think it's funny you think we're going to take you seriously. Go ahead and prove these are facts and then I'll take you seriously. No retard sources either.
Stay mad
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/07/19/obama-promised-he-wouldnt-raise-taxes-on-the-middle-class-he-lied/ http://www.npr.org/2015/01/20/378680818/transcript-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/27/obamas-529-plan-would-change-how-families-save-for-college http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/average-published-undergraduate-charges-sector-2014-15 http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/5-facts-about-todays-college-graduates/
"But as the Supreme Court has now authoritatively ruled, the Obamacare individual mandate, requiring workers to purchase the health insurance the government specifies each family must buy, is a tax. And that tax applies to the middle class and working people." Health insurance is a tax? LOL DROPPED
I've watched the State of the Union. Not sure why you linked me the script.
"Obama has focused on taxing 529 plans because a large number of families that use them are relatively high-income. Wealthier families benefit disproportionally from the current tax-free status of these plans, since they would pay a higher marginal tax rate if the plans were taxed like income." What's the problem?
Nothing correlates with Obama's plan here. These are pretty long term trends we're seeing here and have not been influenced by something Obama has said recently.
And your last link has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's plan.
Where exactly was your argument there? This is just embarrassing.
It is a tax tax taks/Submit noun 1. a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions. You have to buy insurance or face consequences; it's compulsory So you're aware in his address that he mentions protecting the middle class? It does correlate. In order to pay for "free" college (nothing is ever free), he's going to tax a program used predominately by middle class families and tax it........when he said he was going to protect the middle class. If you don't see ANYTHING wrong about that then I don't know what else to say My last link compares the cost of a 2-year degree to a 4-year degree, where a semester at a 4-year degree is more expensive than a 2-year degree. More people with a 2-year degree means having to get a 4-year or higher degree which costs more money, a fact that makes the entire plan redundant This is embarrassing? Showing how this plan is a big joke is embarrassing? Why am I not surprised by your words?
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:44:27 PM »
Actually, it's funny knowing I managed to have a porn thread on bnet for 3 days without getting a ban but you get one immediately
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:40:30 PM »
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:38:53 PM »
RPers should kill themselves
>says the fig rping as a keyboard button
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:38:20 PM »
because it's trusday and we all imagine tru ramming our assholes with bad dragon dildos?
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:37:27 PM »
some people
want to watch the world burn?
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:33:18 PM »
some people
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:32:21 PM »
a level of maturity and respect
I'd rather they were intelligent.
( ͡ ͡° ͡° ʖ ͡° ͡°)
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:29:17 PM »
All I heard was
"chicken, white women, its da po-po"
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:28:11 PM »
Is that the youthdebates forum again?
( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
Lol. Enjoying yourself there?
I am actually. It's not as fast paced like here, but people actually have a level of maturity and respect
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« on: January 27, 2015, 05:27:16 PM »
That's it. I am so done with Bungie right now Till you get banned from here
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