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The Flood / Re: So my class had to debate about homosexuality in health today.« on: November 19, 2014, 05:37:49 PM »
Fucking damn......
Reminds me the days I would fucking school the shit out of blinded Democrats in my government class constantly 2824
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:35:45 PM »You would have to hire people to build the wall. You would also have to hire people to maintain the wall, patrol, etc. So you're actually creating jobs with such a plan that won't be a temporary thingI put that because like philosophy, economics is a subjective and differing topic.AHA. 2825
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:33:48 PM »But Paul has also studied economics and philosophy himself, making him in the same ballpark as Meta and PsyIt actually does show intelligence Yet here you are, repeating yourself 2826
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:30:40 PM »The First Law of Economists: For every economist, there exists an equal and opposite economist.And yet, Paul has greatly studied Austrian Economics and has read the writings of Objectivist philosopher Ayn Rand. Not only that, but to be a politician and involved with politics, you need to know what the hell you're doing.I didn't disagree with any of that, in any form. I'm just saying I, also, have studied politics and economics and my life-defining qualification will also be in that area. The Second Law of Economists: They're both wrong. I put that because like philosophy, economics is a subjective and differing topic. What one person says or thinks isn't the same way everybody else thinks. You and others may say illegal immigration bring economic growth, I and others disagree with that Putting aside my extreme bias? Yes, he does. Afterall the nation hasn't turned into tribals fighting each other nor have we turned into a 3rd world country 2827
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:23:51 PM »It actually does show intelligence"HUR MUH SUPERUR LIBTARD" opinions all you want, but they are not nor will they ever be fact. http://www.statisticbrain.com/iq-estimates-by-intended-college-major/ The issue is that it isn't enforced 2828
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:20:47 PM »And yet, Paul has greatly studied Austrian Economics and has read the writings of Objectivist philosopher Ayn Rand. Not only that, but to be a politician and involved with politics, you need to know what the hell you're doing.Intelligent people such as Rand Paul who have actual university disagreesYou demonstrate intelligence through discourse and development, not qualifications. In the context of this discussion, Psy and I are both intelligent individuals. Rand Paul is intelligent and knows his shit. Just because a person has a medical degree, doesn't mean they never took courses involving economics or philosophy. 2829
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:13:47 PM »>trying to put off the blunt truthMore people are being deported because more are coming here illegally, as I pointed out twice earlierAgain, there's no mathematical necessity for numbers of illegal immigrants to correlate with deportation. That only exists within the current shitty paradigm. 2830
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:13:03 PM »Ever hear of this nifty thing called opinions? You can screech your "HUR MUH SUPERUR LIBTARD" opinions all you want, but they are not nor will they ever be fact. Intelligent people such as Rand Paul who have actual university disagrees disagree with Meta, you, and Psy so that must mean you all are wrong according to your logicBecause everybody here diasagrees with my opinion=/=I'm wrong, you're right It's not broken. If it was actually enforced then there wouldn't be a damn fucking issue right now. Can you get that through your fucking skull that's thicker than all of Camnator's booty threads combined? So again. because some people say something, that means I'm rong? Fucking retarded logic right there. If you were to be discussing this on a conservative site then you would be wrong, going again by your logic Liberal is an insult, seeing liberals are ruining this county 2831
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:07:25 PM »The system isn't enforced.I've already demonstrated how Obama has been one of the most nativist peacetime presidents. More people are being deported because more are coming here illegally, as I pointed out twice earlier Actually it is the fault of Obama because he has done nothing, like Bush, Clinton, and others to tighten the border and establish harsher penalties to those that break federal law 2832
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:03:51 PM »Ever heard of the Mexican Cartel? Mexican Mafia? How about other Latin American gangs such as MS13? Yeah, no threat is being posed. Guess what? MS13 was formed after Reagan granted amnsty to illegals and they in turn formed the gangBecause mexican immigrants are warriors coming to conquer.The short-lived Qin and Han Dynasties faced serious threats from northern nomadic tribes, including the Xiongnu. So in aspects of being flooded with foreigners, there exists similaritiesHave you ever learned about ancient Chinese history? Because if you did, you'd learn that the Qin Dynasty started the construction of the Great Wall,Even you must be even basically aware of the sheer fucking stupidity of comparing the Qin Dynasty's construction of the Wall to America's situation/capacity. 2833
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 05:02:35 PM »Why are you saying this about yourself? You must have low self-esteemHave you ever learned about ancient Chinese history? Because if you did, you'd learn that the Qin Dynasty started the construction of the Great Wall,Even you must be even basically aware of the sheer fucking stupidity of comparing the Qin Dynasty's construction of the Wall to America's situation/capacity. Because everybody here diasagrees with my opinion=/=I'm wrong, you're right This forum is a beacon for liberalism so it's no wonder people will be hateful to an opinion that's not shared. Just because everybody else is stealing or committing vandalism, it doesn't make it right and legal The system isn't enforced. If you read my early posts, you'd see I stated that. Talk about me not reading responses? You just spout your blinded liberal concepts 2834
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 04:59:56 PM »1. Genghis was Mongolian, not Xiongnu/Hun. That was AtillaSome mexican cleaning lady =/= the horde of genghis khan.The short-lived Qin and Han Dynasties faced serious threats from northern nomadic tribes, including the Xiongnu. So in aspects of being flooded with foreigners, there exists similaritiesHave you ever learned about ancient Chinese history? Because if you did, you'd learn that the Qin Dynasty started the construction of the Great Wall,Even you must be even basically aware of the sheer fucking stupidity of comparing the Qin Dynasty's construction of the Wall to America's situation/capacity. 2. 10-15 million illegals are present in America If that number isn't a big of a deal, then there's a issue on how you see things 2835
Serious / Re: Give me a good reason to make military impersonation a felony« on: November 19, 2014, 04:58:47 PM »I believe the 2013 replaced the previous version, which was unconstitutionalIt is, but it's notWasn't the '13 version of Stolen Valor declared unconstitutional? 2836
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 04:57:33 PM »Why are you saying this about yourself? You must have low self-esteemHave you ever learned about ancient Chinese history? Because if you did, you'd learn that the Qin Dynasty started the construction of the Great Wall,Even you must be even basically aware of the sheer fucking stupidity of comparing the Qin Dynasty's construction of the Wall to America's situation/capacity. 2837
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 04:56:54 PM »The short-lived Qin and Han Dynasties faced serious threats from northern nomadic tribes, including the Xiongnu. So in aspects of being flooded with foreigners, there exists similaritiesHave you ever learned about ancient Chinese history? Because if you did, you'd learn that the Qin Dynasty started the construction of the Great Wall,Even you must be even basically aware of the sheer fucking stupidity of comparing the Qin Dynasty's construction of the Wall to America's situation/capacity. 2838
Serious / Re: It's the 1790s, which political party do you support?« on: November 19, 2014, 04:53:07 PM »
Democrat-Republicans. No questions asked
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Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 04:49:39 PM »So physical devices that prevent people from crossing is "silly"? Ladies and gentlemen, the logic of a liberal! Have you ever learned about ancient Chinese history? Because if you did, you'd learn that the Qin Dynasty started the construction of the Great Wall, which helped to PREVENT invasions. Who would have fucking guessed that a wall keeps people out?! It's mind blowing! If you're well aware of how executive orders work, then you'd realize there's NO Constitutional basis to pass this law and it goes beyond the scope pf the duty of the executive by enforcing laws. The purpose of E.Os is to help this branch better enforce laws Hire somebody? Training costs? You're seriously going to change the tables here, huh? This is discussing the cost of a person wanting to immigrate alone. gg no re Do you even realize that about 99% of the budget for immigration services operates on the costs of these fees? Decrease the cost then you will have to raise taxes or still ahve to redistribute money from the budget. Think logically for once 2840
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 03:30:52 PM »Did you not read the part of the government making empty promises about reform? LOL, do you even understand the concept of E.O? They're not some "get out of jail for free' card that allows the president to do whatever they want. E.Os are foremost subjected to judicial review and can be struck down. Secondly, an executive order must have support in the Constitution, either in a clause granting the President specific power, or by a delegation of power by Congress to the President http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2700946/From-bribing-drug-cartels-immigration-officials-paying-hotels-train-rides-Coyote-smugglers-reveal-costs-involved-smuggling-child-migrants-Central-America-U-S.html $4-$10K to be smuggled. Yeah, it's that expensive 2841
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 03:23:02 PM »And yet the way to fill demand is through outsourcing. People can demand goods and services all they want, but doesn't mean the people of the nation the demand originates from don't get jobs that meets said demand. If that was the case then unemployment would be in a great decline, as would homelessnessIllegals do take jobsNot true, like I told Max, they boost AD. And those are individuals who came here legally with most chances a college degree already. Legal immigrants are what's good for a nation and economy 2842
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 03:18:56 PM »How is it a waste? It's a fucking barrier to keep people out. It's not rocket scienceI'm not opposed to a wall being constructed. We have them in some places but they're just fences that people can climb Government promised long ago back in the 80s they would fix the policy. Government has said it multiples time yet here we are again, spouting something that will never happen or get fixed Know an interesting fact? Philippines has the longest waiting time. Yet if these illegals don't have money, how could they afford being smuggled once, twice, even three times when the costs are far more than the legal way? 2843
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 03:13:08 PM »Are immigrants really taking REAL jobs? They aren't being hired as accountants or customer service reps. They're picking berries and shit.They're being hired as construction workers, lawn care workers, etc Other people aren't being hired as accountants or customer service reps. either. Not like there's an endless supply of these jobs 2844
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 03:11:42 PM »Illegals do take jobs2. Lol, it's not a bs excuse.Yes it is. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm U6. Read it and look at the percentage 2845
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 03:05:00 PM »1. Tell that to the families who are trying to get away in a legal mannerYes, please let's tell families and children attempting who are waiting in line in a legal manner to "go fuck yourselves" because we now have to deal with people who couldn't waitAnd yet illegal immigration jumps for third year in a row under ObamaDemocrats want to pass all these fucking laws yet the current ones are not being enforced effectivelyAnd yet Obama has presided over one of the largest peacetime outflows of people in America's history. 2. Lol, it's not a bs excuse. You only say that because you can't comprehend that unemployment is over 10% and homelessness totals 2.2 million 2846
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 03:03:40 PM »I'm not opposed to a wall being constructed. We have them in some places but they're just fences that people can climb1. Move fundsOr, we can direct more funds to border security and adopt harsher personalities for those who break federal lawThat's ridiculous on the face of it. How is it broken? You apply for greencard, you wait 5 years so government can monitor you, then you apply for citizenship. And the costs come absolutely nowhere near the amount these people pay to get smuggled across 2847
Serious / Re: "Guns r bad mmkay"« on: November 19, 2014, 03:00:06 PM »In that case, it's rather simple to construct protective gear that can resist small handgun calibersDon't go off a tangent plebian, we were talking about guns in the home.Yes, because people don't huntyes because deer and elk are regular offenders, they run up on peoples home like "yo nigga gimme yo wallet"I see no problem with guns in the home, although other than a pistol what else do you need?Explain how a 9mm cartridge can take down an elk or deer? 2848
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 02:57:50 PM »1. Move fundsOr, we can direct more funds to border security and adopt harsher personalities for those who break federal lawThat's ridiculous on the face of it. 2. Build camera and tracking systems at certain intervals 3. Hire people to watch said camera and systems 4. Dispatch team when something is picked up It's pants on the head easy 2849
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday« on: November 19, 2014, 02:56:32 PM »Right back at youOr, we can direct more funds to border security and adopt harsher personalities for those who break federal lawThis only teaches illegals that coming here illegally means they will eventually be able to stayOr, on the other hand, you could liberalise the fucking immigration laws so people aren't overly-tempted to get in illegally. 2850
Serious / Re: "Guns r bad mmkay"« on: November 19, 2014, 02:55:51 PM »Yes, because people don't huntyes because deer and elk are regular offenders, they run up on peoples home like "yo nigga gimme yo wallet"I see no problem with guns in the home, although other than a pistol what else do you need?Explain how a 9mm cartridge can take down an elk or deer? Yes, because all animals just stand still Yes, because a headshot won't ruin the meat/fur Yes, because a missed headshot won't cause a painful death for the animals |