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« on: January 09, 2015, 11:06:36 PM »
Or the 3 or so actual gays and the users that act like it?
DAS
Tru
Oss
Eyyyyyy
The difference is....
I'm the virgin.
The virgin gay one.
Excellent.
The Virgin asexual one.
im dsexual
Dumbass Sexual?
no das sexual
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« on: January 09, 2015, 11:05:33 PM »
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« on: January 09, 2015, 11:04:41 PM »
Or the 3 or so actual gays and the users that act like it?
DAS
Tru
Oss
Eyyyyyy
The difference is....
I'm the virgin.
The virgin gay one.
Excellent.
The Virgin asexual one.
im dsexual
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« on: January 09, 2015, 11:03:57 PM »
Sertraline?
I take that at a 100mg
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« on: January 09, 2015, 11:01:59 PM »
Currently wasting time every politician ever.
keks
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« on: January 09, 2015, 11:00:28 PM »
Damn pretty accurate
i havent seen it be 'northern enough to suck for southerners'.
Terry McAuliffe
i didnt vote this time 'round. i slept through voting hours.
what's he done?
Currently wasting time to get the one handgun per month law put back into effect
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:57:07 PM »
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:47:22 PM »
Searching through imgur for an appropriate response... and... \\You know what? I'm just gonna distract the faggots with this.
Now's you chance to strike, Icy.
I'd tap dat
http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/3519807/0/0
Kinder's incoherent! Get him!
I'm always incoherent
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:46:04 PM »
Damn pretty accurate
i havent seen it be 'northern enough to suck for southerners'.
Terry McAuliffe
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:41:22 PM »
Searching through imgur for an appropriate response... and... \\You know what? I'm just gonna distract the faggots with this.
Now's you chance to strike, Icy.
I'd tap dat http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/3519807/0/0
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:29:00 PM »
Legalizing of marijuana (which has great economic benefits) and decriminalizing over drugs(decrease prison population) would be a great first start
Yes it would.
But I'm still waiting for you to actually think this idea of a military involvement through.
It's something I would still support
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:26:28 PM »
But if they're providing social services, why are millions trying to run from them and why are thousands taking up arms against them?
You tell me, you seem to be the expert on solving Mexico's problems.
You know what we could do to undercut the cartels which doesn't involve sending people to their deaths? Legalisation of drugs, would be a good starting point.
Legalizing of marijuana (which has great economic benefits) and decriminalizing over drugs(decrease prison population) would be a great first start
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:25:04 PM »
I fucking knew it would be about Tornadoes
As a former Oklahoman, I agree with this
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:24:42 PM »
Damn pretty accurate
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:23:24 PM »
And I provided links why illegal immigration won't help the issue.
I'll say it again:
Great, now show me where I said illegal immigration was totally fine and it shouldn't be addressed.
Through your responses of dissatisfaction over my harmless personal beliefs
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:22:10 PM »
I blame the spread of Islamic extremism on military action. Last I checked, Mexico isn't a terrorist state-sponsoring safe haven
Well without getting into the reasoning behind why the first sentence is totally incorrect, might I ask if you've even considered how this would impact the Mexican populace and also the international community.
I mean, the cartels do provide social services. It's not as if they wouldn't be able to rally some sort of nationalistic fervour against the American Imperialists. . .
Seeing as how millions have crossed over, I seriously doubt the Mexican people would shun us or be afraid of us. There could be the possibility of turning Mexico into an actual first world nation like we turned Japan into one after WWII But if they're providing social services, why are millions trying to run from them and why are thousands taking up arms against them?
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:18:37 PM »
. . .
Great, now show me where I said illegal immigration was totally fine and it shouldn't be addressed.
Oh wait, I didn't fucking do that at all.
I said kicking illegals out for the sake of it, instead of legally assimilating them into the economy, is--at best--latent sadism.
than the fucking socioeconomic condition of your country. And I provided links why illegal immigration won't help the issue. So it's not mindless sadism
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:16:39 PM »
I'd be in favor of a controlled engagement of ground troops against the cartels with the approval of the Mexican government
Aren't you one of those people who constantly blame insurgencies on military adventurism? Why the fuck would Mexico be any different?
These two questions, of course, ignore the reality that it's a ridiculous idea in the first place. . . But they need asking.
I blame the spread of Islamic extremism on military action. Last I checked, Mexico isn't a terrorist state-sponsoring safe haven
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:09:21 PM »
The Federal Government DOES NOT have the resources to arrest, put on trial, and deport (at a minimum) the 11 million estimated illegal immigrants in our country.
That's why you take away all the incentives to come across illegally in the first place.
like magically making the cartels and corrupt mexican government disappear and be replaced by a utopian society where everyone is happy?
Because of Mexico's impact on America and inability of the government to solve the problem, I'd be in favor of a controlled engagement of ground troops against the cartels with the approval of the Mexican government
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:04:50 PM »
Really, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came from
That's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.
And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over it
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:04:08 PM »
That's why you take away all the incentives to come across illegally in the first place.
You do realise the incentive to come illegally comes from the fact that's it's complicated as shit to do it legally?
It's fuck all to do with welfare; it's the desperation to have a better life regardless. Why would you even want to remove the incentives immigrants have for coming to your country? You'd wreck the fucking economy in a heartbeat.
There's a difference between removing incentives from illegals and legals
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« on: January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PM »
The Federal Government DOES NOT have the resources to arrest, put on trial, and deport (at a minimum) the 11 million estimated illegal immigrants in our country.
That's why you take away all the incentives to come across illegally in the first place.
So you'd have to make things worse here than where they're coming from...
Really, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came from
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« on: January 09, 2015, 09:58:20 PM »
The Federal Government DOES NOT have the resources to arrest, put on trial, and deport (at a minimum) the 11 million estimated illegal immigrants in our country.
That's why you take away all the incentives to come across illegally in the first place.
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« on: January 09, 2015, 09:52:05 PM »
Department of Education
Last time anything happened there was under Bush. . .
I think we all want to avoid anything like that happening again >.>
You mean NCLB?
Please don't remind me of that atrocious idea
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« on: January 09, 2015, 09:09:34 PM »
I would love it so damn much if we can go back a couple of decades where anybody could be middle-class, have a simple high school diploma, and be a manager at a department store or wherever
People back then also weren't nearly as educated. But sure, go ahead and travel back in time. I'm sure you'd fit in perfectly.
Yep, just 20 years ago people were running around in nothing but a loin cloth and throwing rocks at animals to see what would be a better tool for hunting. Seriously, would it be any harm for you to think for once? If anybody would fit perfectly with cavemen it would be you
Twenty years ago, there was no internet for the general consumer. Phones were still tethered to a wall with a 20ft cable. Hell, have you seen their fashion?
It may only have been 20 years ago, but the world was quite different.
And that matters exactly how?
Because Kinder - you say shit like "Oh, I wish we could go back twenty years to where things were so much better!" - and then say "Oh, what does that matter" when some of the biggest innovations weren't even around.
Guess what - prices of products have gone up, wages for entry level jobs, along with positions like managers, has not significantly changed. Great, in 1995, you could live modestly as a manager. Shit was cheaper then.
I'm saying we should go back to when you don't need a degree in order to become the manager of McDonalds
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« on: January 09, 2015, 09:03:18 PM »
For the fat cats on top, sure.
For the general public? It means getting a decent job is that much harder.
It also means goods can be bought cheaper. Outsourcing isn't the problem, a poor welfare and educational system is.
We should want these jobs to be outsourced, because it's the kind of work that doesn't need developed infrastructure to support--it gives income to people in the third world, and increases consumer surplus for people here. It isn't just a game of wage-rates for the "fat cats", you have to consider crime and other socioeconomic factors around your business. When they outsource, it really is because American labour is too expensive.
In saying that, the solution is again to restore trust in the mandatory educational system and maintain the equilibrium between the value of qualifications. Not just shunting more people into higher education and causing their new-found qualification to decrease in value.
I still say we need more (better) jobs, but that's an entirely different topic.
Yes, we do need more jobs but we can't simply create an artificial market for these jobs. You know what's possibly the greatest thing about America? That you don't need to fill out applications for a job and instead start your own. Just look at all the Chinese restaurants you see wherever you go: They were started by immigrants and were able to make a better life for their family because of their aspirations of the American Dream, which is still very much alive. However the nation has gotten lazier and you see among many people that building something is too much work
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« on: January 09, 2015, 09:00:03 PM »
I would love it so damn much if we can go back a couple of decades where anybody could be middle-class, have a simple high school diploma, and be a manager at a department store or wherever
People back then also weren't nearly as educated. But sure, go ahead and travel back in time. I'm sure you'd fit in perfectly.
Yep, just 20 years ago people were running around in nothing but a loin cloth and throwing rocks at animals to see what would be a better tool for hunting. Seriously, would it be any harm for you to think for once? If anybody would fit perfectly with cavemen it would be you
Twenty years ago, there was no internet for the general consumer. Phones were still tethered to a wall with a 20ft cable. Hell, have you seen their fashion?
It may only have been 20 years ago, but the world was quite different.
And that matters exactly how? Bill Gates, one of the most richest men in the world, dropped out of college and created one of the biggest and most known corporations in history. He didn't need a degree to build what he created and it's pure brainwashing that to somehow to be middle-class, you somehow need a degree. Not everybody plans to be a chemist or astrophysicist and degrees to get careers to live a modest life style are complete scams
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« on: January 09, 2015, 08:56:58 PM »
FYI to get a good job anywhere you already need a degree of some sort. It's not going to devalue the diploma any more than it already is. Plus that implies that everyone passes and gets it.
What exactly is wrong with having more educated people anyway?
Yeah, you need a degree now because people keep pushing the idea that somehow to be successful, you need a piece of paper saying you were able to stay awake for a certain amount of hours. I would love it so damn much if we can go back a couple of decades where anybody could be middle-class, have a simple high school diploma, and be a manager at a department store or wherever
> Manager at a department store
We're really reaching for some careers here.
Not everyone can be an astrophysicist. Someone's gotta provide them with material goods and access to said goods. Managerial positions aren't a bad job, and always have the prospect of moving from department to location to district.
Any higher, and yeah... you'll need that paper that people like to substitute for experience and common sense.
Exactly - managerial jobs are something most people can do without a college career. That doesn't make it a good career.
Because to qualify as a "good career" a position must require a college degree... right...
No - something that qualifies as a "good career" means the career, along with pay and benefits, will easily be able to sustain an adequate, modest lifestyle for you (and your loved ones), preferably being something you enjoy doing.
Of course, this is my definition. You may think otherwise.
I see plenty of management and leadership type roles in blue collar environments around here that can more than adequately provide a decent middle class lifestyle to a typical family.
That's great - here in New York State, you're screwed if that is your sole career.
Which is why NY is seeing more people moving to states with lesser taxes and better living accommodations
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« on: January 09, 2015, 08:55:52 PM »
What exactly is wrong with having more educated people anyway?
Part of the devaluation process isn't just people having more of a certain qualification, but it's the strain placed on educational infrastructure--it essentially turns it into a continuation of mass-schooling.
What really needs to be done is an improvement of primary and secondary education.
I agree with that last part but I still see nothing wrong with more people having a higher level of education.
Scarcity matters.
If more people have a masters degree, it becomes worth less. That's true in any sort of situation in which the supply of something goes up. We need to have higher levels of education as we get more and more information--of course--but we ought to do it in a way of occasionally restructuring all levels of education. Just pushing more and more people into university delays dealing with the problem and allows it to saturate and get worse and worse.
A free two years at community isn't giving more people masters degrees. All it does is give more people a shot at an AA and a potential jump start towards a bachelors or even as you say, a masters.
So your point seems kind of moot.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm
The labor participation among people with an AA is around the 64% mark. That means 36% of grads can't find a job right now. Put more people into the mix and that number will increase to the point people having to shell out over $25,000 in order to get 2-4 more years of college experience, vs. having to pay less than $10,000 for a community college
Or y'know.... make more jobs, rather than outsourcing shit overseas and blaming it on there being too many people with an education.
We would all love to see jobs brought back to America, but many of them that are outsource require no degree in the first place so it's redundant to have a degree in order to take phone calls at a office. On top of that, what do incentives do we even give companies in the first place? Because raising taxes to pay for this idea isn't helping one single bit
Oh boy. Take a moment to untwist your panties, m'kay? Just because you're giving people the opportunity towards 2 years at a community...that doesn't mean that they're actually gonna take it. If you don't have the grades in high school you're not going to make it to college anyway. What's 2 years gonna get you anyway? An associates? Okay, big deal. I mean, some people don't even get their associates completely done in 2 years anyway.
Why the fuck is more people with associates degrees bad anyways? All it means is that they're a bit more specialized towards a certain line of work, but uh...associates degrees now don't get you all that far anyway. The bottom line though, is that it might help you get your foot in the door for something better than a shitty retail/fast food job.
So if they're not going to take it, then exactly why suggest it in the first place and waste time? High school is very different from college. I went from being a B and C student to having a 3.30 GPA in college. And many people do get their AA done in 2 years Did you even bother to look at the link I posted? About 35% of graduates are unemployed because the increase of people obtaining degrees. There's simply no market to accommodate these people and in return they have to spend even more time and money just to have a better chance when they shouldn't in the first place Do you get it? Flooding the market with even more graduates when employment sucks is bad. In order to have a better chance, people have to spend more time and spend far more money than an associates degree to cost in order to possibly get a job
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