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1921
« on: December 08, 2014, 08:43:29 AM »
Pearl Harbor was an unprovoked act of war against America.
No, they were provoked by America withholding oil and steel from the Japanese. It was either go to war or collapse from lack of resources.
No actually. 1940s Japan had a heavily imperialistic culture. They'd already assimilated most of China and the Philippines at that point, and set their gaze upon America since they were right across the Pacific. I don't know what revisionist history you've been reading into, but lack of resources they did not have. They just wanted to attack America because they thought American's as people were subhuman and weak, and because they could.
Now, whether or not US intelligence knew Pearl Harbour was going to happen or not is an entirely different discussion topic in and of itself, but it was most definitely and unprovoked act of aggression on Japan's behalf.
Partially correct here. Japan had been Imperialistic really since the the 1860s with the creation of the Empire of Japan, but it was the 1930s that Japan became increasingly militaristic with the Great Depression, which led to the rise of the military having control over Hirohito and the government. But Japanese annexation began more or less with the takeover of Korea in 1910. Japan then turned to Chinese Manchuria in the 30s. The Philippines was a U.S territory with a contingent if U.S troops on station. Japan invaded the island nation at the same exact time they launched the attack on Pearl Harbor. The ultimate motive of Japan was to create a Asian and Pacific empire and that would include U.S territories. So war was inevitable, embargo or not But the earliest known of intelligence was created by Gen. Mitchell of the Army Air Corps who saw first hand of Japan's military preparations for an attack in the 1920s, a decade before any embargo. he predicted exact details of the attack Either way, placing the blame on America is revisionist history and it's bullshit
1922
« on: December 08, 2014, 08:30:15 AM »
Pearl Harbor was an unprovoked act of war against America.
No, they were provoked by America withholding oil and steel from the Japanese. It was either go to war or collapse from lack of resources.
Once again, Japan fucking raped and murdered Chinese women and children and made Koreans girls into sex slaves. They deserved the embargos because America wasn't going to sit and watch as their resources were being used to commit mass human rights violations Take your revisionist history somewhere else please
1923
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:39:55 AM »
The original point has been addressed: the attack on Pearl Harbor was most definitely provoked.
You've failed to justify the claim that economic sanctions are tantamount to provocation of war.
You've failed to read the next few words.
It's perfectly logical for America to cut off trade with a hostile nation actively fighting America's allies,
But hardly profitable.
and Japan surely anticipated that.
If they did, they would have attacked before America cut off two of their most needed resources.
In addition, it's obvious that the instigation of war wasn't an attempt to renew trade with America.
Of course not, but it could have been put to use by America nonetheless.
Regardless, that was hardly the point of my original post.
But it is the point of the thread.
Japan was violating human rights and killing/raping fucking women and children. Do you seriously think the U.S should stand idle when they can tell Japan to cut it out by restricting one item of trade? America knew decades before the Japs were going to attack America, before any of that ever happened. Embargo or not, we were going to be attacked as the Japanese wanted to control the Pacific, including U.S territories
1924
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:36:24 AM »
Didn't FDR basically provoke the attack anyway?...
Yeah, because responding to the Japanese killing and raping of women and children across China by placing an oil embargo is totally wrong and we were the ones provoking. Read up on your history text book
1925
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:35:09 AM »
For those of you who resent the Japanese for Pearl Harbor... Who does that?
I just witnessed some dipshit say how much he hates the Japanese. I think it was Kinder.
Holy shit, are you high right now? So many people have used that joke before, just in another variation. Really, stop trying to make people seem they are hateful. How the hell is this thread in Serious anyway?
1926
« on: December 08, 2014, 06:31:44 AM »
Posted in The Flood, not worth my time. You are entitled to your own opinions, have a good day.
*rereads previous comments on your behalf*
This is supposed to be in Serious but I fucked up
Your opinion about anyone still hating modern Japanese people for Pearl Harbor is valid, but it's obvious this thread would be bait and a huge mess, even in serious. The truth is, the OP doesn't have much discussion (because it's so obvious).
Because anything you disagree with is bait, right?
I'm not trying to bait anyone. I'm stating how I feel on the matter and it didn't really help that I clicked off of Serious when I posted this.
Apologies. I didn't mean you posted this as intentional bait or that the opinion stated in the OP is bait. Anyone who believes that all differing opinions are bait is an idiot. I'm saying the title doesn't correlate properly with the post to provide discussion, and instead created something more effective as bait.
I see now.
The title is more in response to Kinder's bullshit-ass comment earlier.
Not only are you butthurt, but you have no concept of history. The Japanese attacked America unprovoked and without warning, killing thousands of people doing nothing to them. The Japanese had the same undivided support to their Emperor as the North Koreans to Kim Jung Un; they would fight to the last man, women, and child and even commit mass suicide before coming face-to-face with an American Marine. A land invasion of Japan would have resulted in deaths of over a million people, military and civilian alike. Japan was not going to surrender without the use of force and instead of killing millions, we decided instead to utilize nuclear weaponry AFTER giving the people of Japan a warning beforehand
1927
« on: December 07, 2014, 10:20:19 PM »
1928
« on: December 07, 2014, 09:12:15 PM »
i havent see Slash or Demonic post in a while.
did they go tits up or what?
Slash is busy with his job and said he has lost interest with posting, Demonic's activity has been slowly dropping, but not sure why, he doesn't talk to us much.
He sells tobacco. How demanding is that?
1929
« on: December 07, 2014, 09:05:36 PM »
something something quran
"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).
It's almost like extremists shouldn't be considered examples of any religion or group.
They shouldn't; jihadists and far-righters alike. They both pervert the Word for their own dark, twisted ideas and for Satan himself
1930
« on: December 07, 2014, 08:13:58 PM »
Mustaches just scream 70s and PEDOPHILE
1931
« on: December 07, 2014, 08:12:53 PM »
Fallout 3 was better than New Vegas
Nintendo is HIGHLY irrelevant running on the same one-trick ponies
The whole PC scene is well over hyped
Halo Reach had a great multiplayer
AC3 isn't as bad people make it out to be
Skyrim was more enjoyable than Oblivion
Indie games will never be popular unless they get signed with a major pub.
Every dev should have one annual franchise
Indie genre is the hipster of the gaming world and means jackshit
World at War was the best CoD game
The whole BF 2142 is too damn overhyped
1932
« on: December 07, 2014, 08:05:29 PM »
There's this place called Chicken Spot nearby my house. I swear to god it is 10x better then any McDonalds or kfc I've ever had.
Where do you live? Because I've heard that before many times
I'm in Australia so unless you're here chances are it's probably a different place.
oh nvm
1933
« on: December 07, 2014, 08:03:36 PM »
There's this place called Chicken Spot nearby my house. I swear to god it is 10x better then any McDonalds or kfc I've ever had.
Where do you live? Because I've heard that before many times
1934
« on: December 07, 2014, 08:02:00 PM »
something something quran
"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).
1935
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:58:14 PM »
Didn't even bother checking the date today. Saw a flag at half-staff today and thought "huh, that's weird". Now it makes sense
japanese go to hell. pearl harbor worst day in america
People that died in Pearl Harbor - 3000
People that died in the Atomic bombings - 130,000
Japanese attacked America unprovoked and without any warning. We gave Japan plenty of warnings and let people know ahead of time. A land invasion would have dwarfed that of D-Day and at the end, would have left millions of Japanese citizens dead. It's well documented that on individual islands, the Japanese fought to the last man and at all costs, civilians included; there have been times they committed mass suicide
The war was going to end anyway with Russia and Britain about to invade Japan.
We didn't even need to invade Japan, they would have surrendered. Also Japan started the war with the United States because it was their only choice to continue building their country. The U.S cut off Japan's oil supply and Japan had no natural oil fields. They had no choice but to start a war for resources.
U.S cut off oil to Japan because the Japanese invasions of China, notably Manchuria, and the notorious "Rape of Nanking" where Imperial soldiers not only killed Chinese soldiers, but committed horrendous acts to women and children
Even before the embargo and invasions, detailed predictions were made by Gen. Mitchell that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor on a Sunday
The war would have not ended with an invasion. It would have, but after every single man, women, child died from suicide or fighting against allied forces. Millions would have died
So you're saying every citizen in Japan would commit suicide from an Allied invasion.
Even though that's exactly what we did when we occupied Japan which lasted for 7 years.
Yet there are still Japanese citizens.
The Japanese citizens were being manipulated and controlled just like North Koreans citizens are today. While the Tojo and the military were the ones pulling the strings, they utilized the Emperor as a puppet and sent everything that happened through him and to the public. If he told the citizens to fight, they would have fought; if he told the citizens to stand down, they would stand down. The eradication of Japanese military control over the government and the emperor allowed the people to finally see reason and realized they were being played. Because of that, they were grateful to us for saving them and welcomed us. We gave them technology and prosperity and they embraced it; very reason they are such a successful country today. If these Middle-Eastern countries were to follow the same path then things would be different
1936
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:54:30 PM »
I have this fucking amazing NY-style pizza place by my house ran by actual New Yorkers. Everything from the dough, sauce, cheese, and meat just tastes fresh and you know it's quality and homemade. They even fly in these deserts from New York
1937
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:52:11 PM »
Japanese attacked America unprovoked and without any warning
Umm...
Diplomatically, didn't we essentially slap them in the face beforehand for their Imperialism and barbarism in war? Didn't the Navy spot warning signs prior as well?
Gen. Mitchell of the Army Air Corp made startling accurate predictions from the locations, to a plan, even the day/time of attack. Everybody laughed at him and the Navy hated him. But December 7th, 1941 was the day he was proven right. His predictions were of course a decade before Japan invaded China
1938
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:50:30 PM »
Didn't even bother checking the date today. Saw a flag at half-staff today and thought "huh, that's weird". Now it makes sense
japanese go to hell. pearl harbor worst day in america
People that died in Pearl Harbor - 3000
People that died in the Atomic bombings - 130,000
Japanese attacked America unprovoked and without any warning. We gave Japan plenty of warnings and let people know ahead of time. A land invasion would have dwarfed that of D-Day and at the end, would have left millions of Japanese citizens dead. It's well documented that on individual islands, the Japanese fought to the last man and at all costs, civilians included; there have been times they committed mass suicide
The war was going to end anyway with Russia and Britain about to invade Japan.
We didn't even need to invade Japan, they would have surrendered. Also Japan started the war with the United States because it was their only choice to continue building their country. The U.S cut off Japan's oil supply and Japan had no natural oil fields. They had no choice but to start a war for resources.
U.S cut off oil to Japan because the Japanese invasions of China, notably Manchuria, and the notorious "Rape of Nanking" where Imperial soldiers not only killed Chinese soldiers, but committed horrendous acts to women and children Even before the embargo and invasions, detailed predictions were made by Gen. Mitchell that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor on a Sunday The war would have not ended with an invasion. It would have, but after every single man, women, child died from suicide or fighting against allied forces. Millions would have died
1939
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:36:12 PM »
Didn't even bother checking the date today. Saw a flag at half-staff today and thought "huh, that's weird". Now it makes sense
japanese go to hell. pearl harbor worst day in america
People that died in Pearl Harbor - 3000
People that died in the Atomic bombings - 130,000
Japanese attacked America unprovoked and without any warning. We gave Japan plenty of warnings and let people know ahead of time. A land invasion would have dwarfed that of D-Day and at the end, would have left millions of Japanese citizens dead. It's well documented that on individual islands, the Japanese fought to the last man and at all costs, civilians included; there have been times they committed mass suicide
1940
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:33:30 PM »
japanese go to hell. You know Japan is one of our best allies these days, right?
It's just the same joke others use
1941
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:30:49 PM »
Just leave him the fuck alone already. People get all bent out of shape when he blows up but it's 7/10 times the same people who egg him on in the first place. Damn childish
1942
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:28:51 PM »
Didn't even bother checking the date today. Saw a flag at half-staff today and thought "huh, that's weird". Now it makes sense
japanese go to hell. pearl harbor worst day in america
1944
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:02:08 PM »
What class?
1945
« on: December 07, 2014, 07:01:45 PM »
I recommend going back to Bungie. At least the mods aren't so lousy.
Ha
HAHAHAHAHA
Ehh, you got me. They are lousy, but I still never saw one get away with threats.
It's better than the community manager doing some hard-core victim blaming
What else should he have done? Charlie was the idiot that put his personal life out there, he should have contacted police if he received threats.
DeeJ should have given those people a nice, lengthy ban. Part of interacting with a community is to let people know about your personal life; that's how people establish friendships. He shouldn't be penalized for doing that
1946
« on: December 07, 2014, 06:57:51 PM »
I recommend going back to Bungie. At least the mods aren't so lousy.
Ha
HAHAHAHAHA
Ehh, you got me. They are lousy, but I still never saw one get away with threats.
It's better than the community manager doing some hard-core victim blaming
1947
« on: December 07, 2014, 06:55:53 PM »
I recommend going back to Bungie. At least the mods aren't so lousy. Ha HAHAHAHAHA
1948
« on: December 07, 2014, 06:54:33 PM »
inb4datsunconstitutional http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiiiAmendment XIII
Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. But they already pickup trash on the sides of the road. Wouldn't be opposed to them doing more work for the city, such as construction and maintenance
1949
« on: December 07, 2014, 06:52:13 PM »
lol wut
She's pretty hot though but those boots she wears are just fucking ugly
1950
« on: December 07, 2014, 06:50:52 PM »
Might as well post something, its the same one I showed TBlocks a couple of months ago.
Figured you'd be a bit......darker? lol
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