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« on: December 12, 2014, 01:26:45 PM »
But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase?
Having a 16-year-old point a rifle at police is fairly indicative of some sort of antisocial tendencies. I'm essentially the most serious authority on this site on the issue - as Mr. P will surely attest - since I know what it's like to think like him, and I've done my research.
There are ways of separating the wolves from the herd. We'll find out soon enough. The point, however, is that if he is indeed antisocial, then we cannot seriously say he knows right from wrong.
And I'm not denying your authority on the issue, I just don't see it as you do and see it all from a legal, non-medical perspective since that's what I'm good at. If he is shown to be a whacko then I will reside my current stance but will continue to hold it till then. But when you're acting an officer and grabbing his gun, as with Brown, then you're going to get shot; if you're pointing a rifle outside where bystanders can be possibly injured, then chances are you will be shot
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« on: December 12, 2014, 01:23:54 PM »
But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase?
We don't know either way, which is why it's worthwhile to actually find out before just gunning him down on sight.
Which brings to my point many responses back, what if he opened fire and a bystander in their house was struck? What if the pellet gun had been a real gun and a person was hit? The department would be held accountable. A situation where an armed person is outside in a populated area is different than a person in their home with nobody around. In certain situations, things have to be taken to action in a swift manner to prevent unnecessary collateral damage
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« on: December 12, 2014, 01:21:09 PM »
Know what the court will do? Laugh and say it doesn't matter what I feel, I've been told and it's written that committing certain acts is wrong
Which is why psychopathy isn't considered an illness with which one can be classed criminally insane.
Let me change tack and ask you a direct question: If you find a man who has murdered a woman "just to know what it felt like", and then further examination showed a tumor the size of a golf-ball in his prefrontal cortex, would you hold him seriously morally responsible?
Depends on what medical professionals determine. If the tumor was directly effecting him, then I'd still hold him responsible but to a lesser degree; he did commit a crime but wasn't all the way there. It's kinda like how you can still be charged with statutory rape, no manner how many forms of ID the chick pulls out saying she is of legal age
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« on: December 12, 2014, 01:17:16 PM »
You're not my parent or any authority figure
Which is exactly how a psychopath responds to pretty much anybody who isn't himself.
But how do you know for certain this person is a nutcase? If he is then I'll think differently on the whole thing, but as of now we're just delving into a discussion that doesn't relate to the kid's for certain condition. I'm just going to save everybody the time and stop debating the issue
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« on: December 12, 2014, 01:12:38 PM »
Kinder you are on a roll lately
When am I not?
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« on: December 12, 2014, 01:11:47 PM »
I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong. There doesn't need to be a whole complicated response that pointing a firearm at people is wrong; it's wrong, don't do it, simple as that.
You obviously don't get it. It's like telling an alcoholic to just stop drinking. Or telling somebody who's depressed to just cheer up. If this were ADHD, or some sort of minor impulse control disorder then I'd understand, but you seem to be completely missing the point that these emotional disconnections and brain abnormalities lead it to be one of the most difficult to treat disorders. It also doesn't help that most psychopaths are narcissistic.
It's like expecting Ted Bundy to listen to you when you give him a stern telling off.
I do get it. What I don't get is how you need emotions to listen to simple directions, if we're going with that then I will commit a crime and my plea would be I have no understanding why it was wrong. Know what the court will do? Laugh and say it doesn't matter what I feel, I've been told and it's written that committing certain acts is wrong
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« on: December 12, 2014, 01:09:41 PM »
I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong.
So, you stop doing things any time someone tells you it is wrong? Stop posted then, I declare it wrong.
You're not my parent or any authority figure, what you say has no legal effect and is just a simple opinion. Government says threatening is wrong, there doesn't need to be 52 page essay explaining why, simply don't do it
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:57:59 PM »
But they still know committing a felony is still wrong.
They may have been told it's wrong and be aware others see it's wrong, but since they lack emotions like empathy they're going to have a hard time understanding why it's wrong.
I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong. There doesn't need to be a whole complicated response that pointing a firearm at people is wrong; it's wrong, don't do it, simple as that. Plus you have to PROVE this person lacked is in fact ASPD or else, all of this talk is just speaking in a philosophical standpoint
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:52:05 PM »
Did they do it? Did the Democrats shut the government down?
No Kinder, the Democrats did not shut down the government. Passed the House 219-206, and passed the Senate last night.
Thank-God. That's probably enough to give em a chance in 2016
Way to ignore the rest of the post.
We discussed it earlier one in the thread. I respect your opinion, but I see things differently. Pretty obvious we will disagree with each other and it's pointless to keep bringing it up
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:49:19 PM »
but they don't have a care what if what they do is wrong
Which is exactly the point. People with ASPD literally lack the emotional connection necessary for moral motivation. It's not that they decide to be an immoralist cunt - they are literally incapable of properly perceiving the weights and scales involved in ethical conduct.
But they still know committing a felony is still wrong. This isn't some person doing an act because a elephant with spider legs and a top hat told him or his family would be killed and there's a major difference. On a side note, I'm pretty emotionally detached with many things
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:46:06 PM »
Did they do it? Did the Democrats shut the government down?
No Kinder, the Democrats did not shut down the government. Passed the House 219-206, and passed the Senate last night.
Thank-God. That's probably enough to give em a chance in 2016
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:40:53 PM »
Friendly reminder that ISIS wants to sell the decapitated body of Foley for a million dollars. fucking scum bags deserve the torture
Friendly reminder that we should not try to emulate ISIS in any way otherwise there's no point fighting them.
Friendly reminder that these shitheads are not innocent civilians, they have ruined thousands of lives and have declared open war on the west. If they're going to harm innocent people then we will beat the shot out of them to gather information about them to prevent more of their shit
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:38:21 PM »
fucking scum bags deserve the torture
Nobody deserves to be tortured. Torture should only ever be used if it has some sort of utility.
And the utility is Intel gathering
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:37:08 PM »
All they did was give him tests; doesn't mean he's ill. And because a person has a defect, that doesn't automatically mean they have no understanding of right and wrong. My brother is on the autism spectrum and knows pointing a gun is bad, same with many others
One day, you and I are going to have a nice long chat about antisocial personality disorder.
And people with it recognize right from wrong, but they don't have a care what if what they do is wrong
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:35:35 PM »
I wouldn't care if he was shot. Be an idiot then you get the idiot treatment
Please kinder, either wisen the fuck up or don't become a cop. I'm serious too.
So what if it was a real gun and the punk decided to fire at the residence of an individual? And where were his parents? They must be even more pathetic for not watching him
>punk
Yes, that's it. Blame the mentally ill! BLAME THEM KINDER, IT'S THEIR FAULT FOR BEING SINNERS.
All they did was give him tests; doesn't mean he's ill. And because a person has a defect, that doesn't automatically mean they have no understanding of right and wrong. My brother is on the autism spectrum and knows pointing a gun is bad, same with many others
Someone who walks down the street pointing a gun at the police is not right in the head, same as someone who walks into a school and starts shooting. The tests they are being given are to figure out what exactly is wrong with them so they can get treatment for it and return to normal.
And autism is not related to wandering down the street pointing guns are people, that's more the territory of clinical depression, schizophrenia, PTSD or a general term of being severely disturbed.
Aside from that, an anecdotal statement about your sibling doesn't necessarily apply to another human on the other side of the planet.
Just because somebody isn't doesn't mean they are paranoid-schizophrenics. A person with a disability can still understand right from wrong Good thing I mentioned others
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« on: December 12, 2014, 09:29:47 AM »
I wouldn't care if he was shot. Be an idiot then you get the idiot treatment
Please kinder, either wisen the fuck up or don't become a cop. I'm serious too.
So what if it was a real gun and the punk decided to fire at the residence of an individual? And where were his parents? They must be even more pathetic for not watching him
>punk
Yes, that's it. Blame the mentally ill! BLAME THEM KINDER, IT'S THEIR FAULT FOR BEING SINNERS.
All they did was give him tests; doesn't mean he's ill. And because a person has a defect, that doesn't automatically mean they have no understanding of right and wrong. My brother is on the autism spectrum and knows pointing a gun is bad, same with many others
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« on: December 12, 2014, 09:25:41 AM »
Friendly reminder that ISIS wants to sell the decapitated body of Foley for a million dollars. fucking scum bags deserve the torture
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« on: December 12, 2014, 09:21:29 AM »
Did they do it? Did the Democrats shut the government down?
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« on: December 12, 2014, 09:19:41 AM »
I wouldn't care if he was shot. Be an idiot then you get the idiot treatment
Please kinder, either wisen the fuck up or don't become a cop. I'm serious too.
So what if it was a real gun and the punk decided to fire at the residence of an individual? And where were his parents? They must be even more pathetic for not watching him
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« on: December 12, 2014, 07:18:19 AM »
Strong central government
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« on: December 12, 2014, 07:11:06 AM »
I wouldn't care if he was shot. Be an idiot then you get the idiot treatment
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:07:54 AM »
What are we supposed to be discussing here?
Discuss delicious Turkish food, I'll be getting some today.
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:07:37 AM »
Quality discussion
#Sarcasm
Well, I try to live up to the quality of discussion that I see. Shhh. Only Elegiac's Unlimited Power now.
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:03:23 AM »
ELEGIAC MADE ME DO IT
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« on: December 12, 2014, 12:02:02 AM »
1 day porno trial
I quit porn
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