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The Flood / Re: rate my headphone purchase
« on: December 12, 2014, 06:45:49 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Do you like Star Wars?
« on: December 12, 2014, 06:45:15 PM »
Star Wars was basically my childhood, and remains my favorite sci-fi universe. I fucking love it. I have spent countless hours reading up on Star Wars lore.
what lore
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Serious / Re: I finished my undergraduate degree in engineering today!
« on: December 12, 2014, 06:44:14 PM »
Should be in Flood.

OT: I start my undergraduate degree next Oct/Sept >.>

Four fucking years. At least one of them will be spent abroad, though.
You better visit me if you come to burgerland fig

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The Flood / Re: rate my headphone purchase
« on: December 12, 2014, 06:42:54 PM »
how mcuh pussy did you lick to buy that

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The Flood / Re: Meet the Psycho family
« on: December 12, 2014, 06:19:38 PM »
These are some of the most staged videos I've ever seen

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The Flood / Re: Do you find Christmas still relevant?
« on: December 12, 2014, 04:45:56 PM »
#24HoursofaChristmasStory
One movie that will never get old

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Serious / Re: Holy shit, Dick Cheney
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:54:18 PM »
Friendly reminder that ISIS wants to sell the decapitated body of Foley for a million dollars. fucking scum bags deserve the torture
Friendly reminder that we should not try to emulate ISIS in any way otherwise there's no point fighting them.
Friendly reminder that these shitheads are not innocent civilians, they have ruined thousands of lives and have declared open war on the west. If they're going to harm innocent people then we will beat the shot out of them to gather information about them to prevent more of their shit
Friendly reminder that all the torturing done has gathered barely any useful intel.

Better than none at all
No it isn't. Because had we not tortured at all, we would have been viewed very differently in the Middle East. Better relations means a stabler region.
Um what? The Middle East hates America for different reasons. The start was the removal of Iran's representative government under the Eisenhower era and installment of the Shah. Next we gave Jihad life, despite it being pretty much dead for centuries, due to the Soviets invading; the amount of resources we poured into Afghanistan then transferred to other groups that helped prop themselves up

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The Flood / Re: So, Sony is planning a Mario Brothers Movie
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:42:11 PM »
Meet the Spartans bad

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Serious / Re: Two things to understand about Eric Garner's death
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:37:59 PM »
Can I get a quick update on this? There's just so many cases of police abuse and people dying in contact with law enforcement in the US that I can't discern their names or cases anymore.

Believe me. Even those of us here can't keep up with the sheer number of cases.
Sheer number?

It's not like there's case after case after case; out of a million arrests in a year, only 400 result in the death of a suspect and that doesn't include that amount of justified cases. The stereotype that cops are trigger happy is grossly over played that it's mind boggling

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Serious / Re: Two things to understand about Eric Garner's death
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:35:03 PM »
I do not believe Eric Garner's death was racially motivated. I do, however, believe it was not justified and the officer should be prosecuted.

I do not believe Mike Brown's death was racially motivated. I do, however, believe the use of force was justified. I believe that racial profiling does occur often in police departments, but it is not institutionalized.

I am not sure whether Tamir Rice's death was racially motivated. I do believe use of force would have been justified had he been given time to react to the officers and still reached for the air gun. The footage, however, shows the police opening fire unreasonably quickly, which is not justified.
oops, didn't see "do not"

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The Flood / Re: If We Die Before We Wake
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:31:04 PM »
If you're gonna make a lyric thread, at least have the lyrics right.
Modified specially for the forum :^)

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The Flood / Re: If We Die Before We Wake
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:27:13 PM »
the only thing that can have my soul is a bonfire

Exit light
Enter night
Take my hand
We're off to never-never land


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The Flood / Re: If We Die Before We Wake
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:26:48 PM »
How about no.
Hush little baby don't say a word
And never mind that noise you heard


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The Flood / If We Die Before We Wake
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:25:16 PM »
Pray the Lord our souls to take

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Serious / Re: Two things to understand about Eric Garner's death
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:22:47 PM »
Can I get a quick update on this? There's just so many cases of police abuse and people dying in contact with law enforcement in the US that I can't discern their names or cases anymore.
The guy has a long previous record with arrests and jailtime. Police get a call from a store owner that this guy is selling untaxed cigarettes on the corner, costing the store owner money (pack is $17 in NY, which is fucking outrageous) so the police arrive. They talk to him and Garner resists by blocking the officer's hands which is a crime. Officer behind Garner attempts a seatbelt takedown. He's finally on the ground and starts saying he can't breath

Note Garner is about 6'5 and 300 pounds; big guy

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Serious / Re: Two things to understand about Eric Garner's death
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:19:56 PM »
I firmly believe in hierarchy, but that also confers responsibility.

Police officers who fuck up should absolutely be punished more heavily than citizens for crimes they commit, and sergeants more than constables.
Initially the police were doing everything fine, it was until he said he couldn't breath that things went overboard
You mean until the officer performed a restraining move banned by the NYPD.
Now that's a BIG misconception. New York bans chokeholds, what the officer was trying to do was perform a seat belt takedown where the arm goes around the chest like a seat-belt would. A chokehold is where the crevice/bending part of your arm goes directly in the front/middle of your throat; the video doesn't show a chokehold

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Serious / Re: Tamir Rice's death ruled a homicide
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:18:03 PM »
Next we wait for the court system to hear the case on the officer like reasonable people.
Next we wait for an arraignment, then a prelim. hearing, followed by a grand jury, and finally a trial. That is if everything checks out at each level for probable cause

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Serious / Re: Two things to understand about Eric Garner's death
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:15:35 PM »
I firmly believe in hierarchy, but that also confers responsibility.

Police officers who fuck up should absolutely be punished more heavily than citizens for crimes they commit, and sergeants more than constables.
Initially the police were doing everything fine, it was until he said he couldn't breath that things went overboard

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The Flood / Re: god certain ninjas are so fucking gay
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:10:22 PM »
But you're not a mod

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Serious / Two things to understand about Eric Garner's death
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:09:39 PM »
When you watch something and discuss it in detail in a classroom, you pick up things nobody elses notices and here's solid good two.

Ever catch the supervisor "in charge" of the whole scene? Well to put it straight, it was a black women; so why does this manner? Well for one, it refutes this entire incident as racially motivated as it can be seen clear as day that she was being as useless as the other officers, she wasn't contacting dispatch to coordinate with EMS arrival, she wasn't asking what was going on, and she wasn't addressing the large crowd gathering. Sergeants have many duties when on an active crime scene and she did not do a single thing and she needs to be the first to receive penalties

Another thing, how about that quality EMS service? No sirens, no ambulance on the street, seriously New York? Not only that, but the only thing this EMS does is check for a pulse and doesn't even have her medical bag. If people are going to be pissed off at the police, be equally pissed at the EMS. I know for sure that the block Garner died on, I'll be sure to not choke or need medical attention

YouTube

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Serious / Re: Tamir Rice's death ruled a homicide
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:00:59 PM »
The officer that fired shouldn't have been a cop

But I watched the video and the kid reached for his waistband

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Gaming / Re: New game hype?
« on: December 12, 2014, 02:14:56 PM »
Hardline
Battlefront
AC: Victory
Rainbow Six: Siege
The Division
Quantum Break
Human Element
Just Cause 3
Goat Simulator
Home Front: The Revolution

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Serious / Re: Why is fascist used as an insult?
« on: December 12, 2014, 01:58:02 PM »
First of all, none of them were actually communist. They were probably actually closer to fascism.

I think, however, fascism is a much greater insult for three very simple reasons. I) We've been to war with fascism. II) We associate fascism with Nazism. III) They're associated with monolithic, overbearing governments and fanatical racism.

When you look at things like Stalin's regime you see something somewhat ramshackle, less threatening and simply not as fanatical.
Which is why I mentioned under the name, just as how cartels operate under what appears to be legal businesses

All three of those can also be the same with IRL Communist regimes; we came close to all-out nuclear war with the Ruskies, fought Red Chinese in the Korean war, and most certainly conducted classified campaigns against Russia. While we only fought Germany for around 4 years, we were faced against Russia for nearly 40 years and the alliance in WWII was out of a simple necessity, not that we liked each other

Well Nazism itself isn't the issue, it was the killing of Jews. There were many Nazi officials that ignored orders relating to the persecution and detriment of Jews

As with all totalitarian governments, fascist and communist alike

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Serious / Why is fascist used as an insult?
« on: December 12, 2014, 01:44:59 PM »
T4R

Communist seems much more harsh. Under all the countries that used the term communist, an estimated 40 million under perished under the rule of Stalin. Millions more also died under the Chinese, Korean, and Cambodian Communist governments.

Far less people have died under fascist governments

It also bring about why we look at Nazi Germany so harshly yet never discuss the far greater atrocities committed by Stalin, but I presume because of the power of Jewish influence over the public and government

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The Flood / Re: Hi, from Elegiac
« on: December 12, 2014, 01:39:10 PM »
Nobody cares about him, stop posting shit for him.
He's a cool poster

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The Flood / Re: argument and personal attack thread
« on: December 12, 2014, 01:38:23 PM »
swagorilla

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Did they do it? Did the Democrats shut the government down?

 ::)

No Kinder, the Democrats did not shut down the government. Passed the House 219-206, and passed the Senate last night.
Thank-God. That's probably enough to give em a chance in 2016
How would that give republicans more of a chance in 2016?
That was directed to Democrats actually. With their big loss in this mid-term, they need all the help they can get to win the office again. Of course, Republicans have no strong candidates, nor do Democrats........well unless if Rand Paul does decide to run. But I imagine it to be another Bush/Obama Admin. again

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I get the whole lack of emotions, but they have been told what's right and what's wrong.

So, you stop doing things any time someone tells you it is wrong? Stop posted then, I declare it wrong.
You're not my parent or any authority figure, what you say has no legal effect and is just a simple opinion. Government says threatening is wrong, there doesn't need to be 52 page essay explaining why, simply don't do it

It's only wrong because the government says it wrong?

If we still had slaves, would it be okay because the government says it's okay?
This is where legal and moral ideas come in play. Morally, it would be wrong and I wouldn't own a slave; but it would be legally right. If you want to play that card, then read the 13th Amendment as it allows slavery, so long as a punishment for a crime

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