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Thanks for the responses guise

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I bet it sucks, just like your Mum does every night


I just got rekt

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I PM'd Cheat and he's cool with it. But there's no point so I was just wondering I people would be interested in me posting something short about a certain aspect or event or something in my SciFi universe every week. I just thought I'd do a poll because there wouldn't be any point if no one is interested.

Anyway, I just thought it would be a cool way to get some of my work out there.

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Oh, I had to do a lot of research on this for my own novel.

The US Marines are a rapid response force typically seen as more 'elite' and better trained (and that's not an unfounded idea). The army is a much less selective military branch, with a much higher passing rate. The American marines are typically used as shock forces (that is, the first ones on the frontline) while the army typically, though not always, arrives later. Soldiers are in the army; this might not be true in your story, but in real life you never refer to a marine as a soldier. The US Marines are primarily riflemen; every one of them is trained to use one, regardless of what their actual job is within their group. The army, on the other hand, tends to specialize their recruits to a specific task, though they all receive at least rudimentary training in infantry combat.

The marines in your story seem more like the British Royal Marines, though. American marines focus more on turning people into marines; the Royal Marines are much more exclusive in their pickings, much like in your story. You have to already be among the best and the toughest to join the Royal Marines. Unlike the US Marines, they are commandos, more akin to the Navy SEALs.

Both are considered underequipped and undermanned when compared to their respective armies. Neither has any combat medics, as they are all supplied by their respective navies.

Well the marines are seperated into some main groups; ExoWar, responsible for 0G ops and boarding/ defending capital ships, DPT soldiers (Drop Pod Troop) or colloquially knwon as Stormtroopers are much like ODST's, the CENTURION takes the best of the maries as the personal guard for the HVTs and the Sentinel program (temp nameuntil I think of a better one after realising the similarities to Halo) is robotic drones like Titanfall's spectres. Marines are more heavily armoured and heavily equipped, and trained in the use of all weapons as well as encouranged to create a custom loadout of weapons and armour upgrades to suit their preferences. In battle, they drop as a squad in a single pd or ship and take the fight as a shock force against the enemy before additional reinfocrements arrive.

The army is more standardised, having designated squad roles. They don't use power ssisted armour (They still have genetic upgrades though) and are a long occupant force for combat in seigeworks or other long operations. They also make more use of vehicles and artillery and also have another small branch for policing operations (The Colonial Police are a direct part of the military) alongside setting up bases for permanent defence. Both have their own dropships and helicopters, and the Air Force is relegated to mainly dogfights, escorts and bombing runs. there is a separate branch of Combat Aid including Resupply Corps, Medical Corps and Engineering corps which all aid in combat zones by brining ammo and supplies, medevac and vehcile repair, respectively. This services all branches of the military.

Overall, the rank system and roles of soldiers are both based off the royal army, marines, navy and air force, with the additonal branches of SpecWar and NonCom. The SAS/ SEAL type black ops stuff is done by the Dragonfires, a subbranch of Special Warfare.

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The Flood / Re: GOJI LIKES HALO 4
« on: December 03, 2014, 04:09:28 PM »
Well yeah. Halo 4 is a great game on the campaign side of things. One of the best in the series.

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Navy in space doesn't make any sense.  :-\
People see space more as an ocean, and groups of starships like modern fleets and carrier groups. Additionally, the Navy's secondary role for transport and sustainment  is given to these space navies. There's also the romanticisation of old sea captains and epic battles on the high seas (only this time in SPAAAAAAACE.)

At least, I think that's the most compelling reason for why it's always the Navy and not th Air Force.

That just baout covers it I'd say. I'd also say it comes from the likes of the Imperial Navy in star wars, when that sort of heavy scifi was only just in its early days and battles were more than likely inspired by ye olde pirate battles.

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The Flood / Re: GOJI LIKES HALO 4
« on: December 03, 2014, 03:20:53 PM »
I like Halo 3: ODST.

*zips up flame suit*

ODST was the only decent story bungie has done since Halo 2.

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The Flood / Re: This is my official resignation as a monitor
« on: December 03, 2014, 03:19:51 PM »
Fucking hell, you don't get a break.


G'luck. Will you be getting your friend to give us updates again?

I'm doing this myself. It's just me now. But, for reference, I have a rule in place. I'll tell it to you folks too.

The Six Month Rule as I call it. Not much can keep me from talking to friends. It would take either death, a coma, or something debilitating to stop me. If I'm ever in a coma or debilitated for six months beyond talking, well, I'm fucked anyway.

And being dead is being dead. So, if none of my friends have heard anything from me in six months or more, I'm dead.

It's a harsh sentiment. But I believe in truth. Absolute truth, no matter how bad it hurts, unchains you and frees you.

I would never wish to leave people behind wondering where the fuck I went or what happened. And in this way, those that care for me that can't directly look at my eyes and say hello, have some measure of peace, even if it hurts.


I can understand that. I just hope you can recover quick so you can help me with my work again :3

Spoiler
for  people who can't take a joke, that wasn't serious. M'kay?

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Gaming / Re: Your thoughts on "The Dark Below"?
« on: December 03, 2014, 03:18:17 PM »
I think that I refuse to support the franchise after the mess that was the 'game'.

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The Flood / Re: GOJI LIKES HALO 4
« on: December 03, 2014, 03:17:18 PM »
:P

Brings back memories of the #­gaming days. Interesting how Onyx, Chronarch, Anton, Grey, and the other lore giants all think positively of Halo 4, no?

>i dont get a mention


:c

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The Flood / Re: This is my official resignation as a monitor
« on: December 03, 2014, 03:07:59 PM »
Fucking hell, you don't get a break.


G'luck. Will you be getting your friend to give us updates again?

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Marines are tougher


Funnily enough, marines in my writing are. They are chosen from the best army soldiers and given advanced cybernetic/ genetic enhancements alongside much more powerful armour.

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The Flood / Re: Everyone should be gay
« on: December 03, 2014, 02:30:37 PM »
Children are annoying and drain all of your money.

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Well, just about every sci-fi universe has it's spaceships as navy rather than air force, even though the later seems to make more sense. Since we've got our big ass space ships under the naval department, it only makes sense that the dudes that ride around on them are marines.

Now, way back when, like, way fucking back when, like, when dragoons were still a thing outside of ceremony... marines were navy riflemen for boarding ships and raiding ports. Armies fought on the ground. In WWII, we see the US marine become an amphibious island hopping guy. The army also conducted numerous amphibious and airborne assaults in Europe. Now, in Afghanistan, marines walk around in a desert shooting brown people. Army soldiers do the same, but without the marine's douchey ego. In short: the Army calls the AF for A-10's for CAS when fighting hadjis while the Marine Corps calls up it's own outdated fleet of Harriers.

Well the main alien alliance has its large craft as an air force, another species has a space force as a new branch and one doesn't have either. It's fairly diverse, as I'm trying to keep variety. One of the species just has an armoured corps and an infantry corps.

But otherwise, my marine descritpion sounds a lot like the older role which i quite like, as opposed to the modern one :3

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From what I've seen, they both utilise both infantry and armoured support, both do a similar role aside from one generally operates from a ship. I want to try and apply this basic setup to my writing, but I'm a bit unsure as to what the difference is as both seem to do the same thing.

In my thing, the army is primarily a terrestrial fighting force that operates from established bases planetside and is the first line of defence in a ground invasion. Alternatively, the marines operate from an orbital station or ship and are primarily used in boarding and defence actions, as well as being deployed from an orbital cruiser in drop pods and aircraft. In invasions, the marines are used as a primary assault force to take ground, before the army is deployed to assist in combat operations and secure/ lck down an area with a clean sweep of enemy combatants. Ultimately, the army is generally made of local recruits and only receives basic genetic modifications and no power assisted armour, whereas the marines receive full armour and mods, and are selected from the very best soldiers.

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The Flood / Re: Because some people here know more about guns than me
« on: December 03, 2014, 12:10:14 PM »
Anyone else? Particularly, what would be a suitable size for a HMG/ Sniper rifle, considering that I have a .50 Cal Assault Rifle selection. I was thinking that the larger guns would be going for a 15x99 round instead of a 12x99.
This is a 20×109 mm anti-materiel rifle.

Here's the cartridge for scale.


I'm going with a .44 magnum round (IE Desert Eagles for a standard pistol) for small guns and the 12x43 for medium guns. The difference between the 43 and the 99 is basically for barrel length as battle rifles vs. sniper rifles.

There's also a seperate armoury of 556 and 762's for nonaugmented soldiers, that are used by militias.

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The Flood / Re: Because some people here know more about guns than me
« on: December 03, 2014, 09:18:05 AM »
Anyone else? Particularly, what would be a suitable size for a HMG/ Sniper rifle, considering that I have a .50 Cal Assault Rifle selection. I was thinking that the larger guns would be going for a 15x99 round instead of a 12x99.

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Gaming / Re: Next AC game is set in London.
« on: December 03, 2014, 02:24:07 AM »
Jesus it's getting worse than CoD.

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The Flood / Re: Greetings, Reclaimers
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:55:06 AM »
Now all we need is a Wheatley alt and we have the trio done.

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The Flood / Re: Greetings, Reclaimers
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:54:32 AM »
Hello fellow Guardian
Have you decided to go with the light? A Guardian without light is like a an ocean without water.


We're you just bored or something in destiny? I can fully sympathise with that.

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The Flood / Re: Greetings, Reclaimers
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:48:24 AM »
So have you completes your quest after hijacking the UNSC Rubicon at the remains of Installation 00 in 2559?
I wonder if whoever made this alt understands any of that haha

I'm going to link this on archive. If Chronarch gets here, this will be interesting.

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The Flood / Re: Greetings, Reclaimers
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:44:37 AM »
So have you completes your quest after hijacking the UNSC Rubicon at the remains of Installation 00 in 2559?

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The Flood / Re: Is there anyone further ahead in time than me here?
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:39:49 AM »
7:39


u fookin wot

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The Flood / Re: Because some people here know more about guns than me
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:33:08 AM »
I came in here because I know a fair bit about guns, but then you started talking about something completely different than what I know about.
Pretty much this...

Is he RPing or something?
He is creating a sci-fi universe for a story he is writing.
Huh.

To the OP: 8x69mm for an SMG is not very believable.

Additionally, both the AR and Sniper are using what is essentially a .50cal slug (the only difference between the two you mentioned are the cartridge length) which is pretty fucking ridiculous.
If they're decked out in some big kick ass armor, then it's believable. It is a Sci-Fi universe. And in WH40k Space Marines use 19.05mm projectiles for their standard rifles.
Yeah, but nothing in 40k is supposed to be practical or even remotely believable.
I can dream, okay?
Actually this would cut down on recoil as the round picks up speed as it travels and doesn't have to have all it's energy imparted to it instantaneously. Potentially allowing an unassisted man to fire larger rounds. Design was found lacking but who knows, future developments could see a reevaluation. Definitely not for close quarters though.

But face it, at this point we're just talking about babyrockets, why not go balls deep and hand the dudes full auto rpgs.


The rocket launchers are designed to take down tanks with self repairing armour. And are very bulky.

The EXPL rounds are laced with nano-explosives (Nanotechnology is an excuse for me to do cool shit used a lot by humans to make stuff like self repairing armour, the aforementioned nano explosives and even some experiments as to a swarm weapon of millions of nanos. This technology is common and used extensively to also increase efficiency of organs and do all kinda of crazy SPARTAN style shit.

Tl;dr the bullets are just as accurate as cluster bombs as their regular counterpart.

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The Flood / Re: Because some people here know more about guns than me
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:18:56 AM »
I suppose he could pull a 40k and have the mag fit and feed in front of the trigger guard, that would be unwieldy as fuck.


Most of te weapons have a top-loaded magazine, and rails (like the M4/ M16) to mount scopes and sights. Others are bullpup so it doesn't matter too much. The pistols have a top mounted magazine of 5 rounds and an attachment that allows sights to be places at a 45 degree angle (Think of Battlefield 4 Canted Iron Sights mod. I don't know if that's a real thing but its a good idea of what I'm talking about.)

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The Flood / Re: Because some people here know more about guns than me
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:15:40 AM »
I came in here because I know a fair bit about guns, but then you started talking about something completely different than what I know about.
Pretty much this...

Is he RPing or something?
He is creating a sci-fi universe for a story he is writing.
Huh.

To the OP: 8x69mm for an SMG is not very believable.

Additionally, both the AR and Sniper are using what is essentially a .50cal slug (the only difference between the two you mentioned are the cartridge length) which is pretty fucking ridiculous.
If they're decked out in some big kick ass armor, then it's believable. It is a Sci-Fi universe. And in WH40k Space Marines use 19.05mm projectiles for their standard rifles.
if his standard soldiers are decked out in power armor a really fucking huge cartridge could work, but otherwise nope.
They'd still have to have super long fingers/palms to brandish such a monstrosity. And if you're in power armor, why the hell are you using a pistol?
I was mainly talking about service rifles. I don't think that tiny bore diameter on the handgun justifies the crazy cartridge length. Unless of course you want some insane ballistics.
No offense to the OP but these cartridge specifications are clearly the work of someone who doesn't understand how guns work that well.


None taken. I k ow the basics if a gas operated weapon, but that's it. Though I'm taking into account suspension of disbelief due to the super cool armour they have.

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The Flood / Re: Because some people here know more about guns than me
« on: December 03, 2014, 01:13:57 AM »
>AR's firing 50AE

Jesus, that must destroy your shoulder.
What kind of hand gun shoots a 69 mm cartridge?
Oh yeah...
OP, why is your pistol ammo longer than your rifle purposed rounds?

That one is a good point.


I should probably add in that the armour and cybernetic upgrades recurred by soldiers mean that they can use these kinds of weapons without much problem. The militia faction still uses modern conventional ammo types because they cannot.

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The Flood / Because some people here know more about guns than me
« on: December 02, 2014, 05:30:56 PM »
Just need help with something.

In my universe the classification for ammo (ballistics) is as follows;

SMG/ pistol - 8.00x69 round

AR, BR, DMR, Carbine- 12.7x33 round

Snipers, DMR, LMG, HMG- 12.7x99 round (As I understand, this is close enough a .50 round)


Anyway, I know that a 7.62/5.56 is a large/ small rifle round (respectively) and that for a pistol to fire a 8.00 round it must be far bigger. In my futuristic timeline, guns and caliber are up scaled to counter thicker armour and shields (Energy weapons and mass drivers exist, just that they're highly prohibited and expensive compared to the abundance, easy to make and cheap ballistics) so that they're more effective. Do these seem decent as rounds for the various guns?


If it helps, I have a specialised pistol that fires a .50 round and a round that is fitted with dozens of nano explosives. Standard 5.56 and 7.62 rounds are used by police forces and are te types available to civilians, though the Nanoplaye and Arvaplate armour in use by the military is more or less immune to this kind of caliber.

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Gaming / Re: Worst Publisher of 2014
« on: December 02, 2014, 03:40:49 PM »
Asassins creed isn't good in general. BF is onli passable because no one else makes pirate games.
>BaconShelf

>gatsby
It's ok to say you don't like it but other than 3 the AC series is great.

I have attempted to play them many times but just can't get into them. I do think the series is turning into the CoD syndrome of playing it safe, and I'm dissapointed they didn't make another idea as ambitious as boat combat.

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The Flood / Re: Did you know?
« on: December 02, 2014, 03:38:57 PM »
google chrome offered to translate this page for me. Fucking lol.


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