We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

He's the real mvp

I trusted you!

Bong bing boop

K

Some people are beyond our help

Good for him, stop hating on someone who is much more successful and contributes more than you ever will to society.

Fraud

I heard military phony commies eat there. I ain't no commie son

Sandtrap why are you always in some kind of danger?

He's a danger magnet.

You don't want encouragement so I'll just say it like it is, that fucking sucks.

Ha I get it.

I agree. I think we should let them in but people need to come in legally or not at all

Quote from: Hawk on November 18, 2014, 08:27:19 PM

I'm in jersey, haven't gotten any yet. Hope we get some soon =D

EDIT: Actually, maybe till after Saturday hopefully...

I'm in Jersey too.

So am I, no snow

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 09:23:43 AM

Quote from: challengerX on November 19, 2014, 07:21:14 AM

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 06:10:32 AM

Of course, one day you'll get con'd and you'll just let it slide because "it's not a big deal"

No, I'd be pissed. I'd confront the guy and settle it.

The point is, technically, he didn't steal anything. People bought him food. If I were dressed as Pikachu and people bought me food, why the hell should I go to jail just because these people willingly bought me food because they love Pokemon? What have I done wrong? Nothing.

He did do something wrong morally. But not illegal.

I get what you are saying but dressing as military and accepting free meals is different. When you are dressing up as pikachu you aren't acting like you are an actual pokemon, and people aren't giving you money because they think you are actually a pokemon. They are giving you stuff or taking pictures because they think the pretend costume is cool. This guy only got money by tricking others into thinking he was a legitimate military person.

Anyway like I said, he shouldn't go to jail. But there obviously has to be some kind of fine or action against fraud like this.

I can agree with a fine. Because it's kind of like impersonating a police officer or federal agent.

But jail time is overkill.

Yeah a few meals doesn't equal jail.

I'm just saying, people are letting the military respect argument get in the way. Half the thread is unnecessary. This is just a simply case of fraud, or a simple con. Not that controversial.

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 07:10:49 AM

Quote from: Byrne on November 19, 2014, 06:36:41 AM

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 06:10:32 AM

So because Americans put their armed forces on an unnecessarily high pedestal, anyone wearing clothes of the military while not being part of it should be prosecuted?

He may have not said anything, but it's no fault of his that ignorant people didn't ask questions or use common sense before jumping the gun on "muh patriotism".

All the guy did was be a bit of an asshole.
Nothing more.

If you want to jail people for being assholes...

Completely irrelevant and missing the entire point. The justice system is supposed to protect those "idiots" who fall for this stuff. Obviously you have responsibility not to fall for things like fake uniforms, but when someone is caught out smarting "dumb patriotic Americans" you don't give them a pat on the back and say "good job just don't do it again". I'm not saying jail him for 60 years here, I'm just saying it's a punishable offense and he should be fined at the least.

I don't care about you guys mocking American Patriotism, I think it's over the top as well. Especially seeing how people fell for this trick. But don't connect stabs at military respect with allowing con men to get away.

No one's saying he should get a pat on the back, we're saying he shouldn't be punished.

Alright remove the uniform.

If someone tricked you out of your money would you be angry?

Quote from: Statefarm on November 19, 2014, 06:10:32 AM

So because Americans put their armed forces on an unnecessarily high pedestal, anyone wearing clothes of the military while not being part of it should be prosecuted?

He may have not said anything, but it's no fault of his that ignorant people didn't ask questions or use common sense before jumping the gun on "muh patriotism".

All the guy did was be a bit of an asshole.
Nothing more.

If you want to jail people for being assholes...

Completely irrelevant and missing the entire point. The justice system is supposed to protect those "idiots" who fall for this stuff. Obviously you have responsibility not to fall for things like fake uniforms, but when someone is caught out smarting "dumb patriotic Americans" you don't give them a pat on the back and say "good job just don't do it again". I'm not saying jail him for 60 years here, I'm just saying it's a punishable offense and he should be fined at the least.

I don't care about you guys mocking American Patriotism, I think it's over the top as well. Especially seeing how people fell for this trick. But don't connect stabs at military respect with allowing con men to get away.