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9481
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:43:51 PM »
i hadn't played tetris in so long, tho, holy cow.
fun as hell game. i remember playing it on my gameboy all the time.
9482
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:43:07 PM »
That's what I think. hm thanks for giving me something to think on.
9483
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:42:42 PM »
What the fuck are you autists arguing about
we're not even arguing i'm asking questions and getting answers
9484
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:41:59 PM »
Obviously, but that's my problem with it. Since the randomness is tied into the game, that's what makes the game itself imperfect. Just because the randomness is integral to the experience doesn't make the experience perfect--Perfect experiences involve no randomness.
Ideally, games should be focused around your own skill and wits alone. That said, I think Chess is a better example of a more perfect game.
when i say "perfect", i mean, "perfectly made" no game could ever be perfection, obviously. it's too subjective.
9485
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:40:55 PM »
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9486
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:30:17 PM »
what rng? the fact that they're randomised?
you realise the game couldn't function without that, right?
that's what's perfect about tetris -- every single facet of the game is integral to the experience. you cannot remove one piece from the game without ruining it.
ot: but let's see what i can do here
9487
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:27:22 PM »
But I think once you recognize that we will never fully grasp the truth about the universe, there is nothing that should impel you to think about the universe in one way or another other than your own interpretations. That's all I can really say.
and by this you mean there's no reason to be religious right
9488
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:02:23 PM »
Yes; I just don't.
tell me the secret, then. how do i do it. no sarcasm here -- i need to know
9489
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:57:01 PM »
let me ask you this, verb
are you capable of believing Christianity's God exists
9490
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:50:30 PM »
That's not really what a wager is, but whatever. Wagers are more akin to agnosticism--but most people who identify as Christians, you'll find, are not agnostic. They claim to know for certain that there is a god. putting all your eggs in the Christianity basket even though there's no evidence to support what it claims to be on the chance that that god exists seems like a wager to me which is obviously not something people who rely on the faith argument are going to admit, but... We live in a deterministic universe, so yeah. But the deterministic nature of the universe doesn't have any bearing on our ability to make what we perceive as choices. We choose everything and nothing all at once.
i don't see how you can consider religious belief as a choice that we perceive to have control over, then
9491
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:44:09 PM »
good for you
9492
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:37:44 PM »
i never chose to have these standards, though. i'd give them up if i could. So why can't you?
Because you view it as the only option?
i don't know. i just can't bring myself to believe things that i'd have to to be religious. i can maybe say i do -- but in my mind, i just don't. and if a god did exist, he'd know my mind. It's not, though. I'm not even sure how you'd arrive at that conclusion. belief = conclusions with evidence faith = conclusions without evidence you're betting that god exists without evidence. a wager. Your "biology/psychology" (I'd just call this your brain) chooses everything. That's all you are, is a brain.
Your brain makes decisions consciously, subconsciously, and unconsciously. There is no "you"--we're just brains.
so then, again, it's not a choice. there are no choices.
9493
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:24:31 PM »
You choose to have those standards of evidence--Christians choose to have faith. You can also choose to have treat God as an exception to the rule--but I wouldn't really see the point in that. i never chose to have these standards, though. i'd give them up if i could. You either choose to have faith, or you don't. this seems an awful lot like a wager to me Just because it's not necessarily a consciously made decision doesn't make it any less of a decision.
...what's the point of making that distinction if someone isn't consciously making a decision, i'd hardly call it a decision. their biology/psychology chose for them.
9494
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:19:57 PM »
Yeah sorry, I wasn't really helping you at all with decision-making, huh?
no, but you're pretty much the first (presumably) atheist person i've bounced my thoughts off of good to know i'm not as crazy as i thought
9495
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:19:13 PM »
tetris is the only perfect game
9496
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:17:54 PM »
I mean, if you're gonna fuck around with religion, at least look into Buddhism or something...
religious buddhism is not my thing
9497
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:17:12 PM »
Can't become Christian then, I guess. yeah that's where i'm currently at. If I may ask, what's the reason you want to become Christian?
it's kind of a long story, but to summarise, social and mental health benefit
9498
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:12:24 PM »
Therefore, you can choose to believe anything you want, whether it's accurate and inaccurate--and nobody will epistemically be able to tell you otherwise.
i'm not capable of believing that the christian god exists under my current standards of evidence. it's not a choice. i have every reason to be religious, i'm just... not able to be. i hope i'm making sense, this is all really fresh to me and i haven't put as much time into it as i'd like to.
9499
« on: February 12, 2016, 07:05:43 PM »
Yes.
As it is stated in the Bible - and the Bible is absolute since it's God's word. It's circular logic and you'll just have to accept it, which will be the most difficult thing for you to do. and what if i'm incapable of doing that what then
9500
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:59:59 PM »
philosophy should be taught as a compulsory course in school tbh
Nah, I had more important things to learn than the ramblings of senile syphilitic men... like how to lay out a rafter or frame a stairwell.
why can't you do both? critical thought emphasised by the study of philosophy is more important than... virtually anything else you could possibly learn in the first 12 years of school
9501
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:58:46 PM »
No, they believe in a higher power based on their faith alone. You mentioned how belief isn't arbitrary, and that it's based on your personal standards of evidence--but one's "personal" standards of evidence are, by definition, arbitrary. Because there is only one objective standard of evidence--it's not a matter of personal whim. and what if one's personal standard of evidence is that of the "one objective standard" you speak of? at that point belief is no longer a choice and even if it wasn't, i still don't think people choose their standards of evidence.
9502
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:55:06 PM »
Yeah, that standard of evidence for Christianity is God - it's unarguable and absolute. what about "God" is inarguable and absolute? that he exists?
9503
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:51:30 PM »
That's the point of religion. It's based entirely on "faith". then no one who is religious believes that God exists? they just "wager" that he does?
9504
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:50:34 PM »
philosophy should be taught as a compulsory course in school tbh
9505
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:45:43 PM »
what
you can't just "believe" something arbitrarily, it has to meet your standards of evidence
9506
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:44:27 PM »
nice, dude
don't worry, you didn't miss much on the project day. we watched deadpool but it blew chunks so you kinda dodged a bullet on that one
9507
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:36:21 PM »
Wait really? Yeah, I've been struggling with it for a long time.
9508
« on: February 12, 2016, 06:35:47 PM »
It's easy, you believe in nonsense. Belief is not a choice. It's impossible to just 'believe' something.
9509
« on: February 12, 2016, 02:20:41 PM »
Fuck. You had potential but you dun goofed hard with this addition. I can empathise with you slightly on CB2 however.
Only slightly. Not my fault there are only a handful of good video games in existence.
9510
« on: February 12, 2016, 02:09:23 PM »
Gonna need a longer list than that to judge you properly. Tetris. Super Smash Brothers Melee. Crash Bandicoot 2.
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