Notice how my only reason to get married basically requires you to be a piece of shit human being.

Human beings are shit, this is no surprise to anyone.

So I mean, I don't see a great reason to be acting pious about who you have sex with, and under what conditions.

The goal is to fight promiscuity, something I assumed you would be on-board for.

It's all terrible, and no--nothing is really all that more or less terrible than anything else. It's just all equally terrible.

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But why is premarital sex bad?

Well, if you're looking for a secular answer, I can't give you one. From a non-theist's perspective, nothing that two consenting adults do to each other could ever be "wrong". Inadvisable and stupid, sure (which I will argue it is, theist or not). But I don't have any reason to say it's wrong other than that my religious beliefs dictate such.

Surely there are other ways of showing your dedication to your partner.

It just seems intuitive to me that the sexually promiscuous prior to marriage (which, let's face it, virtually all people today are) tend to end their marriages prematurely in divorce. There's no incentive to stick with your partner. It's no longer about being "in it together" with them, and divorce has become an excuse to be emotionally immature and lazy towards your partner. Yeah, marriages are hard work. Waiting until marriage demonstrates that you both take the responsibility seriously.

I mean, if you can find some other way to demonstrate that, by all means do it. But be honest with yourself. Don't just tell yourself you'll "find another way" so you can satisfy your animalistic tendencies.

Some people just don't see waiting as a necessary gesture to show love so why would they be wrong

It's less about showing love and more about forging a lasting bond with another human being that transcends the natural (sinful) sexual urges we deal with on a daily basis. Committing yourself to an ideal as difficult to uphold as abstinence is quite the gesture in seriousness.

Well, I'm not a retard, so I'm aware that same-sex couples are not better nor worse parents than hetero couples.

The lack of one parental figure (be it the mother figure in male homosexuality, and father figure in female homosexuality) is what I'm concerned with. Does this actually have any impact on how the child will grow up?

This Chad guy sounds like the real juice in this berg.

A good home is a good home, whether it's a single parent, two parents, amalgamated, typical adoption or same sex adoption.

I think in terms of the difficulties kids might face from having homosexual (adoptive or IVF) parents are going to decrease fairly soon, if not already. Society is already generally accepting of it, although the SJW lynchmobs on people who aren't all that open minded are the most surefire way to entrench bigotry. Kids are probably always going to use Gay and derivatives as playground insults, because kids are bastards. If there is anything remotely different about a kid and he isn't high on the pecking order? Boom, made fun of.

As long as the potential homes are put to the same criteria as hetero households, there shouldn't be any issue.

And as a general view, there are a fucktonne of orphans/children in care and a load of normal families who are quite happy to shit out another round of child benefits delightful children rather than take in someone else's genes, so if people who aren't so able to pass on their legacy feel like looking after someone else's kids and giving them a loving home - why on earth would that be a problem?

Give me a bit to respond. I don't necessarily disagree, I'm just on mobile.

Sex is really good though. Can't really deny that fact.

Define "good".

I think it's more of an issue of same-sex relationships having more trouble staying together than how same sex parents actually interact with the child.

How come? Is it just statistically speaking that homosexual relationships end in speraration more often than not?

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I used to think lowly of people that had a lot of it.

As you should. There's nothing glamourous about being a slut.

It's not slutty if it's with the same person though. That's a healthy sex life.

Absolutely. Promiscuity is the enemy, not the physical devotion to your wife.

I used to think lowly of people that had a lot of it.

As you should. There's nothing glamourous about being a slut.

In doing so, you end up looking at history as "thousands of years of asshole shit followed by like 100 or so years of not so terrible shit".

That's pretty accurate, though.

I'm torn and wanted to hear some other thoughts on it.

This would be equivalent to a question asking Democrats what they intend to do about government taking prayer out of the classroom.

How do you figure?

MW2.

True, I dunno though. I'm starting to get doubt about drawing. I'm starting to just doubt the entire idea. In general it seems silly and over complicated, I don't like looking like a try hard in anything.

Ultimately it's your call but I've always found the drawing thing to be a good play with girls. That may just be me, though.

Worst Oscars yet performance wise though. You'd think it was fucking Yu-Gi-Oh with the amount of race cards pulled.

Lmao