If we could truly comprehend and quantify God, there would be no need to treat Him as God.

Why, exactly?


Side note, since I'm already talking to you. I read that PDF you sent me. Kierkegaard literally said the same thing I was saying to my friends today -- that the idea that God is not memetic, and revelation can only come from inside one's self rather than through communal service or something. It was really quite special to have thoughts that I came to on my own be expressed so eloquently by a man who lived over 200 years ago. Haven't felt that way about too many people, I must say.

I mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.

No, of course I don't think that.

I probably shouldn't be having this conversation with you, anyway.

You're a Christian who doesn't believe in God? What.

Correct. I think the Bible makes a lot of pragmatic sense, and from a social perspective, I get more out of being theistic than I do being atheistic.

My problem right now is that I can't believe in the superstitious parts of the bible while remaining intellectually honest with myself.

Yep. How often do you hear about someone who was raised in a non-religious house becoming religious later in life?

Me, though admittedly, I wouldn't really say I buy into it for theistic reasons just yet.

Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 04:51:51 PM

have you seen the seventh seal

Can't say I have. Is it any good?

Well aren't you from Quebec?

Fuck, no. I only wish I was.

I imagine cuddling is all the proof I'll need that God exists, tbh fam.

I spy with my little eye zero evidence to support your claims.

What sort of "evidence" would you like me to find for you that isn't of my own mind regarding the negative value assignment of life and the religious imperative? I will find evidence to support my emotional bonds bit, as I know it exists, but I've done a fairly good job thus far explaining the gist of it all. God forbid I don't know something.

Also, it's possible to have sex without creating a child. I have yet to have any children.

0 risk > a little risk

That's my point.

I lost my virginity to a girl I loved very much and it was a wonderful experience, but it didn't save our relationship.

Sex is not meant to save your relationship. Imagine if you had waited until you met your wife to have sex, what kind of an emotional journey that would be. Discovering each other's kinks and what not. I don't know what sexually active people do, I can only speculate.

Aaaannnnnnd if this is about religion than that's your choice and I have no comment on it either way.

It's only partially about that, and I try not to harp on it because I know I'll gain no traction using that as a basis. I was like this before I became theistic.

oh my god he's trying to be like verb

it's adorable

Verb's going to be pissed if you guys keep making comparisons. He doesn't want to associate with my filthy, theistic mentality.

That's a load of bullshit and you know it.

No, it isn't, and no, I don't.

ok, verbatim.

Solid response.

but IRL that's a terrible mentality

like, blatantly terrible

I fail to see how.

It can last just as long having sex as not having sex. The best way to achieve a relationship lasting a long time is about listening, honesty, and excitement, not abstaining from having sex.

Those certainly have something to do with it, but ultimately, there are far too many demonstrable benefits that abstaining from sex until marriage provides for me to care for your sexually-fueled perspective.

Yeah, and KKK members can say whatever the fuck they want to about black people. Doesn't make it any less ignorant or narrow-minded.

I'm not narrow-minded, I'm capable of understanding other mindsets -- I just think they're all bullshit except mine.

That's a relationship you value more than your sexual cravings.

If you truly valued the relationship, you would want it to last as long as possible. The best way to achieve this is to encourage both parties to wait until marriage to ensure that both people take the commitment seriously.