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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:25:44 PM »
Someone who has never heard of Batman could go in, watch the movie, and have just as valid of an opinion as you.

Do you understand why I even included the "DC shill" part? It was to demonstrate that I'm biased towards the movie, and I still think it was shit. Someone who doesn't give a shit about DC? I can see them disliking the movie even more than me, because they don't have emotional ties to the two main fucking characters.

You need to fuck off. I'm trying to have an actual conversation here.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:23:38 PM »
I can not comment on CA2 or DP in how they treat guards though as I had not seen either and I'm pretty used to those types of characters doing that since I got enough of it in Star Wars, maybe Disney just puts more resources/effort into what goes on in the background but it seems like a money sink because that's not what you're supposed to be focused on.

First of all,

*ahem*
GO SEE THE WINTER SOLDIER RIGHT NOW PLS

Second of all, I think Deadpool has some pretty iffy moments with stuff in the background, but definitely not TWS. And even the worse offenses in Deadpool don't really approach BvS.

And even if they did, just because it's "common place" to not give a shit about small details like that doesn't really excuse the fact that the movie is still worse for it.

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And I get you on Luthor, I really do. If they had kept ripped body builder Luthor I would've been ecstatic, but I guess I'm just more open to a new take on Luthor than most comic fans are considering how iconic he is to Superman.


I'm open to new interpretations too, but not when they're worse than the tried-and-true versions everyone is familiar with. Being different for the sake of being different? Nah. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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But I feel like if they had cast Luthor a more appropriate way, it would've squandered him more since Luthor was mostly just the guy setting up the events, not necessarily partaking in them.

That's another issue with the movie altogether.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:15:24 PM »
The movie was a solid 8/10

Like...

how can people say this?

An 8? You don't think you're being a bit generous?

I mean, I know everyone's entitled to their opinion, but... you must have really low standards. I'm a full-blown DC shill, with a bit of a Superman fanboy on the side, and I can't give this thing anything more than a 6.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:13:09 PM »
Most of those overly-dramatic comments are made by Luthor and he was purposefully doing it to show how deranged Lex really is, otherwise we'd just think he's only a little eccentric instead of being a legitimate madman.

Oh, I know that. But I'm criticising the decision to make him like that. The character direction for Lex Luthor is so different, so jarring... I absolutely hate it. Jesse did good with what he had but I'm not a fan of the direction Zack took in the first place.

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As for the small mistakes, there was plenty of moments of idle guards in Nolan's trilogy, TDKR being the worst offender. The grenade? Maybe you're right but I didn't really think much about it until you brought it up.

Well, The Dark Knight trilogy wasn't that good [as a superhero trilogy] in the first place. But that's a different conversation; the point is, one movie doing something stupid doesn't absolve another of making the same mistake.

I don't know, maybe I've just been spoiled with how good the action sequences were in The Winter Soldier and Deadpool.

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Sorry, but I really didn't see this. The ankle thing may have seemed over done, but considering how much of an edge Batman had over Superman when he was weak, just about anything Batman did may have come off that way. Also Batman was training some pretty crazy stuff right before his fight, I wouldn't put it past him to be able to fling a crate like that (especially if we don't even know if it's crazy heavy or not).

Go see it again and tell me it doesn't look fake as shit. I've unfortunately seen the movie thrice, and I just couldn't contain my disbelief. Moreso at the ankle thing, but the crate moment is still pretty ridiculous.

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Esienberg/Luthor didn't actually bother me as much as I thought.

Are you honestly telling me you wouldn't prefer an "All-Star Superman" version of Luthor over Eisenberg's version? Come. On. He's almost objectively worse.

I mean, I don't want to be insulting but that's just... how well-versed are you in DC comics?

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:02:29 PM »
5/10 is what I'd give it. Man of Steel was a 7/10, Avengers: Age of Ultron was an 8. For reference.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:01:30 PM »
Says the person who freaked out over Metal Gear spoilers and is now freaking out over Batman

lol alright buddy

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 06:57:53 PM »
I obviously think my tastes are good, so by extension, anyone who doesn't share them has bad taste. This goes for everyone, ever.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 06:56:44 PM »
Thanks for literally admitting that "different" and "worse" are the same in your book.

Oh my god you're such a child.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 06:51:45 PM »
It physically hurts me to say that this movie blows ass. I wish it didn't.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 06:50:42 PM »
Or this crazy new thing called "different taste".

"Different"... "worse"... who gives a shit? You're always trying to shut down conversation.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 06:49:02 PM »
What was ass about it? And God help you if one of the things you say is having the appearances of the other heroes in there.

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I don't actually mind the inclusion of the other heroes, actually. But...

Pacing was worse than Man of Steel, dialogue was garbage ("Your Doomsday." "The red capes are coming." "Son of Krypton versus Bat of Gotham!" "Save... Martha..."), casting was god-awful (Ben is the saving grace, here. Seriously the best part of the movie is him). Action scenes were visually impressive but they're often ruined by small, stupid mistakes that any other director could and easily would change. For example, in the Knightmare sequence, the fight was, on the surface, awesome! But then you see multiple Supermax guards in the background literally just standing there until Snyder told them it was their turn to attack Bats. Or in the warehouse when he's going to save Martha, instead of shooting him out-right, the thug just pulls out a fucking frag grenade so that Zack has an excuse to include an awesome explosion in the background.

The special effects at times were just so poorly done, they actually reminded me vaguely of Batman and Robin. When Bats begins to swing Superman around in the port from the ankle? That was the faking shit I've ever seen in my life. Or when Batman yanks the crate above his head, even though that's physically impossible, during the warehouse fight. Just absolutely ridiculous.

Lex Luthor is just... no. The worst thing I've ever seen. And it's not Eisenberg's fault, it's the character direction I have a problem with.

There are so many things I absolutely LOVED about the film but I can't just say it's a good movie because of that... it's a piece of shit with moments of brilliance thrown in there. As are most of Snyder's films.

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The Flood / Re: Nice Marvel shilling sperglords
« on: March 26, 2016, 06:31:13 PM »
It was ass and I'm a straight-up DC shill. You just have bad taste, evidently.

It certainly got things right every once in awhile, though.

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Gaming / Re: Games you've got every achievement/platinumed?
« on: March 26, 2016, 12:04:20 PM »
Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
Jak II
Jak 3
Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Batman: Arkham Origins
Batman: Arkham Knight
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
InFamous: Second Son

There might be more. Can't remember.

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The Flood / Re: Question for those who saw Batman v Superman
« on: March 26, 2016, 11:54:10 AM »
The Incredible Hulk was the Edward Norton one.

He meant The Hulk.

I know, I was under the impression that that one was also called The Incredible Hulk. Turns out it's just "Hulk".

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The Flood / Re: How would you fix the current state of the DCCU?
« on: March 25, 2016, 11:41:03 PM »

Thank god you are not involved in any way, shape or form.

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The Flood / Re: Question for those who saw Batman v Superman
« on: March 25, 2016, 11:38:57 PM »
1. Iron Man 3
2. Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice
3. Hulk
4. Fantastic 4
5. Batman and Robin

And I consider Iron Man 3 to be the worst MCU movie to date.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:36:19 PM »
and i made it clear that my rationale for that was because bruce applied himself more.

Okay? I still contest the statement that Bruce is smarter than Clark. Smarts don't account for effort.

This has gotta be one of the worst cases of semantics I've ever seen. Just drop it, we agree, ffs.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:34:41 PM »
Yeah, the TV shows blow ass.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:33:45 PM »
and all you said was "Bruce is smarter than Clark", which is arguable at best.
o rly ?

pretty sure my point was made abundantly clear well before i had to spell it out in caps
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bruce wayne, in just about every incarnation i can think of, devoted his life to becoming a polymath. he is consistently mentioned as being one of the smartest people alive in DC continuities. clark has a high IQ but he didnt devote himself to learning the way bruce did.

The point of your post was still "Bruce is smarter than Clark". I don't know what you're getting at, now.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:16:43 PM »
Oh my god. Semantics.
im honestly baffled that you werent able to clue in on the context for that long.

Whatever dude, I'm not really interested in your condescension. I was trying to refrain from being presumptuous, because obviously you already had some sort of chip on your shoulder. The onus of defining a poorly-defined word is on you when you use it, and all you said was "Bruce is smarter than Clark", which is arguable at best.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:13:18 PM »
Oh my god. Semantics. "Smart" is apparently an ill-defined word, but if that's what you meant, I agree.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:08:28 PM »
the fuck are you even going on about?

How do you define "smart"?

Because you keep saying "Clark has higher intelligence, but Batman knows more."

Okay? But that doesn't make Bruce smarter...

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:04:39 PM »
no, you just need to become receptive to what im telling you.

What you're telling me doesn't make sense.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:04:21 PM »
he has a higher intelligence quotient, a higher capacity for learning. bruce is functionally smarter because he is more driven and devotes his life to being one of the smartest men alive, because he has to be.

Obviously Bruce knows more.

Intelligence > knowledge

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:01:21 PM »

you're needlessly hostile and it gives comic book fans a bad rep. stop.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:00:30 PM »
How, if he wanted, would Clark not be inherently smarter than Bruce?
i swear its like talking to a fucking wall. he could be smarter than bruce. he just isnt in most incarnations, just due to the way their lives go. my fucking god.

Read my edit. I'm a little distracted at the moment.

Clark is inherently smarter than Bruce.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:59:34 PM »
why does everyone call him Reeves

his name was Christopher Reeve

i used to call him Reeves, too, though--what the fuck is with that

"Christopher Reeve's movies"

"Christopher Reeves"

idk

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:56:28 PM »
actually, they've officially included their entire comic history in the meta-canon. now, how that applies to movies and tv shows, im sure you could have spirited discussions all over the comic forum community about that, but if it was a comic its in the meta canon.

Really? Forgive me, I haven't been keeping up with DC post-New 52, so it must've been recently.

Either way, it seems a bit ridiculous to have to specifically remove every stupid little universe that ultimately shouldn't be included.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:55:22 PM »
Since when is Gotham right across from Metropolis?

It is in Snyder's universe, apparently.

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The Flood / Re: Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:54:47 PM »
bruce wayne, in just about every incarnation i can think of, devoted his life to becoming a polymath. he is consistently mentioned as being one of the smartest people alive in DC continuities. clark has a high IQ but he didnt devote himself to learning the way bruce did.

So what? Batman is smart, but I would argue he isn't even in the top 10 for the DCU. Hell, he's known as a "master tactician", and he's not even the smartest in that category! Deathstroke has bested him multiple times and Martian Manhunter has proven time and time again that he's at least equal to Bats. New 52 Aquaman routinely shows up Batman in the tactics department. The difference being, in my opinion, is Batman's paranoia.

Clark has "super intelligence" as one of his powers; his arch-nemesis is literally the smartest man in the universe -- how does this not already make him smarter than Batman?

There are comics where Superman has seen some of Batman's gadgets and noticed ways to improve them, but didn't say anything to spare Bruce's feelings. Superman once had to perform surgery on Lois to save her life, so he read every medical book ever written on that specific subject and became an expert so he could save her life. How would Clark not be inherently smarter than Bruce?


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