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Even if they're improving the life on a child who already exists in a worse position?

They're still not perfect, which to me, means they're still not good enough. That being said I revere adoptive parents with the utmost respect because they are relative saints to everyone else (given they fulfill adequate levels parental duties and such).

But I have a very low opinion on people in general which brings even the best of us to "subpar".

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Which children can get from extended family members (Grandparents, uncles/aunts), family friends, and education instructors - if not just from their parents.

I'm surprised that you would resort to such a silly argument, especially in 2016.

It well and truly isn't the same, let me assure you. Kids need strong, consistent parental figures every day.

But again, it has yet to be seen whether the problem actually occurs in homosexual marriages.

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You can't credit someone with intentionally causing an individual extensive harm if they didn't intend to.

"God had one Son on earth without sin, but never one without suffering."

Any child who was ever born or ever will be born will suffer immensely. The parents cannot guarantee bliss on earth, so therefore they do intend to inflict pain on their child, albeit, inadvertently.

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And from your perspective, a "Parent" is a bad person anyway, so using the phrase "Bad parent" is redundant and annoying. You have an issue with the concept of conceiving a child, not parenting one.

Every person who ever existed was a bad person, save one. There's just varying degrees of bad. Parents aren't particularly bad, though, because most of them sinply don't put the necessary thought into having a child. It would be like criticising a Lion for eating a Gazell when it doesn't know any better.

And yes, I have an issue with people justifying childbirth with their subpar parenting skills.

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I was in no way trying to convey that heterosexual parents make for better parents because they're better people or something.

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Not to blame you, but the notion that heterosexual parents would establish a better environment simply due to who they fuck is laughable.

It isn't about "who they fuck", it's about the child having both a mother and a father figure. That's what's important. Lacking either of those things can create the sub-optimal living conditions I was previously talking about. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on that.

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If I eat a peach, and it's not the best peach I've ever had, do you have some sort of problem with me describing it as "Good?"

No, I don't...? Why the fuck would I?

Worst comparison I've ever seen.

"Good" parents are still bad parents because they brought children into an existence where they suffered immensely.

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If you want to be an edgy clown and describe all concepts and experiences relative to absolute zero, go ahead. But don't act like your "Mentality" is anything beyond being a glass-half-empty person for the sake of sounding falsely deep and methodical.

None of my ideas are edgy, they've existed for centuries. But if you want to attempt a smear of my credibility with these insults, I don't mind. I could not care less whether anyone adopts my viewpoints or not.

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What a ridiculous and stupid mentality.

Yeah, spending your life striving to be the best parent in the world because you know you'll never be good enough is just an awful mindset to have.
You know that isn't what I said.

No, but that's what my mindset breeds.

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Implying that someone is incapable of being a "Good" parent because of the reasons you described is just a horrendous example of semantic gymnastics- You're just aiming to make some sort of outlandish, edgy statement because you think it sounds cool.

Not at all. This life is objectively garbage and bringing a child into it requires certain guarantees from the imposer (the parent). Those things are perfection and bliss, which no parent is capable of providing.

No doubt you disagree but in all honesty it doesn't matter. My mindset is salubrious on all accounts, and to argue against it seems a bit redundant.

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What a ridiculous and stupid mentality.

Yeah, spending your life striving to be the best parent in the world because you know you'll never be good enough is just an awful mindset to have.

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Gaming / Re: Is Assassin's Creed any good?
« on: July 04, 2016, 12:15:06 PM »
Assassin's Creed 1 is the best one, IMO. Though the setting of a game really makes or breaks it for me. That's why I also enjoyed 3.

But, by and large, no. It blows.

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The Flood / Re: O SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEE
« on: July 04, 2016, 12:10:17 PM »
Wish I was American, tbh. Almost as much as I wish I was German.

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Grow up will you?

I wish you weren't so abrasive. I actually have a soft spot for people like you.

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>prehistoric and Nuka ruin the thread
No surprise there folks

lol

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Besides, in reality, there is no such thing as a "good parent" -- only a less-shitty parent.
Pfft what is this crap?

In parenting, anything less than perfection isn't good enough. A perfect parent has never existed. Not hard.

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Septagon / Re: this forum is getting stale
« on: July 04, 2016, 05:16:27 AM »
Tetris because best game.

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The Flood / Re: Burning your money.
« on: July 04, 2016, 04:58:25 AM »
Luckily I never spend a dime because I get to see everyone else's fireworks on their Snapchat and shit.

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What's your favorite work of his? I have a small hard cover copy of his aphorisms next to my bed I got a couple days ago, I like his views on religion. I got "the world as will and representation" a while ago and tried to jump straight into it but the very first page is really bewildering.

Definitely "The World as Will and Representaion". Took me a few times to wrap my head around some of his ideas, but it's his best work by far. I'm actually planning to learn German so I can read it in its original language. I've heard the concepts are a bit lost in translation, which could explain why he's a little more spiritual/supernatural on the surface than he actually is (in reality, he was a vehement atheist).

If you get the chance I'd check out "The Basis of Morality", too. He wrote it as a response to a competition a local university was having IIRC, so it's not the mental trek TWAWAR is.

If you have any sympathies for the vegan crowd, he touches on it a bit in there, which is what initially drew me to him in the first place. Anti-natalism, too, but that's usually more of a turn-off for people than an attraction.

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You misunderstood what I said about parental capability, but we have come to an accord on the topic at-hand so I suppose it doesn't matter.

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Ha. I remember reading one tale of how he pushed a woman down the stairs for talking too much, resulting in her death.

His dislike for woman always seemed really out-of-character to me though, considering how "progressive" he was with most of his other beliefs.
LMAO

You gotta admit though, he's a fucking boss.

Considering he's one of, if not, my favourite philosopher of all time

yeah

he's a boss.

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The problem with waiting for "studies" is that you'll always find results that cater to either side. There are studies out there right now that say that homosexual parents are in fact better parents because they're more prepared and it takes a much bigger commitment to have a child. There's no unplanned pregnancies, no abortions, and gay couples go through a long process of preparing for the care of a child. Though of course, there's studies that will say the exact opposite.

I'm talking about actual, conclusive studies based on decades of data. I'm not saying "Wait for data of homosexual parents before allowing homosexuals to be parents." -- that's not possible. Let them be parents in response to the overpopulation problem. Get the data in the future.

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The ideal amount of children in orphanages should be zero.

The ideal amount of children in the world should be zero, as there are that many prepared and capable parents to care for them. But no one wants to play that game, so here we are.

Sometimes the government is a better parent than the one you're forced to have, and adoptive care is a better solution for those kids. That's what it should be there for.

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The Flood / Re: Its the 25th anniversary for Terminator 2
« on: July 04, 2016, 04:02:16 AM »

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Just because a kid has heterosexual parents, that doesn't mean they're good parents.

And I never implied anything like that. Only that there's potential for homosexual marriages to be sub-optimal in comparison to that of heterosexual marriages.

It may be like starting a foot race 10 paces behind the straight couple.

Besides, in reality, there is no such thing as a "good parent" -- only a less-shitty parent.

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Regardless, homosexual parents will always be better than an orphanage or single parent.

Not when the amount of children in adoptive care decreases to the ideal level. Orphanages aren't meant to be the shit-holes that they are. Over-population, corruption and/or negligence is responsible for that.

But based on how the system is currently run, yes, any loving home is better than the alternative.

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Arthur was a great man.

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Homosexuality offers no conceivable benifet to society.
orphanages would say otherwise

Perhaps when we faciliatate the adoption process we may see a benefit. As it stands though, no.

And it has also yet to be determined whether homosexual marriages establish a healthy growing environment for a child.

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Probably not.

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The Flood / Re: Do you ever just imagine yourself stomping on a baby?
« on: July 04, 2016, 02:45:33 AM »
You need to seek professional help. You are a danger to others.

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The Flood / Re: Its the 25th anniversary for Terminator 2
« on: July 04, 2016, 02:43:59 AM »
One of my favourite films.

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Ha. I remember reading one tale of how he pushed a woman down the stairs for talking too much, resulting in her death.

His dislike for woman always seemed really out-of-character to me though, considering how "progressive" he was with most of his other beliefs.

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Gaming / Re: For some reason I have an urge to play minecraft
« on: July 04, 2016, 12:53:20 AM »
Don't wanna spend 40 bucks on it. And I probably wouldn't play survival, just the creator mode or whatever.

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Septagon / Re: Megathreads are complete fucking cancer
« on: July 03, 2016, 02:47:46 AM »
Get cheat to make groups a thing asap and we won't need em

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The Flood / Going through some old gfs' Instagrams
« on: July 03, 2016, 02:41:31 AM »
Normally it's a painful process for me given how much i cared for each of them but recent events have given me a new perspective on things.


So glad i didnt end up with any one of them. Theyre bad news, man. Woulda either cheated on me because no sex or tempted me into something i didnt wanna do. Need a good girl to keep me level, yo


You guys ever go back to look at exes? Hows that usually go

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