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Gaming / Re: 4K gaming. Does anyone care?
« on: September 18, 2016, 05:21:25 PM »
My CRT setup still does the trick tbh

did you end up finding that small crt you were looking for?

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 05:17:21 PM »
Do you honestly think a person who cheats on his wife is going to be there for you? He has no loyalty to a woman he looked in the eye and said he'd be with forever, what the fuck makes you think he has your back?

No. I get what you're saying, but there's a line.

tbh im pretty sure she knows about his cheating and knew about it before she married him. i dont think its a big secret.

but yeah, i do think so. he doesnt give a shit about women.
I can't say I could ever consider a person like that a friend. Friendship is more than just loyalty. What if you're friends with the wife?

It's a lot more complicated than what you're saying. I wouldn't tell his wife, but I would keep my distance.

well in this instance im not friends with his wife. i dont even know her. if i was, it would depend on who i was more of a friend with.
Then doesn't your whole premise fall apart either way?

yeah maybe you're right

maybe i've got some more thinking to do

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:53:16 PM »
Do you honestly think a person who cheats on his wife is going to be there for you? He has no loyalty to a woman he looked in the eye and said he'd be with forever, what the fuck makes you think he has your back?

No. I get what you're saying, but there's a line.

tbh im pretty sure she knows about his cheating and knew about it before she married him. i dont think its a big secret.

but yeah, i do think so. he doesnt give a shit about women.
I can't say I could ever consider a person like that a friend. Friendship is more than just loyalty. What if you're friends with the wife?

It's a lot more complicated than what you're saying. I wouldn't tell his wife, but I would keep my distance.

well in this instance im not friends with his wife. i dont even know her. if i was, it would depend on who i was more of a friend with.

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:52:17 PM »
So if you met someone who was respectable but then 1O years later turned into a junkie rapist, you would still be loyal to them for some arbitrary honor code?

really would depend on the level of friendship that was established before the 10 year absence.

but if i considered them a good friend, probably. my good friends are my family and you don't disown family, no matter what.

Why not

Actions from way back don't define you now
People change
You would be dragging yourself down just for memories

because the things you went through together transcend any values you have.

if for nothing else, it's blackmail -- you don't turn against your friends because they have dirty info on you that you don't want released. i don't like to think of that, but it's definitely a part of it.

you don't necessarily even need to continue being active friends with this person if what they do turns you off from them so much.

But those values are what brought you together and hold you together
If a person strays from everything you loved them for, then what's left keeping you together other than memories

if i chose my friends based on how closely the share my beliefs and values, i'd have no friends. friendship isn't about duplicating yourself.

Even then
If everything you love them for is gone, holding on for memories is just stupid

the only thing i love about this hypothetical person is their loyalty.

that's enough in my eyes.

being a rapists or meth head doesnt mean i dont care for them. my father used to beat my mother, but he's still my father. with a friend, its no different.

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:50:18 PM »
That's a yes-man, not a friend.

you have a poor definition of friendship if yours doesn't include loyalty
I'm pretty loyal when it matters.  You've got a pretty selfish definition if you expect friends to blindly approve of everything you do and heat up every time you're forced to have a speck of introspection.

no such thing as "pretty loyal"

theres loyalty and then theres nothing. theres no middle ground here.

but yeah, i expect what i give in a friendship and if i cant come to you with anything than how much do i really trust you? how close can we be?

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:48:26 PM »
Do you honestly think a person who cheats on his wife is going to be there for you? He has no loyalty to a woman he looked in the eye and said he'd be with forever, what the fuck makes you think he has your back?

No. I get what you're saying, but there's a line.

tbh im pretty sure she knows about his cheating and knew about it before she married him. i dont think its a big secret.

but yeah, i do think so. he doesnt give a shit about women.

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:46:47 PM »
So if you met someone who was respectable but then 1O years later turned into a junkie rapist, you would still be loyal to them for some arbitrary honor code?

really would depend on the level of friendship that was established before the 10 year absence.

but if i considered them a good friend, probably. my good friends are my family and you don't disown family, no matter what.

Why not

Actions from way back don't define you now
People change
You would be dragging yourself down just for memories

because the things you went through together transcend any values you have.

if for nothing else, it's blackmail -- you don't turn against your friends because they have dirty info on you that you don't want released. i don't like to think of that, but it's definitely a part of it.

you don't necessarily even need to continue being active friends with this person if what they do turns you off from them so much.

But those values are what brought you together and hold you together
If a person strays from everything you loved them for, then what's left keeping you together other than memories

if i chose my friends based on how closely the share my beliefs and values, i'd have no friends. friendship isn't about duplicating yourself.

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:31:54 PM »
So if you met someone who was respectable but then 1O years later turned into a junkie rapist, you would still be loyal to them for some arbitrary honor code?

really would depend on the level of friendship that was established before the 10 year absence.

but if i considered them a good friend, probably. my good friends are my family and you don't disown family, no matter what.

Why not

Actions from way back don't define you now
People change
You would be dragging yourself down just for memories

because the things you went through together transcend any values you have.

if for nothing else, it's blackmail -- you don't turn against your friends because they have dirty info on you that you don't want released. i don't like to think of that, but it's definitely a part of it.

you don't necessarily even need to continue being active friends with this person if what they do turns you off from them so much.

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:28:15 PM »
That's a yes-man, not a friend.

you have a poor definition of friendship if yours doesn't include loyalty

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:26:54 PM »
So if you met someone who was respectable but then 1O years later turned into a junkie rapist, you would still be loyal to them for some arbitrary honor code?

really would depend on the level of friendship that was established before the 10 year absence.

but if i considered them a good friend, probably. my good friends are my family and you don't disown family, no matter what.

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:24:31 PM »
And i think a lot of people (here in particular) have never actually felt a real friendship like that... you may share similar interests or backgrounds but you don't have the camaraderie that some of the "bad people" of the world have. When it comes down to it, those people won't be there for you.
I do, luckily. I've had my best friend since 7th grade and we've been through so much shit, lol. It's always amazing when you have someone like that.

i envy that. i only have one like that. even when we fought for a couple of months, he didn't tell anyone anything about the things i've done or said. and for that i realised how good of a friend he actually was to me. and i realised that this is someone i should probably keep around.

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:22:08 PM »
I'd expect a friend to tell me when I'm being a fucking idiot and suggest a better course of action.

of course, i'd do the same -- but if they continued on that path, that's none of my business

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:21:20 PM »
That's fuckin dumb as fuck fuck off

that's just cuz you don't have any friends, man

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:20:35 PM »
Loyalty doesn't mean just accepting anything they do

yeah, it kinda does.

if you don't want to define friendship using the word loyalty, than don't -- but i do, and i think have someone who's loyal to you is better than having a friend.

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The Flood / Re: i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:18:59 PM »
And i think a lot of people (here in particular) have never actually felt a real friendship like that... you may share similar interests or backgrounds but you don't have the camaraderie that some of the "bad people" of the world have. When it comes down to it, those people won't be there for you.

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The Flood / i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
« on: September 18, 2016, 04:11:04 PM »
and i think you can only really be someone's friend if you support them in everything -- even when they're wrong.

for example, a friend of mine is routinely cheating on his wife. now, i personally wouldn't do something like that and i think it's wrong, but truly having someone's back and being loyal, to me, is more important than doing what is maybe the morally right thing to do. because he would for me.

and i think that's what defines friendship. it's almost an extension of family, really. i would never want to put one of my friends in a morally ambiguous position but i'd like to think there's a few i could absolutely go to with any of my problems for help.

just something i've been tossing around lately.

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it isn't just women who love to be the victim. every person nowadays seems to be the victim of some injustice.

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Gaming / Re: what is objectively the best game ever?
« on: September 18, 2016, 12:45:17 PM »
tetris, actually

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The Flood / Re: First picture of J.K. Simmons as Commissioner Jim Gordon.
« on: September 18, 2016, 12:11:27 PM »
this movie is going to save the DCEU, i'm calling it

I hope so.

But when Batman is the only reliable cinematic franchise for DC, do you want THIS movie to be the one that saves them? It just proves they should just keep rebooting Batman titles

no i don't want that

but i'll take good batman movies over no good movies at all

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Gaming / Re: "It's impossible to have a worst game of all time nowadays."
« on: September 18, 2016, 11:31:58 AM »
I dunno, isn't the next Destiny title meant to be released next year?

it was supposed to be this year iirc but it looks like they're just doing expansions instead of actual sequels and such

hell, rise of iron isn't coming to last gen. consoles and neither are any of the new updates.

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The Flood / Re: Which famous person is going to die next
« on: September 18, 2016, 11:29:16 AM »

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The Flood / Re: First picture of J.K. Simmons as Commissioner Jim Gordon.
« on: September 18, 2016, 11:28:13 AM »
this movie is going to save the DCEU, i'm calling it

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The Flood / Re: First picture of J.K. Simmons as Commissioner Jim Gordon.
« on: September 18, 2016, 10:16:02 AM »
god fucking damnit Simmons is so cool

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The Flood / Re: What Are/Did you doing/do This Weekend?
« on: September 18, 2016, 09:41:22 AM »
Well considering I'm sorta on house arrest with no car and everything, I told my friend to come over on Saturday to hang out. Took her to an old diner near my house, then introduced her to my family and stuff. Then went to get lunch and shop a little bit.

Today (Sunday) is my mother's birthday but she's just working so I'm probably going to start playing through Emerald.

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The Flood / Re: What are some good alternatives to google chrome?
« on: September 18, 2016, 08:47:19 AM »
just go firefox or safari. i loved safari but they stopped supporting youtube a long time ago. idk if theyve changed that.

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Gaming / Re: what is objectively the best game ever?
« on: September 18, 2016, 08:45:04 AM »
blood dragon is my kinda game bro

nice to see another synthead on sep7


OT: mgs3

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Gaming / Re: New Metal Gear game announced
« on: September 18, 2016, 08:43:21 AM »
God forbid we got a stroy based game which is about The Boss instead of this bullshit.

that's actually the worst fucking idea i've ever heard, thanks.
What would be so horrible about a game where we play as her during the events of WW2?

because you'd just have to push the boundaries of "legendary hero" even further back to retain what makes "metal gear" metal gear.

there's an enigmatic legendary hero in every one of the games and their legacy hovers over the protag's head like a guillotine. mg1~mgs1, it was big boss that was the enigmatic hero. in mgs2, it was solid snake. mgs3, in explaining the story of big boss, created the boss as its enigmatic hero. this concept is literally the heart and soul of metal gear, and without kojima handling it, i dont trust anyone to try. (not that i wouldve wanted him to try even if he was still working on metal gear).

if anything you could make a story out of big boss's life during ww2. but leave the boss out of it. as far as im concerned, we know the perfect amount of information about her life.

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Gaming / Re: New Metal Gear game announced
« on: September 17, 2016, 04:43:40 PM »
if anyone deserves their own game, it's liquid

needs development + it's believable that he'd be able to do anything the other snakes can do

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Gaming / Re: New Metal Gear game announced
« on: September 17, 2016, 04:33:40 PM »
God forbid we got a stroy based game which is about The Boss instead of this bullshit.

that's actually the worst fucking idea i've ever heard, thanks.

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The Flood / Re: what do you think of my new avatar
« on: September 17, 2016, 04:30:22 PM »
it's a synthwave artist's album iirc, don't remember the name

solid avatar

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