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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:55:56 AM »



SUPER MULLET!


best part of ssj4 is the mullet


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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:54:39 AM »
Any Dragon Ball YouTuber is like that.
Dragon Ball YouTuber is
Dragon Ball YouTuber
Why is this a thing and why does it make me want to gouge my own eyes out so much

I like Masako. He knows his stuff and voices Abriged Goku!

hes a huge fag bro.
no, that would be kaiserneko

masako is a really cool dude

i havent met a non fag db youtuber yet

i mean im still subbed to him but that doesnt make him not gay

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The Flood / Re: Cringe Thread: 2016 Year in Review
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:42:23 AM »

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:41:33 AM »
Super Saiyan 2 is the best transformation tbh

in terms of combat viability for sure.

double the capability of ssj with no draw backs to stamina, speed or energy consumption.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:40:20 AM »
You guys aren't surprised the show eventually became a meme? After every world ending event they just resorted to "LOL just wish them back bro"

"They've already died and can't be revived using Earth's Shenron? Np let's just go to Namek and do it there, infinite revives as long it's one human per wish xDDDD"

who cares about that

the real problem with the anime is that these characters jump from, at max, being capable of destroying a dozen solar systems, to 4th dimensional beings capable of time altering punches. its like every single character is superman prime. its just not interesting.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:37:47 AM »
I don't know what you people are on, but when Goku transformed for the first time I got chills. Shit still hypes me up.

I agree about the different transformations though. It seems like they don't need much training or conditioning anymore in order to ascend to the next level.

Ssj1 required months of high gravity training and conditioning, Goku nearly dying, and half of his friends dying in order to ascend. Vegeta was in a literal life or death training exercise after intense conditioning in order to ascend.

Queue years of training in the hyperbolic time chamber in high gravity in order to get used to ssj1, and then another life or death situation in order to ascend that.

After that it was basically "lel I'm stronker now."

A big part of dbz which fell off subsequently is that it's no longer a long, drawn out emotional struggle to achieve greatness. Literally the best part of the show.

They should have ended at ssj1 and achieved greater power through training and conditioning, not this world ending long hair no eyebrow having mufucka or high school girl dyeing her hair to be a special snowflake shit.

Ssj1 was supposed to be fucking legendary, and now children are able to achieve it without a catalyst.

Pretty much. the namek ssj1 transformation was the best one. especially with faulconers music.

i just think ascended saiyan (ss2) should have been the limit.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:35:14 AM »
The Buu saga was a meme arc when it came to power scaling anyway

"Guess we're both Super Saiyan 2 now"
"I'm evil SSJ2 now because you're slightly stronger"
"Oops SSJ3"
"Fusion"
"Oh Gohan is more powerful than SSJ3 now because he got danced around for a day"
"Better fusion now"

This is why I want Super to stick with Super Saiyan Blue

fusion was a good idea. potara fusion wasnt.

mystic gohan makes sense. i can talk about that for days.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:33:59 AM »
Any Dragon Ball YouTuber is like that.
Dragon Ball YouTuber is
Dragon Ball YouTuber
Why is this a thing and why does it make me want to gouge my own eyes out so much

I like Masako. He knows his stuff and voices Abriged Goku!

hes a huge fag bro.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 30, 2016, 08:33:28 AM »
Is that video like a cringe video or a cringe compilation or like a suicide encouragement video?

no, that would be this video

https://youtu.be/kFhF5b567kQ

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 09:20:39 PM »
Any Dragon Ball YouTuber is like that.
Dragon Ball YouTuber is
Dragon Ball YouTuber
Why is this a thing and why does it make me want to gouge my own eyes out so much

it's just folks who primarily make videos on DB. No different than a sports or politics channel.

One would think there would only be so much that could be said about a series that ended decades ago.

Then again I guess it's easy to keep people speculating when your writing is full of plot holes and inconsistency.

super is still airing so there's plenty to talk about. obviously a huge spike when the new movies came out.

not to mention the multiple mmos based on the series.

I meant before Super. Back when every game just retold everything from Raditz to Buu and maybe some movie villains.

Speaking of which anyone else notice how much better the movie villains were? Cooler kicks ass.

before super there weren't really dragon ball youtubers. not profitable ones, anyway.

but yeah, movie villains were cool. cooler is one of my favourites too.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 09:14:40 PM »
Any Dragon Ball YouTuber is like that.
Dragon Ball YouTuber is
Dragon Ball YouTuber
Why is this a thing and why does it make me want to gouge my own eyes out so much

it's just folks who primarily make videos on DB. No different than a sports or politics channel.

One would think there would only be so much that could be said about a series that ended decades ago.

Then again I guess it's easy to keep people speculating when your writing is full of plot holes and inconsistency.

super is still airing so there's plenty to talk about. obviously a huge spike when the new movies came out.

not to mention the multiple mmos based on the series.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 09:07:15 PM »
Any Dragon Ball YouTuber is like that.
Dragon Ball YouTuber is
Dragon Ball YouTuber
Why is this a thing and why does it make me want to gouge my own eyes out so much

it's just folks who primarily make videos on DB. No different than a sports or politics channel.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 09:02:07 PM »
I mean, yeah it's completely useless in a prolonged fight but the transformation was awesome!
It's essentially Super Saiyan 2's Super Trunks transformation. It increase the strength of the user by 400, but instead of stunting the user's speed, it strains the body more than any other transformation (save Kaioken or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, debateably.) You'd be better off growing accustomed to the Super Saiyan 2 transformation like Goku and Gohan did to the Super Saiyan transformation in the Cell Saga.
i think she's just talking about the scene itself, when he first does it

the really shitty, overwrought one with the bad dialogue and the embarrassing, prolonged, constipated screaming

Sean Schemmel passed out after that scream.

Pretty sure that's a fan rumour. Like the one about Toriyama saying Gohan was the strongest unfused character in DBZ (even thought it's true.)

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 08:57:45 PM »
There should only have ever been one Super Saiyan form. Everything after just cheapened the first time it was shown.

Well that was the idea. Super Saiyan 2 wasn't meant to be Super Saiyan 2, it was meant to be the fully-powered Super Saiyan form. They were the same thing.

I just wish they'd stuck with it.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 08:56:44 PM »
Dude, it's been that way since the last season of the original Dragon Ball, Kaio-ken was literally just a Proto-Super Saiyan.

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Super Saiyan Grade 5 was barely touched on in lieu of Super Saiyan 3, an admittedly cool transformation that solidifies my main complaint with Dragon Ball after the Buu Saga: it's not about martial arts or fighting anymore. It's about transformations and power levels.

Not to the extent it's been since the Buu Saga.

The fight scene between Cell and Full-Power Goku is the most technically proficient and well-choreographed fight in the entire show, and Goku never transformed. The cool-factor of that fight wasn't due to watching a new form of Super Saiyan transform, it was just a good fight.

Piccolo had an amazing fight against 17 without a transformation. Majin Vegeta versus Goku, even (which is Buu saga, but didn't introduce new transformations).

I'm not saying they placed no emphasis on transformations before the Buu Arc, I'm just saying there was less. Fuck, even Super has it's problems with this. Super Saiyan God, Saiyan Beyond God, Super Saiyan Blue, Super Saiyan Rose. It's ridiculous.

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The Flood / Re: Cringe Thread: 2016 Year in Review
« on: November 29, 2016, 08:48:52 PM »
This shit just doesn't surprise or phase me anymore.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 08:48:01 PM »
I mean, yeah it's completely useless in a prolonged fight but the transformation was awesome!
It's essentially Super Saiyan 2's Super Trunks transformation. It increase the strength of the user by 400, but instead of stunting the user's speed, it strains the body more than any other transformation (save Kaioken or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, debateably.) You'd be better off growing accustomed to the Super Saiyan 2 transformation like Goku and Gohan did to the Super Saiyan transformation in the Cell Saga.
i think she's just talking about the scene itself, when he first does it

the really shitty, overwrought one with the bad dialogue and the embarrassing, prolonged, constipated screaming

I know what she's talking about. I posted the exact same scene in my OP. She just gave me an opportunity to elaborate on my Super Saiyan 3 thoughts.

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The Flood / Re: Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 08:39:09 PM »
I mean, yeah it's completely useless in a prolonged fight but the transformation was awesome!

It's essentially Super Saiyan 2's Super Trunks transformation. It increase the strength of the user by 400, but instead of stunting the user's speed, it strains the body more than any other transformation (save Kaioken or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, debateably.) You'd be better off growing accustomed to the Super Saiyan 2 transformation like Goku and Gohan did to the Super Saiyan transformation in the Cell Saga.

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The Flood / Super Saiyan 3 was the biggest mistake of Dragon Ball.
« on: November 29, 2016, 08:33:27 PM »
YouTube


Forgive the somewhat dorky commentator. Any Dragon Ball YouTuber is like that.

Anyways, the topic is something I find fairly interesting. I'll sumarise if you don't feel like watching, as well as putting my 2 cents in at the end.

Before the days of Goku spoon-feeding Majin Buu (and the readers) an understanding of Super Saiyan transformations, we had the "Super Saiyan Grade" levels. Which went as follows:

Super Saiyan - Goku achieved this after Krillin was killed by Freeza on Namek. Your average transformation, anyone who has achieved a Super Saiyan state went through this form first.




Super Saiyan Grade 2 - Super Vegeta. He and Trunks achieved this form after training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and used it against Semi-Perfect Cell. Keeps the energy inside the user and increases muscle mass and strength, but sacrifices speed a manageable amount.



Super Saiyan Grade 3 - Super Trunks. Trunks uses this form against Perfect Cell after Vegeta gets knocked out. Vastly increases strength while greatly reducing speed.



Super Saiyan Grade 4 - Also called "Full-power Super Saiyan." The strain of Super Saiyan is completely negated because the user is so comfortable in the form. Goku and Gohan achieved this form after their time in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.





And finally,

Super Saiyan Grade 5 - A fully fleshed-out form of Super Saiyan. Capable of greater strength than any grade before without sacrificing speed. The ultimate fighting transformation a Saiyan can achieve. Gohan achieved this form while fighting Cell as Android 16 was killed.






And that was [supposed to be] it. Dragon Ball was meant to end after the Cell Saga. But due to demand, the series continued to [arguably] its worst arc. The regular Super Saiyan transformation was reduced to a child's plaything, Super Saiyan Grade 5 was barely touched on in lieu of Super Saiyan 3, an admittedly cool transformation that solidifies my main complaint with Dragon Ball after the Buu Saga: it's not about martial arts or fighting anymore. It's about transformations and power levels. Not only is Super Saiyan 3 arguably the worst Super Saiyan transformation, in terms of combat viability, it also opens up the door to all sorts of weirdo transformations designs and concepts.

It's kind of what Akira is doing in Super now, where he has stated there will no longer be any use for anything after the original Super Saiyan (including Blue). This is a shame. Super Saiyan 2 should be that form. Not only did he pick the worst Super Saiyan form to base Blue off of (in both design and power multipliers), it's also just a lazy recolour. I really enjoyed Resurrection F's fight scene before Blue showed up. Goku's Saiyan Beyond God form against Final Form Freeza was awesome -- it was the first time I've ever thought base form Goku was cool looking. If anything, I'd be okay with the Saiyan Beyond God form to be the only form they use in Super now. Super Saiyan Blue is incredibly stupid, but that's another conversation.



Anyways, I've been watching a few videos on Super and the levels of power these characters are capable of just ridiculous. Universal strength? Goku was, at best, a multi-Solar System buster in the Buu Saga. Now he shatters the fabric of the universe. Whatever.

Anyways, I thought it was cool to go back to a time before we thought of them as Super Saiyan 1, 2 and 3.

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The Flood / Re: Judas Priest thread
« on: November 29, 2016, 04:25:05 PM »
always thought these guys had a great name

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Gaming / Re: Phil Spencer wants Nintendo Games to make it to the XB1.
« on: November 29, 2016, 02:40:47 PM »
Phil Spencer is the reason I switched to Xbox. He single-handedly took the "Gamer's First" platform away from Sony this generation. A complete 180° from the console's debut.

It's not that I think Nintendo games will come to Xbox, but the fact that he openly admits and welcomes their appearance on his console that I think is so telling. And other things, too. Like wanting Banjo-Kazooie to make an appearance in Smash Brothers, or basically erasing the virtual lines between Microsoft consoles and PCs, in terms of connectivity and exclusivity. Or fucking backwards compatibility -- a feature that really hasn't been seen in basically 2 console generations.

All of these things would logically take money away from Microsoft and their partners but they empower the gaming consumer and put their satisfaction first.

Meanwhile, Playstation Plus continues to disappoint. And now, at a higher price.

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The Flood / Re: What do you think about this?
« on: November 28, 2016, 10:00:33 PM »
I sort of agree with the sentiment of people lacking objectivity but "Person of the Year" has positive connotations, almost like praise. Giving some award to Bin Laden or Hitler is just fucking mental.
It's not an award, it's an end of the year summation of who was the most important person that year. For better or worse.

As far as I'm concerned, there are still positive connotations that equate it to an award or praise of some kind. No one says "Wow, he was named Person of the Year? What a piece of shit."
Then the wording should be changed, but there's nothing wrong with the idea.

I guess not, I just don't think there's any way that you can call someone "Person of the Year" and not have it stroke their ego.

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The Flood / Re: What do you think about this?
« on: November 28, 2016, 09:58:56 PM »
I sort of agree with the sentiment of people lacking objectivity but "Person of the Year" has positive connotations, almost like praise. Giving some award to Bin Laden or Hitler is just fucking mental.
It's not an award, it's an end of the year summation of who was the most important person that year. For better or worse.
As far as I'm concerned, there are still positive connotations that equate it to an award or praise of some kind. No one says "Wow, he was named Person of the Year? What a piece of shit."
no one says "wow, he was named person of the year? what an awesome guy" either

Sure they do. "Caitlyn Jenner was named woman of the year. Good for her."

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The Flood / Re: What do you think about this?
« on: November 28, 2016, 09:54:01 PM »
I sort of agree with the sentiment of people lacking objectivity but "Person of the Year" has positive connotations, almost like praise. Giving some award to Bin Laden or Hitler is just fucking mental.
It's not an award, it's an end of the year summation of who was the most important person that year. For better or worse.

As far as I'm concerned, there are still positive connotations that equate it to an award or praise of some kind. No one says "Wow, he was named Person of the Year? What a piece of shit."

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The Flood / Re: What do you think about this?
« on: November 28, 2016, 09:28:33 PM »
I sort of agree with the sentiment of people lacking objectivity but "Person of the Year" has positive connotations, almost like praise. Giving some award to Bin Laden or Hitler is just fucking mental.

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Gaming / Re: Possible Damien Wayne Batman game might be coming
« on: November 27, 2016, 07:12:53 PM »
I'm far more interested in the player-created avatar Suicide Squad brawler, but hey, this game might be cool. Arkham Origins is underrated.

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I will say, the Riddler's dialogue was amazing.
He worked really well as comedic relief.

this part killed me from day 1

YouTube

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Gaming / Re: PS4 Pro TV?
« on: November 26, 2016, 03:11:23 PM »
The Vizio D-series offers 4k definition with the lowest input lag available on the market, for around $600 bucks.

https://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-D50u-D1-50-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B016C64ENE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480194546&sr=8-1&keywords=vizio+d+series

13.6 ms input lag iirc. This is the one I'll be buying come Monday for my Xbox One S. The picture quality is obviously not going to compete with the high-end 4k tvs, but this is a $600 TV that you buy purely for gaming. If you want something for movies or TV, you're going to have to deal with 30+ ms of input lag for nearly 4 times the price.

That being said, it's still a modern TV, and it's still 4k, so it's probably going to look better than whatever you're running now.

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Don't buy it.

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Gaming / anybody here play xenoverse 2?
« on: November 24, 2016, 06:40:06 PM »
i've been enjoying myself a lot. character customisation is a little shitty especially considering the last game i was able to do this in was ultimate tenkaichi. but the combat is the best weve ever had.

i specialise in frieza race and earthling. id use saiyan but the hairstyles and lack of stylisation when you transform is a deal breaker.

what do you guys think

also add me on xbox one if you wanna run some pqs or something

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