If you want $17-18, ask for $21/HR.

i honestly feel like ill be laughed at if i ask for that

not that im afraid of that. i dont really care. its just that theres a chance my boss doesnt even make that much.

i know they can afford to pay me 18.

also keep in mind comstruction is seasonal here so you only work half the year and it was cash pay, meaning theres more reason to pay the workers more. most guys make 30 an hour in construction, whereas i was making 20.

to put things in perspective, i got my first raise in construction after 2 months, going from 15 to 20 an hour.

Did you accept you for 4th month?
did they extend your contract or did they make you permanent?

theres no contract. they never specifically stated "3 months", thats just what i gathered from talking to people. theyre keeping me on because theyre exceptionally happy with my work.

started this job 3 months ago. thats usually the "probabtion" period where they try you out and see if youre a good fit for the establishment. they told me id be making 14 an hour when I started, and "we'll see how it goes from there."

3 months have gone and im going to ask for a raise by the fourth (dont want to seem too greedy) but im not sure how much to ask for. ideally, if theycould match what i was making when i left construction (20/hour) id be ecstatic. but im also realistic and thats quite the jump from 14. im thinking 17 or 18 would be more reasonable, but should i negotiate and start at 20 to bring them down? or actually go for the 20/hour?

even if she doesnt like him theres no harm in going back and asking for her number.

its just a random girl who the fuck cares if she says no.

what the fuck? how is it wrong he went back?

i mean unless you consider any action after the first mistake of not getting her number a mistake

oh my god ian

i think youre a smart dude with a good head on your shoulders, but the language barrier hampers your interactions with most of us.

waoh. i dont even like verb but that wasn't really bad(compared to a lot of other shit said on here).  This site is dying enough as it is. congrats on alienating one of you're biggest posters.

no hes been worse over the last couple months. he needs a time out.

What actually happened?

he said to LC "id be perfectly okay skinning your face and eating it" or something

based on his prior behaviour in that thread it was well earned

Quote from: Eli on January 01, 2017, 10:12:44 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on January 01, 2017, 05:56:46 PM

I'm also highly unmotivated,

i feel that this is more likely the reason you arent working.

Everything about jobs--both the process behind getting one and eventually having one--goes against everything I've stood for over the past 15 years of my life, so getting motivated doesn't really seem like a realistic possibility.

Lying is the most uncomfortable thing for me. And I don't mean lying about your credentials--I mean filing the application in the first place. You're basically saying, "I think I am qualified for this job," when you know you're not. And then when you finally get an interview, most people have to lie even more. Or "stretch the truth," which is still lying.

Then you get the job, fucking over hundreds of people who are more qualified than you and would probably be much happier to be in your position. Then the misery, depression, and guilt sets in, because now you have what you've dreaded having since you were a small child: a job. People are relying on your sorry ass now. People are paying you to do work you know you don't care about and won't do very well at as a result.

Then you get your first paycheck and wonder what you're gonna do with it. You think it's so much the first time, but it's really nothing at all in the grand scheme of things. You either save it, only opting to spend it on things you absolutely need, or you go spendthrift and purchase a bunch of frivolous shit. Either way, you have less money now, so you have to get more. It doesn't end. There's never a point where your job is completed. So you go back to work and get more pieces of paper to buy shit you don't need, or enough shit to sustain your miserable existence with, and back again. You maintain a sense of stagnation and stultification that never goes away, and the only thing in your day you have to look forward to is when it's finally over, because you get to fall asleep and peacefully do nothing--the thing you've always wanted to do to begin with.

Then you realize that this is your life now. Doing this, nonstop, for no greater purpose and no chance of ever looking up--because you work at Starbucks or some shit. Even if you get your dream job, you'll most likely end up hating it anyway. And hell, if you do like your job, you've probably been reduced to a soulless husk anyway. You've convinced yourself that what you're doing isn't completely miserable and soul-crushing, because to admit that would make you miserable. And that's not how you're supposed to feel. You're supposed to be happy to be a drone.

So, which part of that am I meant to be excited about?

i feel sorry for you. not because you think the way you do (youre 100% right), but because you havent managed to compartmentalize and control your thoughts and motivations. use the pain of getting up everyday and doing something that makes you miserable to fuel your vindication. thats what i do.

I'm hoping I had to suffer this year to enjoy more years in the future.

Plus she was a prominent actor of her own at one time.

oh okay, that makes sense

if she wasnt famous too all this attention wouldnt make sense to me