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Don't really see a problem with it.

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The Flood / Re: The GoT episode 4 discussion thread.
« on: August 07, 2017, 07:20:27 PM »
brienne, who is likely an equal to full power jaime?
LOL

"youre a fucking peasant who knows nothing in comparison to me, the game of thrones master"

fuck off bro you take every chance you get to shit on people with your negativity

the show at least leads us to believe they're in the same tier
damn you got mad fast

lol just cuz i told you to fuck off i'm mad? i'm just calling you out on the same bullshit you're known for

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Gaming / Re: I started playing Warframe 10 days ago.
« on: August 07, 2017, 07:09:48 PM »
i think my favourite thing about the game though is the community. they're so friendly and willing to help out. you hop in a match, quickly type out what you're trying to do (say, gather all 8 syndicate medallions to increase your standing) and they're like "yeah sure let me help you out"

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Gaming / Re: I started playing Warframe 10 days ago.
« on: August 07, 2017, 07:06:03 PM »
destiny but better
really tho

I've never been able to play it longer than an hour, and the character design is halo 5 tier garbage. does it get better?

I need something to keep me occupied until D2 release.

if you've got 10 hours to pour into the game, that's about when it picks up

the addicting part of the game is forging your own weapons and armour after gathering enough resources, and then cleverly utilising the modding portion of the game to enhance every facet of your arsenal. when you start doing this, and start seeing the difference it makes, it's fucking awesome.

takes about 10 hours. it's nowhere near as accessible as destiny so you have to be prepared to do some research on the wiki to find out which planet has what mats and which bosses drop what blueprints.

art style grows on you.

i mean it's free so you can't really go wrong.

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The Flood / Re: The GoT episode 4 discussion thread.
« on: August 07, 2017, 07:00:27 PM »
brienne, who is likely an equal to full power jaime?
LOL

"youre a fucking peasant who knows nothing in comparison to me, the game of thrones master"

fuck off bro you take every chance you get to shit on people with your negativity

the show at least leads us to believe they're in the same tier

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Gaming / Re: I started playing Warframe 10 days ago.
« on: August 07, 2017, 06:37:14 PM »
What in the god-damn

i've left you behind, banjo

you waited too long to play with me
I'm just letting you have the extra mile, its only fair

idk your taste in games so i don't wanna hound you to play with me

but i would love someone to play with tbh

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The Flood / Re: Why the fuck do people watch rick and morty?
« on: August 07, 2017, 06:35:47 PM »
it's pretty shit

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Gaming / Re: I started playing Warframe 10 days ago.
« on: August 07, 2017, 06:00:15 PM »
also shout out to oss for bein a real G and trading me some good mods

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Gaming / Re: I started playing Warframe 10 days ago.
« on: August 07, 2017, 05:57:48 PM »
What in the god-damn

i've left you behind, banjo

you waited too long to play with me

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Gaming / Re: I started playing Warframe 10 days ago.
« on: August 07, 2017, 05:57:23 PM »
i don't even know what it is

third person looter shooter

destiny but better

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Gaming / Re: I started playing Warframe 10 days ago.
« on: August 07, 2017, 05:44:56 PM »
Like quarter of that time is your warframe launcher turned on downloading updates. Look time in your in-game profile.




good call

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Gaming / Warframe
« on: August 07, 2017, 05:39:27 PM »
Yeah

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The Flood / Re: The GoT episode 4 discussion thread.
« on: August 07, 2017, 05:31:37 PM »
Arya's scene with Brienne was fucking awesome but felt a little cheap. No chance she's Hound-tier after a few months in Braavos.
Jon Snow x Dany is a thing now, I bet.
i know right, i mean brienne is one of the most battle hardened fuckers in westeros (show-wise) and has bested some of the most skilled knights and arya hasn't even really had a proper sword fight until now (unless i missed something?)

i mean presumably the faceless men are some of the most skilled warriors in the world, but i don't give a shit, washing a few dead bodies and being blind for a couple months doesn't suddenly make you god tier

like yeah i can imagine she could take a few regular soldiers but fucking brienne, who is likely an equal to full power jaime? nah

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The Flood / Re: Meet me
« on: August 07, 2017, 04:19:55 PM »
i'm going to meet several of you

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The Flood / Re: Should we arm teachers and professors?
« on: August 07, 2017, 04:17:50 PM »
for every reasonable gun nut theres about 1.5 hundred thousand retards

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 03:28:54 PM »
i'm not freaking out, i just enjoy berrating you


heh
berate me more, daddy

jeez man, spud's into it
slice and dice
can't do it when they into it

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 02:04:48 PM »
also, that pun

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 02:04:05 PM »
i just think botw functions as a better game. ww is better as a piece of art.

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The Flood / Re: The GoT episode 4 discussion thread.
« on: August 07, 2017, 01:46:18 PM »
we all know the prophecy refers to him

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The Flood / Re: The GoT episode 4 discussion thread.
« on: August 07, 2017, 01:45:41 PM »
Jaime isn't going to die guys come on now

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 11:18:33 AM »
Talk to Verb

about what

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wind waker is the best

maybe in terms of overall artistic merit but breath of the wild in the best from a purely gameplay perspective

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The Flood / Re: The GoT episode 4 discussion thread.
« on: August 07, 2017, 11:16:53 AM »
Bronn is a pretty gay character.
Arya's scene with Brienne was fucking awesome but felt a little cheap. No chance she's Hound-tier after a few months in Braavos.
Jon Snow x Dany is a thing now, I bet.

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 11:12:03 AM »

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 11:09:13 AM »
Eh, idk dude. The entire thing from the main baddie, to Metal Gear for whatever reason, to Big Boss not really being Big Boss and he's actually a better person and it's some retarded metaphor or whatever, is all just terrible. The characters are also just boooooring as hell minus like two people. Troy Baker managed to get the most boring Ocelot ever.

you have the most minute complaints about the game

"yeah i didn't like the story ocelot is really boring"

like wtf

the story in concept is perfectly fine, it's meant to explain the whole 2 big boss's thing. on a metaphorical level where you function as a player proxy, it's fine, too. it's not brilliant by any means but it's certainly better than a story that exists only to service fans and answer questions that were meant to be left unanswered.

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Not a game bad, just takes away from what Metal Gear is given how the entire series has managed to have some memorable boss fight in one game or another, even if the execution wasn't always there.

i think that's just a cancerous mindset to have

breath of the wild didn't have great boss fights either. i'm still going to argue it's the best LoZ game, ever.

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Yeah but they also take away from the overall product because you're wasting so much damn time in the thing. It's atrocious. And the fact the credits roll that spoil whos going to be in that story mission.

fair enough, it detracts from the overall game quality but it's dumb to use it as "evidence" against the gameplay.

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Maybe it was a mistake saying it was gameplay, but from an overall package, it's just such a terrible decision to do and you waste so much time with it. It's like that same animation in a game that looks cool at first, but the fact you have to do it so frequently, it gets horrible and time consuming.

yeah for sure.

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I could go on about how Halo 4 failed as a Halo game, from a story standpoint, all the way to 343 fucking up the aesthetic of it.

if that's your takeaway you completely missed the point of what i was getting at

people don't like halo 4's soundtrack (specifically the soundtrack) because it didn't remind them of marty's work, and lacked the arbitrary """halo feel""" they wanted. it's just nonsense.

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 11:03:20 AM »
The fact that you think expanding upon a "gag" character is an insult is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. Plenty of joke characters get their moment to shine in other media, not sure why this is such a big issue tbh.

gag character expansion isn't inherently a bad thing but the fact that we're expected to suddenly take him seriously is what's insulting

please starting comprehending what i'm saying

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I apologize, the dialogue has been poorly written and over the top in all the metal gear solid games. From the deadpan delivery of snake's lines to the ridiculous over acted lines of the enemies and even raiden's bitchy whiny delivery. I'm not sure you can call any of them good. Serviceable at best, campy and hilarious for the most part. Mgs4 is no different, I don't understand your issue with it if the others are fine. And I'll be fucked if you actually think it was good in five. I'm sure I don't need to remind you of the fiddles and whooooooo plays them.

i just think you're wrong. it's fine in 1 and 2, good in 3, good in peace walker, and great in five. all of them have a few instances of bad lines but that's it.

delivery =/= bad dialogue

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The entire story of mgs2 is ambiguous, you literally know nothing at the end of it and it's been thoroughly discussed and theorized about what actually happens. The ambiguity I was referring to is what exactly Raiden intends on doing. You thought he would give up war, I thought he was done following orders.

you specifically implied the ambiguity stemmed from raiden's family life after the game

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Also you should probably calm down with the intelligence remarks, it reeks of insecurity.

i've had to reexplain extremely basic shit to you several times over the course of the thread

i don't really care what it "reeks" of, i'm just tired of doing it

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 10:56:15 AM »
I have to go to bed and i'll reply tomorrow, but Snake seriously take a chill pill on your arguing. Telling me to kill myself over something you disagree with me on is way too childish.

it's more fun this way
makes you come off a bit autistic that you can't freak out over disagreements for a franchise you enjoy

i'm not freaking out, i just enjoy berrating you

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 02:17:16 AM »
Involvement may have been the wrong word, it explains a lot more about his character and why he behaved the way he did. Knowing Hideo this was his plan from the start. It's more of an "aha" moment than anything else, which again doesn't break his character from being the bumbling idiot.

what i'm saying is that while yes, he does "explain" it, he didn't need to. johnny was a gag character that didn't need to be taken seriously.

you give kojima WAY too much credit if you think he planned this since 1998

seriously man you're just scraping the bottom of the barrel with these "rebuttals"

i know you're smarter than this

right

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I'm thinking you might want to replay 4 and watch his interactions with Maryl. She's the epitome of tsundere the entire time. She obviously cares for him and it's not the one instance he saves her that changes all that.

sounds more like confirmation bias to me than anything else. there's no such thing as subtelty with metal gear characters.

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The story for mgs has always been outrageous and at times poorly written. Be it translation issues or Hideo's ridiculous concepts. To say otherwise is just dishonest.  Serviceable doesn't equal good, but again it doesn't negatively impact the games in my opinion. If anything it's part of the charm.

writing =/= dialogue

writing encompasses everything -- from dialogue, to plot, to foreshadowing -- everything

we were strictly talking about dialogue

but the writing is solid in 1 2 and 3. the dialogue is serviceable (not great but not bad) in 1 and 2. 3 is much better, to the point of "good". 4 is bad. peace walker is good. mgsv is great.

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Therein lies the ambiguity. He does both apparently, but it was always harder for me to accept him becoming a family man as opposed to fighting for his own cause.

dude you're just pulling shit out of your ass at this point

the ambiguity of mgs2's ending did not stem from whether or not raiden started a family jesus christ

give your head a shake what the hell

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 12:28:45 AM »
I'm not seeing the contradiction, he's a joke character that fans of the series enjoyed seeing, fleshing him out in the final chapter isn't insulting in the slightest.

No. Fleshing out a gag character is insulting because he's not meant to be taken seriously. And then it's insulting to expect someone in-universe to be just okay with that, and marry them.

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To be fair it is a bit of a misstep but it adds a lot to his involvement in the original games.

how

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I was also under the assumption that Maryl was attracted to that bumbling side of him.

i don't know what lead you to that conclusion, because she doesn't nothing to point to that in any scene prior to the shoot out.

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You don't marry someone who saves your life once.

hence the insult

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They were on a team for a long time previous, I'm sure one instance wasn't enough to change her perception of him.

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hence the insult

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Bad dialogue is bad dialogue, translation problems included. Doesn't take away from the games imo, but that's what mgs has always been about for me. It's basically an over the top anime that you play.

i'm saying if that's your justification for bad dialogue, i think it's fair to be a little less crticial of it. aside from a few other instance of genuinely bad dialogue, the games are just fine.

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Raiden having a kid is the one thing that should be confusing about this whole scenario. He was raised as a child to be an unthinking, unfeeling soldier. When he said he wanted to pursue his own path I took it more as he was done fighting for others and wanted to fight for his own cause, like his idols. He's no longer a soldier following orders he doesn't believe in, he found something he wanted to fight for.

i don't think you're supposed to take it that way

i think you're expected to think he went off with the real rose to start a family

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 12:24:15 AM »
good job refuting me

Can't refute people who refuse to change their opinions. You're becoming a fine clone of verbatim.

i'll change my opinion when you present reasonable and overwhelming evidence

Suuuuuure

it's happened plenty of times

i can provide eye witness accounts

Will you?

my stance in this thread

http://sep7agon.net/the-flood/should-trump-be-allowed-to-resign


confirm?

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Gaming / Re: "In Defense of MGS4."
« on: August 07, 2017, 12:00:39 AM »
good job refuting me

Can't refute people who refuse to change their opinions. You're becoming a fine clone of verbatim.

i'll change my opinion when you present reasonable and overwhelming evidence

Suuuuuure

it's happened plenty of times

i can provide eye witness accounts

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