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« on: October 09, 2018, 09:49:04 PM »
Hillary was awesome in 2016 and has been awesome her whole life. The backlash against her was pure misogyny.
She could have been a more excitable candidate, though. Like all democrats she wasn't hardline enough. That's all I'm saying. I'd be happy to see her run again.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 08:20:45 PM »
There is literally no way to prove what happened that night and eyewitness testimony from four decades ago is not going to convince an impartial governing body. People get convicted of crimes all the time without that kind of evidence. What exactly are you hoping the FBI will find?
Something to force at least one more person to consider voting to deny Kavanaugh, truthfully. I just wanted to see an actual investigation like what we're seeing Mueller do.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 08:02:54 PM »
I'm a private citizen who is allowed his opinion, and I knew from both Ford's testimony and Kavanaugh infantile reaction that she was telling the truth.
Quoting on mobile is trash.
What are you trying to get at? The "I know" bit? I meant it as "I could tell."
Still implies you know, which you don't. You have a strong feeling, which I share, but you don't know.
The problem with this entire situation is that the only people who know the truth have different stories. Someone is lying and it's not fair to point fingers at the person you suspect on a hunch.
Then again, I'm sure he doesn't care what either of us think.
I don't get your point. I'm not a judge, I'm a person who almost exclusives thinks on his instincts. It's similar to the OJ verdict where everyone knows he did it even though the courts proved him innocent. The "Court of Public Opinion," as it were. If I was a judge, even if I felt as I do, I would still want a full impartial investigation into the matter. Fuck, I still want that and I'm not a judge. I even admitted earlier that if he was proven innocent after a legitimate investigation I would accept those results and eat my words.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 07:57:16 PM »
Why? She's just another cookie cutter neo-lib warmonger. Democrats need an actual genuine leader that will push back against the corruption in US politics, one who will embrace left populist issues like ending the drug war, providing health care, sorting out the horrible student loan debt crisis here, and above all, ending these bullshit proxy wars the US keeps fighting in third world countries.
I'm not gonna hold my breath for anyone like that, however.
I'm just saying that if she had campaigned with this sort of spirit, she would have done a lot better. I think she would have made an aggressively average president, similar to Obama's first two years in office, but her campaign just had no idea what it was doing. I would still prefer a more radical candidate like a Bernie Sanders, but I'd pretty much go with Emperor Kuzco over the Republicans right now.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 07:54:32 PM »
I'm a private citizen who is allowed his opinion, and I knew from both Ford's testimony and Kavanaugh infantile reaction that she was telling the truth.
Quoting on mobile is trash.
What are you trying to get at? The "I know" bit? I meant it as "I could tell."
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« on: October 09, 2018, 07:53:54 PM »
There's an argument to be made about women being already untrusting of the system and potential punishment, regardless of how infrequently it's unjustified, could deter them from speaking up.
We need to tell women to step forward but step forward with evidence
I think this whole rape culture argument in America is just a big misunderstanding. Nobody is saying they won’t listen to women if they come forward but women can’t come forward and expect to be listened to without question
Sometimes there isn't evidence. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You have a very naive understanding of the situation. I would say less than 5% of the "Rape Culture" problem can be attributed to women needing to take more responsibility for reporting and tracking sexual harassment and assault. But that's kind of what the #MeToo movement is about.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:38:58 PM »
There's an argument to be made about women being already untrusting of the system and potential punishment, regardless of how infrequently it's unjustified, could deter them from speaking up.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:25:06 PM »
Damn. Straight-forward, confident, unapologetic. If I was an American and of age at the time, I would have supported her had I seen more of this. Hopefully if she runs again she can channel some of this.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:23:25 PM »
Ok
Just don't pretend as if you didn't already have your mind made up about the guy and you were actually hoping for evidence to change your mind to be presented during the course of this thing. The way you talk about Kavanaugh being a rich white kid, I swear you're on one of those SJW compilations
Because he is a rich white kid who started life on 3rd base.
Guy looks like an extra off of Dead Poets Society.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:10:14 PM »
More replying to Chally without going through the work of actually replying to him.
Equal punishment for false accusations is also a pretty sticky situation. If the police don't find any evidence of rape but nothing to directly refute it who gets punished? I'm sure less women will come forward with allegations if the threat of jail time is a possibility. For a crime that goes mostly unreported, having less women (or men) come forward is not an ideal outcome.
You're right about that. It's a good thing I'm not a lawmaker, because I don't have any answers to what we should do about that. I just know that doing nothing like we did in Ford's case, sends exactly the wrong message to women across the country.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:07:54 PM »
This dude talking like he's 50.
Someone has to be the adult here.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 06:07:23 PM »
Just don't pretend as if you didn't already have your mind made up about the guy and you were actually hoping for evidence to change your mind to be presented during the course of this thing. So in what way does what you quote equate to me saying, "He was an alcoholic, therefore he is a rapist." I'm a private citizen who is allowed his opinion, and I knew from both Ford's testimony and Kavanaugh infantile reaction that she was telling the truth. I've been around the block enough times to know genuine sexual assault victims and guilty predators when I see them. This doesn't mean I don't support an impartial investigation into the matter. I've been wrong once or twice before, I could be again. The way you talk about Kavanaugh being a rich white kid, I swear you're on one of those SJW compilations
 We can caricaturise each other until we're blue in the face, it doesn't get us anywhere.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 05:53:48 PM »
I bloody love bread pudding with caramel and ice cream
You absolute son of a bitch.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 05:41:22 PM »
And it’s not destroying the foundations of American democracy to bring forward sexual assault allegations as a last second attempt to destroy a man who won’t forward your agenda
if someone who sexually assaulted me was up for a Supreme Court nomination simply because he was the only judge willing to pardon the president in the event of impeachment, you can bet your ass i'd come forward and try to inform people on just exactly the kind of person they're putting on the supreme court.
you can mock "guilty until proven innocent" or try to say this was all the Dems doing to try and ruin Kavanaugh's reputation all you want but Ford and the other victims were denied a proper investigation by the FBI. this entire trial was a complete farce.
Why wait 36 years?
I said it earlier: because he was up for a Supreme Court Judge nomination. I don't agree with liberals who say it has nothing to do with timing; it has absolutely everything to do with timing. If I was sexually assaulted and my assaulter was up for one of the most powerful, influential positions available in my country, you can bet your ass I would come forward with my story. There's nothing wrong with that, and it has nothing to do with the legitimacy of her claims.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 05:38:30 PM »
Also, false accusations aren't punished in the US. There's literally no consequences for ruining someone's life.
That's a separate problem and I don't think you'll find one respectable, liberal person who would argue against equal punishment against false accusations.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 05:37:39 PM »
But lets not forget the claim here is rape, not that he drank a lot. You cannot say the man raped a woman because he drank. It's a pathetic show to see you and every other democrat go from rape, to drinking, to he shouldn't be on the SC because he got mad when accused with rape.
Virtually no one is saying this. The fact that he had been (and most likely still is) a black-out alcoholic is a witness to his character, and it's absolutely not a good thing. I'm not going to indulge the rest of your post because you're very obviously a complete imbecile. I will say this pseudo-intellectual conservatism pushed by con-men like JBP, Ben Shapiro, and Watson have done irreversible damage to impressionable young people and we won't soon recover from it.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 02:28:31 PM »
What we got was a woman who made a claim about something that happened decades ago in an unspecified place and unspecified time with no corroborative evidence. A claim she didn’t tell anybody until decades later. We literally have nothing but her word against his yet she’s more believable for some reason? Yes. 1. I know it must be hard to imagine what a life-threatening situation feels like from your parents' basement, but people don't accurately remember anything but a few major details. Their brains go into survival mode and throw away unimportant information. 2. Almost everyone, including Republicans, believe Ford was sexually assaulted. It's pretty obvious she was. The talking point of the Republicans is that she "misremembered" her attacker, which according psychologists simply isn't a thing. One psychologist said she could not remember a single case of a sexual assault victim misremembering a known attacker. 3. Many trials only have the word of the two parties to go off of. That's why we investigate. More women than Ford came through with testimonies, and Kavanaugh's college roommate even said that he was known for getting black-out drunk and aggressive, and although he had never seen it first hand himself, after talking without other contemporaries of the time, had heard some stories that absolutely fit the narrative. I'm not advocating we simply believe all women without evidence. Hell, my brother-in-law and my brother were both accused of sexual assault/harassment (which in Canada, is an even bigger deal) where they were both clearly innocent, but that's why we have rule of law. And I'm not going to sit here and tell you that false accusations don't happen, because apparently about 40% of assault charges turn out to be false, but there needs to be consistent due process at all times because it IS a problem. But Republicans don't care about any of that, they care about giving Democrats the finger and staying in power.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 01:34:35 PM »
Let me ask you what was suppose to be found
DNA evidence?
A confession?
Video tapes?
Would you be satisfied with anything less than Kavanaugh’s arrest?
I would be satisfied with due process. We convict people of crimes all the time without any of those 3 things you suggested. I can confidently say that if they managed to have an actual investigation, and came up with only their dick in their hands as far as evidence, I would accept Kavanaugh's confirmation. I still do not think he would be well-suited for the job for a myriad of reasons (partisanship, temperament, professional career history) but he would at least be a reasonable choice as far as this administration goes. No, instead what we got was a farce of an investigation, and the message to the women of America (who already get criticised when they don't come forward with sexual assault allegations) that they won't be listened to.
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« on: October 09, 2018, 01:22:26 PM »
And it’s not destroying the foundations of American democracy to bring forward sexual assault allegations as a last second attempt to destroy a man who won’t forward your agenda if someone who sexually assaulted me was up for a Supreme Court nomination simply because he was the only judge willing to pardon the president in the event of impeachment, you can bet your ass i'd come forward and try to inform people on just exactly the kind of person they're putting on the supreme court. you can mock "guilty until proven innocent" or try to say this was all the Dems doing to try and ruin Kavanaugh's reputation all you want but Ford and the other victims were denied a proper investigation by the FBI. this entire trial was a complete farce.
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« on: October 08, 2018, 08:49:15 PM »
Also, slightly upset at how they fucked up Eddie's character almost immediately. I liked what they had going up until Spoiler He goes to his ex-fiance's house and she tells him that everything was his fault. If they had used his anger against the Life Foundation/Drake as a Spidey-lite substitute I would have 100% been on board. Instead, he becomes a spastic mess and hostage hero by Venom (another thing that annoyed me) so that he's a more palatable "good guy" character. They even end on the angle that he does literally eats bad guys (which nobody ever really reacts to, because everyone in the film is on Zoloft or some shit). He's made out to be the anti-hero, why not let him BE an anti-hero?
Spoiler At least Venom was a doofus, which they also ruined by having Venom describe himself as "a bit of a loser on his planet" which takes a lot of the terror out of him. I know carnage is stronger than him, but by dropping the bar so low with Venom it's not going to be much of a surprise when he gets his ass kicked. Spoiler If you're not excited for Woody Harrelson Cletus Kassidy you are dead inside. Just when I thought the movie couldn't get any better, they hit you with that godsend of a casting choice.
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« on: October 08, 2018, 04:44:31 PM »
This movie had a 100 million dollar budget and made 80 million in the first day.
We did it, guys. Great work.
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« on: October 08, 2018, 01:05:04 PM »
I watched it today. Couldn't take it seriously at all, and after a couple of minutes I told myself that Eddie, Venom and Elon Musk were all autistic and it became much better after that. It's just a couple of autistic guys going at it.
It's impossible to take seriously. It feels like a parody movie. At least 5 times during my viewing yesterday my brothers turned to me to be like "Why is he acting like that?/Is he drunk?" The post-credits reveal is the highlight of the film, IMO. Just a hilarious setup and casting choice on that one. It's probably my most anticipated superhero film right now.
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« on: October 08, 2018, 11:12:16 AM »
Kavanaugh was only chosen because he said the President could pardon himself in the event he gets impeached
I could see this being true, but generally I won't blindly follow every narrative pushed by the masses without there being convincing evidence.
Wow, what a free thinker you are.
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« on: October 08, 2018, 08:54:46 AM »
I'm not sure how far up your own ass you have to be to not see the fact that Trump sold out America to the Russians or that Kavanaugh was only chosen because he said the President could pardon himself in the event he gets impeached (which he will if Dems win midterms.)
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« on: October 08, 2018, 12:09:41 AM »
From what I’ve read, there is an upward trend since the ‘70s, but it pretty much only affects higher earners (salaried workers). In the states, it’s still disadvantageous for businesses to go above 35-40 for hourly work. Right, because past a certain threshold you have to pay hourly workers more money. Hourly workers aren't making enough to live. Salary workers aren't making enough to live either, but they're doing a little better. Doesn’t this just support my point if they’re spending less on living and America still
has better purchasing power? You'll have to spell it out for me if it does, because that's not really the way I've experienced it. When I travelled to Portugal, I was blown away. They work fewer hours, get more time off, and live more comfortably. I started to think about living there but I thought I had maybe romanticised life in Europe. It wasn't until several of my coworkers confided in me their problems with living here (one was from a northern European country, one was from Romania, and the other was from Egypt.) What they said was pretty much exactly how I felt. It was volunteered information, too, I didn't guide them into it. Yeah sure their currency isn't as powerful as the United States, but these people have close relationships with their families, meaningful work prospects and superb work/life balance. It's really hard for the average North American to imagine because it's divorced from what we experience. In America it's just the shitty rat-race to make enough money to stay above water, where in other places that's not really the case. We're a depressed society that relies on substances and escapist experiences to get by.
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« on: October 07, 2018, 11:40:20 PM »
Are you sure that number isn't including part-time workers and the unemployed? 35 is roughly the current work week, including them. Not sure to be honest with you. Just what I've heard from older generations. Accounting for this discrepancy, America is still doing better than these countries.
https://www.worlddata.info/cost-of-living.php
That fails to take into account the cultural differences that drastically affect the cost of living there. Most people live in homes with large families, it's not really a "thing" to move out on your own. Everyone kind of pitches in where they need to.
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« on: October 07, 2018, 11:00:51 PM »
Just as hilarious the second time
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« on: October 07, 2018, 10:54:46 PM »
I like how you can say that without proof. It's obvious from the Ford's testimony and witness accounts of Kavanaugh's personality during the time period. You're right, he shouldn't have gotten angry. I mean it's not like the main opposition against him getting the position is a bogus story from 36 years ago saying he's sexually harassed someone. Yeah, I can't possibly see why he would be mad over that. It doesn't matter if it's "bogus" or not (it's not), regardless of the situation your job is to remain calm as a judge and critically evaluate the situation. And abusive behavior? Come on, this is ridiculous and you know it. He was angry, and rightfully so, and you think that's a sign of him being abusive? Yes, abusive people get loud and angry when things don't go their way, and then apologise and act like the victim of their own suffering to get their actual victims to feel sorry for them. It's textbook abusive behaviour. Even if he didn't get the job but his name was cleared, the damage has already been done, he can't go anywhere in public without people going "Oh he's that rapist" not just him but his family has to deal with the shit as well. We'd all be pretty fucking angry if we were in his position and anyone saying they wouldn't be is bullshitting. So the solution is giving someone everyone thinks is a rapist the job? Gotcha. I like Peterson Retard alert. If he's completely right for the job why shouldn't he keep his position? ...I just explained why he shouldn't keep his position... lessening the political divide and clearing his name. All him stepping down would do is appease the people who have worked nonstop for the last month to drag his name through the mud. His name should be dragged through the mud. Barring the rape allegations, the dude is your typical white conservative prep school kid whose never known real consequences and has had his entire life handed to him on a silver platter. He's done nothing of value or significance his entire life except drink like a fiend and pay-off girls he's assaulted. Anyone Trump nominates is going to go through just as much of a shit show and the seat would be left vacant until who the fuck knows. That's not fair to the people qualified who might be nominated, it's not fair to the Senate (both parties) having to repeat the whole process, and it's not fair to the American people having to watch it. I'd rather the seat be left vacant than filled with the only person who thinks the President can pardon himself when he's accused of treason. Anyone on the conservative side of American politics right now, even considering the left's MANY faults, is an absolute fucking brainlet that enables rapists, male entitlement, and treason.
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« on: October 07, 2018, 05:05:55 PM »
No. Something like that would've been extremely hard to prove the day after it happened, good fucking luck finding something 36 years later. With that said, he's innocent until proven guilty and all the people saying that doesn't matter because it's not an actual trial can piss off, it's the principle/idea/spirit of the thing.
Do you think there’s enough evidence to be suspicious or even condemn him? I mean he clearly did it, but the main reason he should've been denied for the position was the way he handled the accusations. The entitled anger of a rich white boy who's never known real consequences his entire life. And then 3 days later he tries to apologise for his emotional behaviour. People who have known abusive people in their own lives can see this behaviour coming from miles away; act abusive, then apologise and victimise yourself to make the actual victim feel sorry for you. He's unfit for the position regardless of the allegations' truth. Peterson had an interesting take on this (that he's now getting flak for from his fellow conservatives) that if Kavanaugh was truly right for the job, upon confirmation, he should have stepped down knowing how polarising he was. This would've have cleared his reputation in most people's eyes and have worked to lessen the divide between parties right now. But no, he knows the only reason he's there is to push the "Trump can pardon himself" initiative knowing that there will most likely be a democratic senate come December that will push to impeach.
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« on: October 07, 2018, 02:47:47 PM »
Probably the most physically gut-wrenched I've felt watching American politics. These politicians have absolutely no principles whatsoever. It's disgusting.
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