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1921
I don't know who any of these people are aside from dunkey.

How do you know who Dunkey is but you dont know who Leah is

Its his girlfriend with the mouse voice
I only ever really watched his halo videos. I'm not all too keen on his other content.

weirdo
I actually don't watch that much gaming content on YT outside of stuff that breaks down the design processes and development side of things. Most of my channels are stuff talking about science and all that cool stuff.


WEEEEEEIIIIIIRRRRRRDDDOOOOOOO

1922
I don't know who any of these people are aside from dunkey.

How do you know who Dunkey is but you dont know who Leah is

Its his girlfriend with the mouse voice
I only ever really watched his halo videos. I'm not all too keen on his other content.

weirdo

1923
I don't know who any of these people are aside from dunkey.

How do you know who Dunkey is but you dont know who Leah is

Its his girlfriend with the mouse voice

1924
Both, with leanings one way or the other based on the individual actions of the explorer in question.

Okay, so you have Columbus and Cortez on the evil side of the spectrum. Who would you say could champion the benevolent side of European exploration in the Americas?

The vikings. Some of the early Dutch explorers.

Not everyone showed up to conquer

The Vikings were up around Greenland and Newfoundland, no? Both islands where indiginous people didn't live.

1925
the videos/people they make fun of are just depressing.

It's no different from the older videos he used to do. Jake Paul, the 34-year-old Virgin, the Human Mail Challenge... the only one that I would call "depressing" is Skippy (the virgin guy) who's actually one of the sweestest guys ever. They had him on the podcast too and he's not the least bit worried or depressed on anything.

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I also hate podcasts it's just a bunch of rambling usually. I haven't seen a single one of theirs tbb but I doubt I'm missing anything.

I usually feel the same way but his podcast is really entertaining. I feel like in another life Ethan would have been a journalist or political commentary comedian of some kind but because of his tourettes he never thought he'd be able to do it. Now that he's in this position where he can be professional, he is; his interviews are really well done and have an excellent mix of realness and humour that's pretty enthralling. Honestly you should check out some of them, they're really not bad at all.

1926
There's historical evidence to suggest that the Native Americans also conquered and killed an entirely different group of humans situated in America when they arrived via the Bering land bridge from Siberia.

Does that excuse the atrocities committed by the European settlers? No. But they're not the only group of people with historical blood on their hands. Humans are opportunistically evil by nature. Colonisation, much like anything else, can have its positive and negative impacts on a region.

Yeah, I know. And even beyond that, the natives routinely fought with other tribes for whatever they could get, using often grotesque methods. Champlain tried to bargain with the Huron people but their coexistence was contingent on the defeat of the Iroquois.

That's a discussion for another day, though.

1927
There's no reason to treat those two concepts as mutually exclusive. Their actions can be viewed as morally repugnant from a modern viewpoint while also recognizing the impacts they had on the world.

Well the "reason" for treating them as mutually exclusive is because that was the way my teacher formed the question for one of my classes. He asked, "Should the activities of the great European explorers in the Age of Exploration be viewed as positive historical achievements or crimes against humanity?"

I'd already written my response but the online discussion I was instructed to take part in was pretty lively so I figured it might make for an interested thread topic here.

1928
how does he always get these amazing guests

Yeah it's pretty cool. If you're on twitter you can see that they're at Disney World with Dunkey and Leah and it's super awesome. I can't wait to see Dunkey outside of his element in the podcast's setting.


1929
Fuck that's gay h3h3 has been garbage for a while now

?

His channel is still pretty good dude.

1930
If anyone has any interesting videos or reads that are on the topic of European exploration that might be useful to the thread, I encourage you to post them.

1931
Off the top of my head, Hudson and Cartier.

What made their approach different from that of Columbus?

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Cortes I have a problem with calling especially evil though, given that what he was doing would have been perfectly normal in a european or north aftrican conflict too.

I was just trying to position him for the sake of framing the question, anyway.

1932
There's still slavery in Africa and Arab countries. So...yeah...

I'm more talking about the Americas.

1933
Deterministically speaking, nobody really deserves any credit for any discovery or invention ever made. Had Newton not revolutionized physics, someone else probably would've in his stead. Maybe decades later, maybe a century later, but we would've done it. It's just the way we are.

The United States constitution could only have been written the way it is by the people who wrote it, who were a product of English colonisation. It could have been a very different situation had the Americas not been in the exact situation they were that allowed for the constitution to exist in its current state.

Even if I agree with your point, we would still lose some relatively large sum of time to less revolutionary minds in Europe. Weariness of a monarchy (a concept which wouldn't lose virtually all its meaning until the first World War some 200 years later), leading to a democratic election process and the independence and freedoms that the constitution [tries to] guarantee eventually led to the Civil Rights movement, the abolition of slavery (granted this took longer than America's contemporaries but for other reasons) and a bunch of other humanistic endeavors that had the constitution not been written (and not set an example for the rest of the world) would have taken far longer to achieve, if it was achieved at all. You can't sleep on the precedent the founding fathers set with the constitution.

1934
Both, with leanings one way or the other based on the individual actions of the explorer in question.

Okay, so you have Columbus and Cortez on the evil side of the spectrum. Who would you say could champion the benevolent side of European exploration in the Americas?

1935
Just thought some of you might be interested in that.

1936
Serious / What should the activities of European explorers be viewed as?
« on: October 10, 2017, 09:41:57 AM »
Should they be seen as historical achievements or crimes against humanity? On the one hand you have the absolutely monstrous treatment and abuse of the original Americans but on the other hand you have incredible inventions, scifentific discoveries and and the settlement of what would eventually become the United States (which I think should be considered one of the most historically important events -- ever).

Where do you stand?

1937
The Flood / Re: Dragon Ball Thread (DBS episode 110)
« on: October 10, 2017, 08:51:09 AM »
ScrewAttack be like




1938
The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: October 10, 2017, 08:26:56 AM »
So I'm trying to settle down on an art tablet but I'm not sure which model to go with. Big Boss suggested this one to me awhile ago but personally I'd like something with a bit larger screen.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071R3N6ZJ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=18AP3PFM0BPOE&coliid=I3KB25HFPLW4AM&psc=1

What do you guys think?
I'm not sure about that one. I've never heard of that brand or seen any reviews on them. I suppose if Big Boss is recommending it then it can't be all that bad.

I have a Ugee HK1560 that I've enjoyed for about 3 months now. No problems with it so far and the installation was pretty straight forward and simple. It's a 15.6' display. It's definitely more expensive than that one, though. I got mine for around 300 usd but I see one on ebay now for 329 usd.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ugee+hk1560&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj573h6eLWAhVjzoMKHe8wCycQ_AUICigB&biw=1360&bih=604

Geez, that's expensive. Gotta start saving up, then, because that looks like pretty muche exactly what I want.

1939
The Flood / Re: It's been a while - Post a picture of yourself.
« on: October 10, 2017, 08:25:35 AM »
What sep7agon thinks they look like
What they actually look like

That's quite generous.

1940
The Flood / Re: Wtf nvm
« on: October 09, 2017, 07:25:03 PM »
feel free to respond or not i wrote my first post before the edit

1941
if ur thinking about other girls while youre with one then somethings not adding up yknow. though in my experience that has more to do with the individual being a bit fickle rather than the girl not suiting your needs. you know where youre at better than i do, i trust your judgement.

1942
The Flood / Re: Going to the Netherlands in November.
« on: October 09, 2017, 07:20:16 PM »
best of luck man just try not to get taken for a ride too much

1943
The Flood / Re: If everyone is equal, then explain downs syndrome
« on: October 09, 2017, 01:46:00 PM »
If everyone's equal, explain Loaf

1944
The Flood / Re: My collection is up-to-date.
« on: October 09, 2017, 01:37:25 PM »
Goddamn. So far I'm just collecting the 3-in-1 Dragon Ball books but the shop I went to was specifically missing the next one I needed.

I've had the 3 in 1s forever. Theyre great, the picture quality is exceptional and they colour some of the chapters for kicks.

I want to collect the Colour versions too but they've only covered the Frieza saga.

1945
The Flood / Re: Going to the Netherlands in November.
« on: October 09, 2017, 01:35:15 PM »
What for?

Sort of getting back with a girl I knew.

Whaaaat

Same girl from before?

1946
The Flood / Re: Going to the Netherlands in November.
« on: October 09, 2017, 12:29:16 PM »
What for?

1947
The Flood / Re: My collection is up-to-date.
« on: October 09, 2017, 12:16:43 PM »
Dragonball I will agree with, but Naruto is trash.

Naruto is leagues better than Dragon Ball. It's not even a contest.

1948
The Flood / Re: My collection is up-to-date.
« on: October 09, 2017, 02:37:55 AM »
also did you guys know theres a literal genre of anime called "harem anime"

and funimation has a subsection of anime labelled "fan service"

this is the most shameless fucking shit ive ever seen. im sticking with shonen.

1949
The Flood / Re: Blade Runner 2049 Was Fuckin' GOOD
« on: October 09, 2017, 02:35:14 AM »
I prefer a good ol fashioned anime any day of the week

1950
The Flood / Re: Art Hub
« on: October 09, 2017, 12:19:35 AM »
So I'm trying to settle down on an art tablet but I'm not sure which model to go with. Big Boss suggested this one to me awhile ago but personally I'd like something with a bit larger screen.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B071R3N6ZJ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=18AP3PFM0BPOE&coliid=I3KB25HFPLW4AM&psc=1

What do you guys think?

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