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« on: October 20, 2017, 02:43:08 PM »
Passion into a game doesn't exactly make it good if the general direction is shit. No one ever said anything differently. Passion in a game that isn't very good is still preferable to a soulless cash grab. A game that has people who give a shit making it will always turn out better than something that exists to purely make money.
1832
« on: October 20, 2017, 11:58:15 AM »
I care if the game looks good. Almost everybody does.
Which is fine (even if I disagree). But do you honestly think that individual strands of hair on a mustache and skin pores make the game look THAT much better? Especially when the consoles they're designed for can't demonstrate that work in a high enough resolution? Do you not think the effort could have been better used elsewhere on something that actually matters?
1833
« on: October 20, 2017, 11:53:43 AM »
relevant
Don't be an animator if that isn't what you want to do. What do you expect? You have to make very detailed games these days. If you're not passionate about making games go do something else.
So what are you trying to say
What do you mean
I'm just trying to understand what you're getting at with your response.
What didn't you understand? I'm saying if you're not passionate about creating a game, do something else.
But how are individual strands of hair and pores related to games whatsoever? That's the point. If we, the consumers don't care, and the animators don't care, why do it
1834
« on: October 20, 2017, 11:39:53 AM »
relevant
Don't be an animator if that isn't what you want to do. What do you expect? You have to make very detailed games these days. If you're not passionate about making games go do something else.
So what are you trying to say
What do you mean
I'm just trying to understand what you're getting at with your response.
1835
« on: October 20, 2017, 11:13:30 AM »
relevant
Don't be an animator if that isn't what you want to do. What do you expect? You have to make very detailed games these days. If you're not passionate about making games go do something else.
So what are you trying to say
1836
« on: October 20, 2017, 11:11:45 AM »
Most games have a lot of heart put into them, I think. I don't know maybe I'm misunderstanding you but from what I'm gathering is that you're saying most of these people are just going through the motions.
Essentially, yeah that's what I'm saying. Unless the entire team is energized and on-board with the game (small teams tend to do this a lot better) where there's a communal sense of direction and scope for the project you get people sort of aimlessly doing grunt work who then show it to their boss who shows it to their boss who shows it to the executives that approve shit after endless market research and other bullshit. In the case of things like CoD so many of the textures and assets are just reused from however many years ago so there's even less soul than you might think.
1837
« on: October 20, 2017, 11:07:09 AM »
relevant
1838
« on: October 20, 2017, 11:05:34 AM »
Once you get used to good dark chocolate milk chocolate is gross.
Why would you ever get used to eating compacted dirt
because i avoid eating dairy
Vegan?
yeah
That's ok but I don't see the appeal of bitter candy to sweet candy otherwise
Not all dark chocolate is bitter. You gotta buy the good stuff.
What’s the good stuff
This stuff is really good
I tried their 9O% dark chocolate and it was brittle and hella bitter
What are you even suppose to taste with this stuff
IDK, the cocoa I guess I don't eat a lot of sweets but I used to before. It took a little bit to get adjusted to the taste, like coffee.
1839
« on: October 20, 2017, 10:55:32 AM »
Once you get used to good dark chocolate milk chocolate is gross.
Why would you ever get used to eating compacted dirt
because i avoid eating dairy
Vegan?
yeah
That's ok but I don't see the appeal of bitter candy to sweet candy otherwise
Not all dark chocolate is bitter. You gotta buy the good stuff.
What’s the good stuff
This stuff is really good
1840
« on: October 20, 2017, 10:51:21 AM »
What do you mean it's all the same?
i mean these industries all have the same work ethic at the lowest level.
1841
« on: October 20, 2017, 10:46:43 AM »
Deci why are you doing this? Everybody's just laughing at you. Why couldn't you just come back and be normal for once in your life.
I'm not Deci.
He's this scared of snake putting his videos back up.
oh yeah, he should go ahead and do that now
I already did it a few days ago.
1842
« on: October 20, 2017, 10:44:23 AM »
Once you get used to good dark chocolate milk chocolate is gross.
Why would you ever get used to eating compacted dirt
because i avoid eating dairy
Vegan?
yeah
That's ok but I don't see the appeal of bitter candy to sweet candy otherwise
Not all dark chocolate is bitter. You gotta buy the good stuff.
1843
« on: October 20, 2017, 10:28:08 AM »
Once you get used to good dark chocolate milk chocolate is gross.
Why would you ever get used to eating compacted dirt
because i avoid eating dairy
Vegan?
yeah
1844
« on: October 20, 2017, 10:21:33 AM »
Once you get used to good dark chocolate milk chocolate is gross.
Why would you ever get used to eating compacted dirt
because i avoid eating dairy
1845
« on: October 20, 2017, 10:02:47 AM »
Respectable to a degree but ultimately clunky and overrated.
What is respectable to a degree lmao it's a game
You don't respect the people who make good games? It's clear the CD Projekt Red put a lot of soul into the game but I don't think it resulted in a stellar product. That's why its "respectable to a degree."
Nah it just didn't make sense the way you said "respectable". Most games are respectable.
It makes perfect sense, and most games are just products instead of something that people care about making, which aren't respectable.
I don't really agree with that. There's a lot of passion put into games.
Not enough to be respectable
I mean do you think the guys who shit out another call of duty or battlefield or far cry every year really care all that much
its all just soulless which is why i feel the need to specifically point out developers who clearly do care
I'd say a lot of the individual developers are passionate about the specific work they create for these games, regardless of what series they're working on. It's still something that they have created, be it art or programming or some other aspect.
maybe, but even if it turned out to NOT to be like every other industry in the world (where the majority of workers put as little or slightly more than minimum effort into their work), the games still don't feel like they've had a lot of soul put into them.
even if we establish that all low level individual developers love their work and slave away all day to realise their boss's vision, if every developer studio has that, the the bar for what's impressive has just been raised. its important that the high ups in the companies care more because thats what makes the game feel like a love letter.
Working at a video game company isn't just some job, dude. They're all passionate about making games, be it call of duty or a much better game. Are the cod developers as passionate as the Dark Souls or Mario developers? Probably not, and it shows. But to say they're there just slaving away like it's some minimum wage job is bullshit.
i never said it was "some job", i said it was just like every other industry out there. movies, tv shows. its all the same.
1846
« on: October 20, 2017, 09:24:07 AM »
Respectable to a degree but ultimately clunky and overrated.
What is respectable to a degree lmao it's a game
You don't respect the people who make good games? It's clear the CD Projekt Red put a lot of soul into the game but I don't think it resulted in a stellar product. That's why its "respectable to a degree."
Nah it just didn't make sense the way you said "respectable". Most games are respectable.
It makes perfect sense, and most games are just products instead of something that people care about making, which aren't respectable.
I don't really agree with that. There's a lot of passion put into games.
Not enough to be respectable
I mean do you think the guys who shit out another call of duty or battlefield or far cry every year really care all that much
its all just soulless which is why i feel the need to specifically point out developers who clearly do care
I'd say a lot of the individual developers are passionate about the specific work they create for these games, regardless of what series they're working on. It's still something that they have created, be it art or programming or some other aspect.
maybe, but even if it turned out to NOT to be like every other industry in the world (where the majority of workers put as little or slightly more than minimum effort into their work), the games still don't feel like they've had a lot of soul put into them. even if we establish that all low level individual developers love their work and slave away all day to realise their boss's vision, if every developer studio has that, the the bar for what's impressive has just been raised. its important that the high ups in the companies care more because thats what makes the game feel like a love letter.
1847
« on: October 19, 2017, 06:47:08 PM »
Respectable to a degree but ultimately clunky and overrated.
What is respectable to a degree lmao it's a game
You don't respect the people who make good games? It's clear the CD Projekt Red put a lot of soul into the game but I don't think it resulted in a stellar product. That's why its "respectable to a degree."
Nah it just didn't make sense the way you said "respectable". Most games are respectable.
It makes perfect sense, and most games are just products instead of something that people care about making, which aren't respectable.
I don't really agree with that. There's a lot of passion put into games.
Not enough to be respectable I mean do you think the guys who shit out another call of duty or battlefield or far cry every year really care all that much its all just soulless which is why i feel the need to specifically point out developers who clearly do care
1849
« on: October 19, 2017, 04:01:55 PM »
1850
« on: October 19, 2017, 03:43:39 PM »
Respectable to a degree but ultimately clunky and overrated.
What is respectable to a degree lmao it's a game
You don't respect the people who make good games? It's clear the CD Projekt Red put a lot of soul into the game but I don't think it resulted in a stellar product. That's why its "respectable to a degree."
Nah it just didn't make sense the way you said "respectable". Most games are respectable.
It makes perfect sense, and most games are just products instead of something that people care about making, which aren't respectable.
1851
« on: October 19, 2017, 03:40:30 PM »
Respectable to a degree but ultimately clunky and overrated.
What is respectable to a degree lmao it's a game
You don't respect the people who make good games? It's clear the CD Projekt Red put a lot of soul into the game but I don't think it resulted in a stellar product. That's why its "respectable to a degree."
1852
« on: October 19, 2017, 03:20:09 PM »
Respectable to a degree but ultimately clunky and overrated.
1853
« on: October 19, 2017, 12:49:29 PM »
on the one hand games haven't increased in price since the 90's despite inflation basically halfing the value of $60 AND they've become more expensive to develop
so i mean it's not hard to see why companies try their best to make more of a profit. would you rather be paying for a complete game where it's not guaranteed to be good for $120 bucks or would you rather pay $60 bucks for a game that might be good and then if it is you can spend money to buy the rest of it later? neither sound appealing.
microtransactions solve this issue in theory but it really depends on how you execute it... weapon skins and cosmetics are the best way to go about it, but once you start affecting things like drop rates you jump the gun because those can be directly altered by the developers to incentivise spending more money
i honestly don't know where i stand on stuff like this but it's not just because companies are more greedy than ever like a lot of people try to pretend it is.
1854
« on: October 19, 2017, 08:42:07 AM »
Once you get used to good dark chocolate milk chocolate is gross.
1855
« on: October 18, 2017, 03:53:31 PM »
I expect no less from someone who likes Warframe
go buy some oversized tshirts
1856
« on: October 18, 2017, 12:24:27 PM »
Thanks for the spoilers guys sheesh
theres a spoiler tag on the thread.
1857
« on: October 18, 2017, 07:45:56 AM »
Yeah, I don't really agree with your criticisms, but I think the idea is supposed to be that Kay was a clone of Deckard's child. They said earlier in the film that Deckard's child was a male and there was a female clone made that died. However, it was revealed that this was a lie made up in order to cover their tracks, and the child was a female, so the clone must have been a male. Kay was given Deckard's child's memories to reinforce the cover.
Is that what it was supposed to be? A clone? So he really did have those memories. That still makes him special though so IDK why they felt the need to be lke "Nah we all thought we were the one but we're all just ordinary".
1858
« on: October 18, 2017, 07:44:43 AM »
the more i think about it, the more i see this film as the industry's equivalent of destiny: hightened audio and visuals (though the audio does most of the work here) carry the film to, what i would consider to be, undeserved praise by masquerading as something its not.
don't get me wrong, it's proportionately better and doesn't have the same flaws, hence why i actually like the film, but the analogy still works.
1859
« on: October 18, 2017, 07:06:12 AM »
Wallace literally saved humanity with his GMO farming and is the biggest supplier of replicant technology, so it's understandable he'd have god complex tier dialogue. His acting was one of the best parts of the movie. Dunno why this was a deal breaker for you.
the guy takes a dramatic pause during every scene he's in to subsitute good acting. just because it makes sense for him to have dumb dialogue doesnt really make it okay. i think he was far and away the weakest part of the film.
1860
« on: October 17, 2017, 10:47:23 PM »
I mean I see people praising the world building in this movie and I just can't help but question it. This isn't "excellent" world building, it's slightly above average and nowhere near where a film like this should be. Considering the plot, I'd say the film could have used a little less world building if it meant a bit more focus on other aspects.
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