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« on: September 04, 2015, 10:31:47 PM »
Spoiler I feel betrayed.
Kaz's lines at the end sum up my feelings perfectly.
What lines?
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« on: September 04, 2015, 10:31:18 PM »
Spoiler Remember how we all thought MGSV would show his descent into villainy? I'm still wondering why he turned bad, it doesn't really explain it. Why was he at Zanzibarland, picking up where Venom Snake left off?
Spoiler Yeah, and I'm extremely disappointed we didn't get to witness that.
The reason he was at Zanzibarland:
After the events of Peace Walker, when Big Boss finally took his rightful name, he realised The Boss had betrayed him. After that, he didn't care about pursuing her vision -- he cared about a world where soldiers believed in what they were fighting for.
Essentially, MSF was meant to be the peace-keeping organisation to pursue her vision, Diamond Dogs, Outer Heaven and Zanzibarland were meant to engulf the planet in never-ending war, and contradict her vision.
That's something the games never stressed enough. You have to look between the lines and stuff.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 10:11:11 PM »
Spoiler Zero was trying to redeem himself the whole time and reconcile with his old friend, and Big Boss ended him thinking he was still just a tired old monster who never realized how much harm he caused. It's rather heartrending.
Spoiler MGS4 already established that, though.
I hate how MGSV paints Big Boss as the "good guy", though. He's not. Peace Walker was supposed to establish that, after he felt like The Boss betrayed him. And MGSV was supposed to show us his fall from grace as a good guy.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 09:59:25 PM »
Plotmaster isn't done yet, right?
That Josh dude. There's no way he's done yet. They both know Spoiler the twist at the end, though. Aria wouldn't be anywhere near finished. So Aria TBlocks Luciana SpartanT...? Catzilla...? He doesn't even own it yet but still. Not sure if he knows anything.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 09:57:50 PM »
Spoiler Venom Snake goes rogue, decides to build Outer Heaven into a military fortress, and Big Boss sends David in to kill him?
Here's how I like to think things went down: Spoiler The year is sometime between 1985~1994. Diamond Dogs's Mother Base has been known as "Outer Heaven" since the late 1980's. Venom Snake, or "Big Boss" as the world knows him, has been mostly going slowly crazy as the effects of his psychosis take their toll.
The real Big Boss is ready to come out of hiding. He sends Ahab a tape, labeled "From The Man Who Sold The World", explaining everything from the plane crash in 1974 until now.
Venom Snake, a tortured man already on the brink of insanity, finally snaps as he realises his whole life was a lie. What was once an attempt to create an Army without a Nation is now an all-out sprint to Global warfare.
Big Boss, who already knew about Outer Heaven's nuclear capabilities, informs Ahab that if he doesn't remove the nuke, he'll regret it (which is why Operation Intrude N313 is on the back of the cassette -- it's meant to be a deterrence. This sparks the event known as the Outer Heaven Uprising (Metal Gear 1).
Big Boss sends his own son, Solid Snake, into the battlefield knowing full-well what he's up against. He wins, and Big Boss goes onto form Zanzibarland with Gray Fox.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 09:37:55 PM »
So
who hasn't beaten the game yet?
Beaten = seen the ending of Chapter 2
14617
« on: September 04, 2015, 09:21:26 PM »
I'm just saying there's no reason to make the distinction between the Snakes from a gameplay perspective.
I was joking about that.
Oh.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 09:17:46 PM »
Plot immortality aside, he makes the other Snakes look like they're made of tissue paper.
I mean sure but all the other Snakes have had their fair share of shit thrown their way. Liquid was the superior clone so it makes sense, I'm just saying there's no reason to make the distinction between the Snakes from a gameplay perspective. I would welcome the chance to play as Liquid. Honestly I've been thinking about it and I think a lot of hardcore MGS fans could come up with a better plot than MGSV. I don't necessarily think it would be too hard for Konami to take the KojiPro team, add in the guy who wrote the Peace Walker cassette tapes for the script/writing, and have someone else come up with the plot for the game. I really think they could do a lot with what Kojima has done, and maybe treat it with a little more respect than MGSV got. My biggest fear is that Konami doesn't do anything but mobile and pachinko machines with the IP. That's got me so worried. Plus I get the feelings there's going to be a lot of DLC for this game.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 09:07:56 PM »
I want a game from Liquid's point of view. I guess it wouldn't work, though, given Liquid is indestructible and nobody wants to play a game they can't lose.
Just as indestructable as the other Snakes as well. I mean really, everyone is invincible until they die.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 09:02:11 PM »
Speaking of "new Kojima" if they could make another game like TPP, with a better story following the events of this game, or even Spoiler following what happened to Jack I would be happy. Essentially, I want MGSV's gameplay MGS4's story-length MGS3's story quality MGS1's acting MGS2's polish just get the guy who wrote PO and someone who worked very closely with Kojima to build upon that foundation
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« on: September 04, 2015, 08:24:27 PM »
Spoiler Well Code talker says they got the Parasite research by studying The End's remains. Since he was part of the Cobras and they all had powers too, it's just a hunch that they all had it.
I suppose we'll never know, but that seems like a reasonable assumption to make.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 08:11:06 PM »
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« on: September 04, 2015, 08:10:01 PM »
On Eli Response Indeed. Plotmaster also pointed out that the Genome Soldier's genetics were all wonky in MGS1 because they used Ahab's DNA instead of Big Boss's to create those soldiers. That's why Liquid needed the body of Big Boss in MGS1.
An astute observation, I must say. On Ocelot Response An interesting point. I don't see why Ocelot would even need to forget that Ahab isn't Big Boss.
The timeline seems to imply that Ahab learned of the truth during the Outer Heaven Uprising. On Strangelove Response I think it was meant to imply that Hal has Strangelove's genes, but The Boss's memes. Strangelove had a romantic relationship with Joy so it makes sense that she would instill a lot of her values into her son. On Parasites Spoiler How do they explain the Cobra Unit? On the Third Child
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« on: September 04, 2015, 07:56:52 PM »
As much as I like tits and ass it's rather disturbing to get treated to an eyeful of Skull rack and booty. Bleh.
wat
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« on: September 04, 2015, 07:56:28 PM »
You forgot Substistence for the PS2. Which I have. Yay. I completely forgot that Subsistence existed... I have the original version. That means the only canon game I don't have is Peace Walker, GZ, and PP.
Fortunately all of those are on the 360 PS3, which I assume you have...? PW is $20, GZ is probably the same (buy it used for cheaper) and TPP is obviously 60.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 07:35:22 PM »
So I decided it's finally time for me to play MGS1, haven't played a ton into it, just finished the part where you meet Meryl.
Despite the aged gameplay I'm really enjoying it so far, I'm used to the controls already and the audio is fantastic.
Atta boy. Best in the series IMO
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« on: September 04, 2015, 07:12:34 PM »
Holy fuck that infiltration was intense.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:52:54 PM »
Which game has MG and MG2 ported into them, again?
Snake Eater HD Snake Eater Legacy Both of which are on the PS3 HD is on the Xbox 360
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:46:24 PM »
Speaking of which, I recall you and Rinev saying you didn't know if you should play this game, because you haven't played any of the others... I think you specifically, because of your experience with the earlier MG games, would actually appreciate this more than most. I'd definitely recommend it.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:45:08 PM »
Holy crap. Subsitence makes it so hard.
I fucking love subsistence. It's the best of the modifiers. SO satisfying when you beat it with perfect score.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:35:24 PM »
Man, I wanna be Demon Snake so bad.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:28:22 PM »
All of them, except the ones with boosted difficulty.
So the disqualifies any missions with the "Extreme", "Total Stealth", and "Subsistence" prefix?
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:25:59 PM »
Your status is 'Hero' and it enables you to infiltrate all rival FOBs, even ones who have nukes.
Is there any visual difference to Big Boss? And is there a trophy for it? Trying to decide if I should just go all demon right now or get the trophy first.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:24:18 PM »
Spoiler Also there's a Sniper Wolf uniform for Quiet.
Yeah, I have that one already. 'Complete all missions (except those on high difficulty levels) with an S-Rank.'
What does that mean, though? All of the original 30 missions? Or all 50 minus the rehashed missions?
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:22:42 PM »
I'll have a look. It says for most players, choosing to develop a nuke will instantly, or put you very close to Demon Snake.
Hmm, interesting. I was already planning on making one, but this adds a little more incentive. If there's a Demon Snake, is there an... Angel Snake? Something for getting maximum heroism?
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:15:10 PM »
Spoiler Can your guide tell me the requirements for Raiden's costume?
Also, yeah I just completed that side quest. Also, have you guys been through the door in the medical platform? There's a... surprise. Only just found out by looking at my guide
It just says you need the 'Grand Master Certificate'
Doesn't tell you how to get that, huh? Is there a "Key Items" section of the guide that shows you how to get the various items?
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:14:28 PM »
Turns out, you get the horn by doing the bad decisions in the game and having low heroism. And when it is at its lowest point you will get permenantly covered in blood.
Guess I'm going full lethal, then. I want that horn badly.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 06:10:43 PM »
Spoiler Okay, how do I develop the nuke? And where the heck is the animal platform?
The animal platform You need to be in your ACC, and click "Return to Motherbase." From there, you will be shown a screen with all your platforms. In the top right, you'll see "Press Triangle to visit Animals Platform." I think you need to speak with Miller about that first, though. It's a conversation that appears after you've captured a set amount of wildlife. He'll tell you that the NGOs are paying for the entire thing because they don't have enough room to house all the animals you've collected. Spoiler Nuke:
>iDroid
>Mother Base
>Resources
>Nuclear Weapon
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« on: September 04, 2015, 05:58:45 PM »
I'm so confused...
Beat the game, man.
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« on: September 04, 2015, 05:58:21 PM »
Please tell me it isn't what Plotmaster said it was...
Truth be told, it left more questions than answers. You'll just have to figure it out for yourself. Unless you want me to tell you..
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