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12901
« on: October 13, 2015, 10:53:57 AM »
I could never hate my other half.
12902
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:49:04 AM »
It's such a tiresome and petty way of arguing.
tbh I think it's the best way of arguing but w/e I'll play by your rules.
12903
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:47:02 AM »
I would rather the game cost more. It's more honest, and makes people question whether they should buy the game or not. In Battlefront's case, they shouldn't. Because it's obviously rushed and unfinished.
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Actually I'd rather the game's content be priced reasonably, and Battlefront simply isn't. It's probably not worth $90. But a game like TW3, that's packed with content? Yeah, that being $90 seems good with me. The thing is, the devs provide 15 free DLC packs for the player. If more developers practiced this, we'd have a better gaming atmosphere then we have now.
I will say that if the DLC content isn't finished, it's okay to charge for it later. But a season's pass is unethical because you're paying for content you don't get when you buy it. It's worse than the "Halo 5 not shipping with forge" debacle.
As for the "positive reinforcement" (lol) shit...
If no one complained and only voted with their wallets, the publishers wouldn't know what people were upset about. "Whining" is necessary.
Other AAA companies may do this. My point is that we shouldn't accept it at all, from anyone. Be honest and reasonable with your game's prices. A lot of people doing a shitty thing doesn't make it okay.
And it's not like these publishers are infantile chidren that need to be coddled when they do something wrong. Positively reinforcing a good thing is a good idea, and I'm sure developers appreciate it, but it is asbolutely optional. We NEED to complain about shit we don't like if we expect change. Simply saying "Nice work on the free DLC" isn't going to fix the game's lack of story mode or Galactic Conquest.
Your shilling looks more genuine with each passing comment, tbh.
12904
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:58:33 AM »
Good practices should be commended regardless of how many bad practices are present. It's the only way to reinforce positive change. Bad practices are more important than good practices because they are an inherently bigger issue. Companies don't have to do good things like free DLC, but they shouldn't take advantage of the consumer. There's a clear difference here. So you think that any major company/publisher/business online is even remotely receptive to whining anymore? Yes.They care about two one thing:
1) Profit margins FTFY And the only way to get our point across is via our wallets and complaining. If you are confronted with a thousand posts by random users bitching about anything and everything are you inclined to actually read that? If your job depends on the sale of your game, you bet your ass they're going to find out why people are upset. It doesn't take reading through 1000 posts to understand why people are outraged by things. When people are upset, they complain loudly. The positive one or the nine hundred and ninety nine shitposts? If those 999 shitposts are all complaining about the same thing, any normal person is obviously going to remember that majority's opinion. Whining at EA won't make a blind bit of difference at this point, they are trying to improve some of their practices and people could at least give them credit for it. I am giving them credit for. See? "Good job on the free DLC, EA." .. "Now fuck off with these shitty business practices." And I'm not whining at EA. I'm trying to "convert" (not the proper word but w/e) the people here to see the way I do. It's just like when I was trying to make people understand why the Street Fighter character's oversexualisation was wrong. Or if it's not metal gear enough, then why bother complaining about a company you don't care for at all? Literally what? Just because it's not Metal Gear, I don't care about it? However true that may be (there is very little truth to it), that's irrelevant. Just because an issue doesn't affect me doesn't mean I shouldn't apose it. And for what it's worth, I don't consider EA to be the worst company in America, or even the worst AAA publisher. At least they're doing free DLC. Activision wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole. Again, your shilling for EA -- genuine or not -- is clouding your judgement here. The idea that "Well, they're doing good stuff too, so... free pass." is toxic.
12905
« on: October 13, 2015, 07:15:05 AM »
I get that EA is unpopular but people could at least cut them some slack for the good things they do rather than just shitting all over them like they are the worst company in America. Uhh. No. Shitty practices should be criticised regardless of how many good practices are present. It's the only way we'll get Real Change tm. Can't help but feel that you're slightly biased, Psy.
12906
« on: October 13, 2015, 07:11:19 AM »
Skimmed over this thread, and regarding the forge issue:
Even if it's a small problem it still is one and deserves to be adressed and pointed out. If nobody complains of course developers and publishers assume there's nothing to complain about. And if there are no complaints over a course of time it may become the norm.
343 (as well as anyone else), even though they're doing everything else right shut up Assassin11whatever, should be criticised for these practices. I mean 343 seems to listen to its fans, so if there are enough(?) people pointing out the problem it may as well actually affect how these things are handled at 343 in the future.
Of course, again, voting with money would work best, but,... I don't think people won't buy Halo 5 because forge releases late.
(Slightly Offtopic) I mean I don't preorder out of principle; even though I know that the thing I want (Binding Of Isaac:Afterbirth) is going to be good, since there's a trustworthy developer behind it (AND that there's a 20% discount for preordering).
I like you.
12907
« on: October 13, 2015, 07:08:43 AM »
At least Peace Walker had some level of significance in the overall plot of the Snakes. MGSV is probably the least important MGS game to date (in that you can not play it and you won't be lost in the others.)
V may as well be filler for all it accomplished, but PW really has no need to exist. The end of Snake Eater sets up every motive needed to result in the later games happening, Naked snake begins his decent into becoming Big Boss and all the technical details about the patriots and foxhound and LET and all the rest fit in with this timeline. PW is just snake chasing robots that are never refereed to anywhere, building a base and army that isn't refereed to anywhere else but V (which doesn't count since that's the point of V), and killing the boss again.
I love PW but it's pointless, V was meant to justify it's existence but it never did.
The whole point of PW was to correct PO, though.
12908
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:54:02 AM »
controls, sound effects, audio processing, original soundtrack, licensed soundtrack, modeling, texturing, lighting, menus, text, subtitles, weapon stats, weapon balance, currency mechanics, boss fights, complex AI behavior, AI pathfinding, staff member stats, stealth mechanics, physics, animations, HUD, third-person camera, first-person camera, general voice acting, mission structure, among others.
story is not "50% of the game Story utilises almost all of those. The game is bad. No one is more disappointed by this than me.
12909
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:37:53 AM »
MW2's Scar-H Iron Sights were GOAT.
Destiny's Suros Regime has amazing sights.
12910
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:36:32 AM »
It's a complete reversal from MGS4. They're on opposite sides of the spectrum.
One is gameplay heavy with no story (while what is there is shit)
One is story heavy (while what is there is shit) with no gameplay
12911
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:20:26 AM »
>story being bad makes a bad game
No.
In a story-based franchise? Yes. 50% of the game being bad is still a bad game.
12912
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:17:24 AM »
Inb4 Prehistoric and Big Boss
12913
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:14:34 AM »
I agree.
I mean, I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Kojima couldn't make a better game with 7 years, $80M, and the most powerful engine in the industry, he's either a) incompetent, or b) terrible at management, in which case he should return to directing instead of producing.
12914
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:12:00 AM »
On the internet, it's solely to better myself intellectually. I always hope I'm wrong so I can... y'know, not be wrong.
In real life, I don't really know anyone with intellectual value. So I don't really discuss much with anyone.
12915
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:09:10 AM »
Boogie made that point a long time ago. I don't disagree with him.
12916
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:08:00 AM »
People are getting wound up over a YouTuber
Not really. We've moved on from that topic.
12917
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:07:40 AM »
ITT: prehistoric shills for an idiot Not shilling for anyone considering I've made multiple complaints myself. and complains at people who buy things they like
People liked Destiny's DLC and that was so obviously unethical. Why am I not allowed to criticise Halo? Oh wait. Y'all are fucking fanboys that can't look at shit objectively.
12918
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:57:16 AM »
Way more than a few assets. Saturn for example looks way different and again. Saturn was never revealed IIRC. When they showed Vestian Outpost in the reveal it likely served and entirely different purpose. Conjecture. It's less of a stretch to say it didn't serve an entirely different purpose. Now. As I was saying about DLC. You're not getting what I'm saying. I am. But what you're saying is stupid. If they start working on DLC before launch. It wasn't supposed to be part of the game. By all means squeeze as much in as you can. If they're working on DLC before launch, they can squeeze it in. Why would you wait until your game launches to make new content? No one is "waiting" -- they're finishing their fucking game. But when you're done you don't sit on your butt for a month working on patches t fix bugs. There's a fucking difference between developing content once your game goes gold and working on DLC months beforehand to the point where a Season's Pass can be announced. I thought you were smarter than this but I guess not.
12919
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:50:02 AM »
It isn't always necessary. But it's almost always of paramount importance.
12920
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:15:53 AM »
Of course. Up until that point, I would be immortal.
12921
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:14:51 AM »
Save MCC first was pretty funny though.
12922
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:13:36 AM »
Content developed before launch doesn't mean cut content. It is if it's not included in the game on launch day. If the developers planned to include it, and it's not in the game, it's cut. And at a certain point you can't really add anymore to a game. You have to stop and send it off to be finished. Yeah, when the game is fucking finished. AIt's obvious they reworked it, or as you said. Reimagined it. But they didn't cut it t sell to you. They sure did. It was meant to be included in the base game. If you wanna like Destiny, that's fine. But don't put out your argument like you're some "enlightened" industry insider. Like go look at the Vestian Outpost in that reveal video. Completely different. Same thing as The Citadel. Completely changed after the HoW update.
I'm sure it took them 6 months to change a few assets and walkways. And Prehistoric. Maybe you should quit being paranoid and take off the tin foil. LMAO How am I being paranoid? Cynical? Pessimistic? Negative? Sure. But paranoid? Fuck no. And these developers have given me NO good reason to think otherwise.
12923
« on: October 12, 2015, 11:23:11 PM »
Gotcha.
12924
« on: October 12, 2015, 11:19:54 PM »
The only Season pass I've ever considered buying is the one for the Witcher 3, and that's actually because I wanted to support to the devs for a game I really love
I've just decided to buy the first DLC for now though >.>
It's not downloading for some reason though ;_____;
I thought TW3's DLC was free?
12925
« on: October 12, 2015, 11:13:32 PM »
At least Peace Walker had some level of significance in the overall plot of the Snakes. MGSV is probably the least important MGS game to date (in that you can not play it and you won't be lost in the others.)
12926
« on: October 12, 2015, 11:11:46 PM »
Neither of those indicate "sperg".
They're stupid, to be sure. But not "spergy".
12927
« on: October 12, 2015, 11:09:00 PM »
It just doesn't make sense for anyone to continue to feign shock when these companies announce season passes. No one was shocked, though. I'll admit, the price point did surprise me -- but I'm not well-versed in the status quo for a SP price-point. That's why I made the thread, because I was shocked they priced it at $50.
12928
« on: October 12, 2015, 11:00:26 PM »
Woah dude. Content was most certainly cut from Destiny and then reworked into DLC. Shit from as far as The Taken King was there before release. You could see Saturn, the Citadel and the Vestian Outpost in the development videos, playable a year before release, Kings Watch and Seraphim Vault were accessible in the Alpha. The Dreadnaught was in some of the earliest concept art. And let's not forget about Old Chicago. Something tells me we will be seeing that sooner or later too. He's a corporate shill that doesn't want to feel guilty for enjoying Destiny. You're not going to get through to him
12929
« on: October 12, 2015, 10:58:26 PM »
If you don't want to pay more for a game than you did more than ten years ago, companies need to start ensuring a return on investment in other ways. I'd rather just pay for what the game is worth. If Battlefront has enough quality content to justify a $110 price point, I would gladly pay that much for it. (Actually I probably wouldn't because I'm not the biggest fan of Star Wars but whatever, I'm making a point.) The insulting thing, to me, is that this content is likely done and overpriced. Is it too much to ask for some common fucking decency between publishers and consumers?
12930
« on: October 12, 2015, 10:52:29 PM »
Or better yet delay the game to ship it with a working Forge mode so he can still make a 40 minute long sermon about how the delay makes 343 an incompitent team and that because a couple of pixels on the inside a random forge piece are discolored that it means Halo 5 is dead and 343 have destroyed Halo because of it. I don't care about Halo -- that alone makes me public enemy number to you fanboys. If 343i delayed the game, I would seemingly have nothing to complain about given that I approve of everything else they're doing. This is literally the first time I've talked about anything Halo in weeks.
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