I wish I knew what this picture implied.

But yeah, I didn't get to read the article on mobile for some reason when I commented initially.

Oh wait, nevermind.

spew some pseudo knowledge (septagon should learn when to do that) on the issue.

Pseudo-knowledge? It's better than not saying anything at all.

It's actual a huge problem I have with this site. If you make a thread saying "Can someone help me understand the feminism issue?" No one wants to help.

But if I made a thread titled, "Feminism is the true god" or some shit, you can bet your ass Mordo would be on that shit like a fly on shit.

See what I mean? Someone like me cannot do what he sets out to do (learn) on this site unless I take a definitive stance on things, because people only feel inclined to "prove me wrong" when I try to do the same.

It's off topic but I needed to be said.

/rant

Quote from: Avant le Présent on October 24, 2015, 01:38:15 PM

Gotcha.

I don't think you want ALL people to stop having kids. Just some people.

Yeah...

I have mental list really, raging from the cast of Jersey Shore to the Middle East. lol

Well, your intentions are different from Verb and I. We want kids to stop being born 'cuz it's wrong, you want them to stop being born because their parents are annoying..
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So it's not really the same but I definitely understand the thought behind it lol

I hope you didn't text her in English, Sean. That's no going to end well for anyone except us as you turn into the Canadian version of RomanGladiator.

eggsalad. We debate it all the time;  neither of us budges much though, heh. Guess it's just one of those topics

I did not see eggsalad coming.

But that's good.

Treudau won't help the situation

Hm...

>liberal leader
>bleeding heart
>higher moral and ethical standards
>removing military force from a brutal war we're not going to win on our own

Yeah, things sure are looking down for our soldiers.

Canada... You guys have an army?

Still though.

Canadian military has some of the best special forces on the planet.

But yeah, everything else is lacklustre and the government treats 'em like shit.

tbf, rationalities that work against it have existed since before the bible,

And to be fair, none of them are any good.

And the Bible is likely not the first instance of the "reality is shit" meme.

and imo it's kinda edgy, and i feel free to make that judgement of it

That's fine. That's usually people's only response to the philosophy. "Lmao edgy kids" or whatever.

Really, Class?

If they're predetermined to commit crimes, then everybody else is predetermined to stop them.

Of course. I don't think anyone is in defense of "Just do you, criminal". Well, I'm not.

I'm just wondering how ethical our current system is, I guess.

Yeah, fundamentally, we might all just be predictable sacks of chemical reactions, but it doesn't seem like it. It feels like we're in control of our actions, so we might as well act accordingly.

An interesting take.

Is it their fault? Yes, and no. I like to lean towards no because empathy I guess. But in the context of their system . . . they do as they are designed to, and in that sense it is entirely their fault.

Yeah, it's definitely not as cut-and-dry as I normally like things to be.

It may not be "their fault" in the sense of a free agent making a bad decision, but a human as a system is capable of rationality and judgement without having free will. Law is based on that fact and has no need for free will as a concept. Law is natural just as human behavior is.

Sure, a human is capable of rationality, but not the same rationality that everyone else possesses.

For example, a man with a starving family could rationally decide that the end justifies the means for stealing a loaf of bread.

Or, in a more extreme sense, that someone deserves to die.

Clearly these people don't operate on the same level of rationality that we do, but again, that isn't their fault. They may have mental deficiencies or genetic predispositions. 

Philosophy is scary.

I like you.

Hm...