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Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.
« on: November 30, 2015, 06:05:47 PM »
God-damn, Door, get online and reply to my initial post.
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Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 06:05:47 PM »
God-damn, Door, get online and reply to my initial post.
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Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 06:04:04 PM »If you didn't want a conversation then why even reply to me? Why are you even posting in the serious forum? Because you said something outlandish and I wanted to point it out; because I'm looking for a serious reason to believe in a god. 11703
Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 05:54:51 PM »Long story short, he's a vegan and anti-natalist. Pretty much. But I'm not going to turn this into a "vegan/anti-natalist" thread. He can either acknowledge that I find both things wrong and argue from that mindset, or he can stop. I'm not going to push my ideas where they aren't welcomed. 11704
Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 05:53:12 PM »Religion is simply a means of controlling people's minds so that they act in a specific way. So 'God' doesn't exist? Because if he does, then 'religion' is more than just 'a means to control people'. Quote Ideally, they are controlled to become moral people that support their community and love their family. Sure, but based on your statements above, you don't believe 'God' exists, and that would mean 'religion' is arbitrarily deciding what is 'good' the same way an atheist is. Again, if 'God' does exist, then religion is more than a tool to control people. Quote You cannot disprove that anymore than you can disprove conversations, that doesn't even make sense. What am I supposed to be 'disproving' here? Quote Furthermore you can have a religion without believing in supernatural god, for most political views they act similarly to religion but substitute a man for god. I just don't see the point of 'religion' without a deity. It's just... if you concede that religion can exist without a god, then these 'religions' are just as arbitrary as an atheist's sense of morality. If you can act morally without a god, why wouldn't you just do that...? Seems like a ton of work for nothing. Quote I am not at all sure what you mean by: Sure. Eating animals is wrong and having kids are objectively wrong things to do. I haven't seen a single religion acknowledge or preach this. 11705
Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 05:42:07 PM »I can hardly have a discussion if you're not going to voice you thoughts. I'm not trying to have a conversation with someone who starts their statements with "Atheism is just like communism, replacing "god" with science and being arrogant and ignorant all at once. Sorry, I'm not sorry. Quote And even if an atheist went out of their way to define morality in a way that wasn't logically equivalent to christian morality... "Christian morality" is an oxymoron. Taking the religious texts as they were intended -- that is, literally -- demonstrates the barbaric values and principles that the Jews were accustomed to. If you're referring to "modern" Christian morality, it is so watered-down from what it was meant to be that it's essentially a secular viewpoint with a god at the top saying "yeah, do good things", to which, people (seemingly arbitrarily) decide what is "good" and "bad" based on what society says. If this is your attempt at trying to convert me, you're doing a poor job. 11706
Gaming / Re: Companies that make shit games but make good trailers ITT« on: November 30, 2015, 05:33:39 PM »Aw, 2 is usually the one that gets rimmed when people talk about the series Probably, but I don't really enjoy games all that much. 11707
Gaming / Re: Companies that make shit games but make good trailers ITT« on: November 30, 2015, 05:31:26 PM »Mass Effect 2 had good trailers AND was a damn good game. Dunno if you played that though. I didn't care for either, to be honest. 11708
Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 05:30:40 PM »That's dependent on you definition of morality. Nah. 11709
Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 05:29:04 PM »
I'm not an atheist because "science disproves religion" or whatever (even though it does). I'm an atheist because every deity I've encountered is just as immoral as its followers -- and any being that claims to be all-powerful, all-knowing, would recognise that eating animals or reproducing is wrong.
I don't believe God exists because there is no evidence, and I'm not a follower of religion because they're all similarly immoral. 11710
Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 05:25:00 PM »A tool to make people arrogant, ignorant, and immoral. ![]() Quote Atheism tells people that there is no absolute standard that you should hold yourself to... Except morality is objective whether you're an atheist or theist. 11711
The Flood / Re: Who would play you in a movie?« on: November 30, 2015, 05:16:40 PM »
Actually, I changed my mind. I think Jensen Ackles could convincingly play me.
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The Flood / Re: Who would play you in a movie?« on: November 30, 2015, 05:15:11 PM »Uh, Dane Dehaan? That's how I picture you to this day. 11713
The Flood / Re: Who would play you in a movie?« on: November 30, 2015, 05:13:07 PM »
Ozymandias from Watchmen.
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Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 05:09:58 PM »I'd like to remind everyone that atheism is one of communism's most effective tools; you're free to dance that dance but don't ever forget who's playing the tune. What. 11715
The Flood / Re: TOP FIVE BANDS GO!« on: November 30, 2015, 05:08:19 PM »
Nine Inch Nails
Starsailor Woodkid David Bowie King Crimson 11716
Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 04:48:35 PM »I disagree with both you and Verb that anti-natalism is either of those things. That's a discussion for a different day. 11717
Gaming / Re: ITT: Post the worst enemies from any videogame.« on: November 30, 2015, 04:44:57 PM »
The Watchers or whatever from Halo 4.
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Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 04:41:59 PM »
Wasn't Winy taking the exact opposite position against anti-natalism in Anarchy a few days ago?
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Gaming / Re: Companies that make shit games but make good trailers ITT« on: November 30, 2015, 04:40:46 PM »
But on-topic: literally every developer ever. Most of them make cool trailers but shit games. Some of them make cool trailers and cool games, but it's very rare.
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Gaming / Re: Companies that make shit games but make good trailers ITT« on: November 30, 2015, 04:39:52 PM »
MGSV is one of the best, if not, the best game of this generation. I haven't played TW3 yet, though.
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Serious / Re: Developments- I am a theist.« on: November 30, 2015, 04:12:38 PM »
I'd like to hear your thoughts on how you reconcile some of the logical and moral inconsistencies. Things like evolution, the big bang, free will, the nature of god, etc.
I have been searching for awhile now, too. [Though admittedly, for different reasons than you.] The biggest hurdles for me, if I was to convert, wouldn't necessarily be the "evidence" (I could see myself believing something about the world without evidence), but the general morality and realism of the Bible. For example, what do you think of hell? Who goes there, and for what? What happens there? Personally, I don't think the "afterlife", as a concept, really works well with a logically and morally just God, depending on how you answer the above questions. And if it did work well, I couldn't help but feel most of it was simply the "interpretation of the reader" and not actual canon-based, which is something you apparently loathe about Protestantism. [Also, the fact that heaven didn't really exist as a concept until the Greek and Roman influence took hold of the religion doesn't really give it any credence.) What about free will? Does it exist? If not, then how are we truly in control of our faith? I'd really like to believe, myself, but I just don't see a way that I could possibly reconcile a few of my current philosophies (which I consider to be correct) with that of the Christian faith. But my worldview isn't that different from that of your generic Christian (for example, I believe in objective morality, I don't think free will exists, I'm against drugs, I think people are born "sinful" i.e., shitty or evil, etc.) If anyone else wants to chime in here with some helpful discussion, that would be great. 11722
The Flood / Re: Anyone else tired of cinematic shared universes?« on: November 29, 2015, 06:16:25 PM »
And Star Wars isn't a cinematic universe, it's a universe. Unlike Marvel, that is just cinematic, they have comics and video games to accompany them.
And Godzilla is just a marketing stunt. 11723
The Flood / Re: Anyone else tired of cinematic shared universes?« on: November 29, 2015, 06:15:10 PM »You mean Marvel, DC, Star Wars (yup, there will be tie in movies), Godzilla and more coming. Only one of those is a cinematic universe. The other ones aren't -- yet. So, again, it isn't a valid complaint to be "sick of them", when you've only experienced one. 11724
The Flood / Re: Anyone else tired of cinematic shared universes?« on: November 29, 2015, 03:58:49 PM »
There's only one cinematic universe, so your complaint isn't really valid.
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The Flood / Re: Holy shit a dumb cunt actually did this« on: November 28, 2015, 10:05:38 PM »
It's not that big of a deal. There are worse things happening to more animals every second of the day for less justified reasons.
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The Flood / Re: how do you feel about tattoos« on: November 28, 2015, 04:17:42 PM »smoking doesn't look cool, though Looks cool in Tarantino movies. Looks cool in Metal Gear. 11728
The Flood / Re: how do you feel about tattoos« on: November 28, 2015, 04:10:23 PM »
I probably won't ever get one, but having cool tattoos is cool. Like Liquid Snake's tattoo.
It's kinda like smoking -- it looks cool but I probably won't ever do it. 11729
The Flood / Re: Everyone in Sep7agon fights to the death.« on: November 28, 2015, 12:45:23 PM »I'm actually just curious as to why I'd be on the list at all. I don't even have a level of fighting expertise man. I'm physically strong. But I've avoided 90% of all the fights in my life so far by using my head and talking. Not throwing somebody around to the next province. Your persona online makes you seem like you have survival experience, living in secluded areas and such. That's all we can base it on. 11730
The Flood / Re: Daily reminder that there is nothing wrong with Yoda using a Lightsaber...« on: November 28, 2015, 10:51:30 AM »
I wish they made the prequels not-canon when they got rid of the EU.
Or at least pulled a Portable Ops and arbitrarily decided what was canon and what wasn't. |